also refresh my memory, who's the confirmed town?
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NOC Bigvivor Mafia Game Thread Day 5
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the first group is the first half of the alphabet, the second is the second half of the alphabet.
There is no randomization here so could be a game mechanic rather than a role
a town thing?
not necessarily
in fact I think it's more likely to be a scum role than not but that's just my opinion
Here Nuxl
Okay something really irks me about your read on me and I want to get this straight. Why exactly do you agree with other people's read on me? They are (as far as I can tell) all exclusively based on one post (#1752). Have I done anything else for you to get this read?
OK first of all I agree with everything everyone's said in relation to the wall post I made. It was a bad post and I was in a mindset of only thinking of one scum bc I was specifically trying to work out the kill (which one person performs) but ofc that's dumb af bc if there's more than one scum in that group, they would discuss the kill with each other LOL
Also yes the post involved a lot of thread narratives and discussions up until that point that I was kind of taking at face value. It was a bad stream of consciousness and I could tell it was dumb after I posted it and so went to bed bc clearly my brain was functioning at limited capacity :shrug:
I didn't get to sleep until much later (we love sleep disorders :heart_eyes:) so I'm still at limited capacity probably
It doesn't help that the entire tribe feels p towny to me still. I was running scenarios where Caff is scum but that doesn't extend to a scumread of him; I think it's a situation to continue considering and testing as the game progresses. M2H is still the scummiest of D2's lil war but they've had a good D3 and atp I struggle to see why Sam is so wrong so much unless he thinks me and Texas are 3p of some description. Current bias is toward that being TvTvTvT which is a point I kinda got to toward EoD2 and that's only become more enticing today in my mind
I'll read back now but there's something else I want to look at after more so I might rush through a bit lol
Also yes the post involved a lot of thread narratives and discussions up until that point that I was kind of taking at face value. It was a bad stream of consciousness and I could tell it was dumb after I posted it and so went to bed bc clearly my brain was functioning at limited capacity :shrug:
I didn't get to sleep until much later (we love sleep disorders :heart_eyes:) so I'm still at limited capacity probably
It doesn't help that the entire tribe feels p towny to me still. I was running scenarios where Caff is scum but that doesn't extend to a scumread of him; I think it's a situation to continue considering and testing as the game progresses. M2H is still the scummiest of D2's lil war but they've had a good D3 and atp I struggle to see why Sam is so wrong so much unless he thinks me and Texas are 3p of some description. Current bias is toward that being TvTvTvT which is a point I kinda got to toward EoD2 and that's only become more enticing today in my mind
I'll read back now but there's something else I want to look at after more so I might rush through a bit lol
IDR what I said last time so
I still think Eli is town
I still townlean Caff but he's set himself up in such a way that we can make good connection reads later that implicate him scum
In their minds they basically confirmed each other's alignment so I bought into it but having slept on it lbr Drookez is a gift giver that gave Clouds something that implicates Drookez as town, Clouds could have been literally anything
Granted Clouds' role feels extremely town if we trust Dyo that that's his entire role PM. Scum roles tend to have a good bit of role compression, and so having a mafia with a troll/for-fun ability and then this kill list prio thing that no one understands and we know can be town from Hydro's flip just doesn't feel particularly realistic. Ofc this happened after my wall post but atp considering that a town duo for a while feels acceptable
Me taking Sam's rationale to an unreasonable extreme :shrug:Nuxl said:
I mean it was basically process of elimination Zach/Laurel performs the nk but that's me tring everyone too much. More than anything I wanted to see people's reaction to pressure being put on Zach for the first(?) time but no one really reacted to it and pushed it under the rug. Compound that with the p frequent tring of Zach for absolutely 0 legitimate reason and I'm becoming more confident this slot is scum
Texas Cloverleaf come back fren we're half way through the day and you were v useful and cool yesterday :(i will wait for Texas to make posts before I comment more on his slot
It's really freakin weird that you post agreeing with Sam's post that was echoing my initial reaction (which Sam himself said is an echo (though Sam framed it better)) like 10 posts before you vote me without any explanation js js
You overplaying the sificon debacle before we knew the extent of it did throw me off a little but there have been multiple Srs and Trs on you so I have been watching closely. Back then I thought you were the most suspicious but currently I sus Celever more for reasons already explained and am just watching you to see if I can get anything to really shift one way or the other.
NVM 3 posts after 2 of which were his own I thought I was being nice saying 10 LOOOOOL
IDR how much maf experience you have but the job of active posters is to pressure less active posters to get information used to solve in late-game. That's what I'm doing and its town mindset sorry :shrug:
I was reading through the thread and replying live as I read, Sam made a great point but then clouds actually conceded after Sam posted rather than debating further, to me that eliminated the whole “us vs them” thing and opened everything back up for me.
Sams reaction holds more weight to me because you have a lot of “initial reactions” that flip flop between people constantly. I wouldn’t be surprised if every read on every side of the game was Celever OG lmao
Granted M2H piggybacks on it and this strikes me as odd bc it's once again irrational to think 3 players can have the same conftown ability
If anything it feels extremely 3p but you or Eli said Tommy hates multifac so?? I could believe they throw one of these abilities on scum considering we have a rolecop but we know it's not Hydro and tbh prob isn't Clouds if Dyo posted Clouds' full role
As an inexperienced mafia player I’m willing to wait and see if anyone had a read on your defensiveness and how you express it : )
OK this made me chuckle a bit
But all my reactions are still my own reactions. I get how it can come off as flip-floppy bc I'm responding to individual posts at a time to try and get as much value out of each post as possible, but it's bad to conflate that with reads. My reads haven't been hugely consistent either, but much more so. Pushing a post for pressure doesn't mean I sr it, it means it's a scummy post
Town players usually have quite a few scummy posts bc townies are trying to function with less information. This is loosely what people mean when they say a player seems "coached", it means they're too perfect
IDK, I'm struggling to read Caff I think that's p evident LOL. He's slowly been depreciating in town cred as the game has moved on but I need to read back at some point and figure out if that's legitimate or just a vibe. I get that the TvTvTvT with Caff stoking the flames is also somewhat tinfoily and it's more so a headcanon atm that I think is important to reiterate bc that quartet is still a somewhat likely circle to start dying and if they start flipping town I think based on connections Caff should be inspected v closely
Yeah I was it was a badly (barely?) thought out post LOLNuxl said:
Imma be real, probably bc M2H provided reasoning and Caff didn't so my brain didn't latch onto Caff piggybacking on it. Like NGL I forgot that that happenedNuxl said:
I agreed w/ the meta that Texas was displaying, but only voted him after he suddenly popped in the thread to refute an accusation out of nowhere which I saw as very sus.