NOC Bigvivor Mafia Game Thread Day 5

UncleSam said:
Sorry I’ve been busy all weekend I will be at home in like two hours but we don’t have a ton of time left to make a real vote today

I’ve been trying to follow the thread while out and about as much as I can but I will say I strongly support a Dyo vote today. His role makes no sense as town and his targeting Hal claim not only makes no sense but also gives him cover if he got tracked or watched while killing Hal.

I’m going to dig into the prior posts more when I’m at a computer and see if I can validate this but I’m pretty sure this is mechanically 100% the correct vote today.

I wanted to get this post out there ASAP so people would have more time to respond, if you don’t like this vote then please state the following:
A. Why you don’t like it, explicitly
B. Who you would like to push instead given how far into the day we already are

We need to get our shit in gear this is embarrassing

Unvote
Vote Dyo

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Also I was in roomtour then went for a smoke I’ll do this after but uh

Why was this post ignored it’s good
 
Texas Cloverleaf said:
i think i missed the dyo conversation, was it just because he claimed rolecop? cause i've seen town rolecops and wouldn't vote him just for that
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Dyo was initially voted (by me) due to nka which a few active townies disreputed. Then he was voted due to claiming rolecop for p much no reason. Spiderz is on him due to disbelief that he actually targeted Hal N1, thinking a scumbud told him not to claim his n1 result bc it's useful to town. Caff I'm unsure why. Sam seems to be gamebotting a vote on him.

TBH he's mainly being voted due to his claimed N1 Hal target but I think the Hal target makes sense after he explained himself

Meh Vote Dave
 
UncleSam said:
Sorry I’ve been busy all weekend I will be at home in like two hours but we don’t have a ton of time left to make a real vote today

I’ve been trying to follow the thread while out and about as much as I can but I will say I strongly support a Dyo vote today. His role makes no sense as town and his targeting Hal claim not only makes no sense but also gives him cover if he got tracked or watched while killing Hal.

I’m going to dig into the prior posts more when I’m at a computer and see if I can validate this but I’m pretty sure this is mechanically 100% the correct vote today.

I wanted to get this post out there ASAP so people would have more time to respond, if you don’t like this vote then please state the following:
A. Why you don’t like it, explicitly
B. Who you would like to push instead given how far into the day we already are

We need to get our shit in gear this is embarrassing

Unvote
Vote Dyo

- friendly hydra
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TBH I just talked myself out of voting Dyo in my last post, I don't think the rationale is particularly tight. Being a gamebot I see merit in it which I feel like you are here, but I'm an emotional player so uh

I'd like to push Dave instead bc Dave is gonna be a vote candidate for the rest of the game and we might as well nix that now

Unless there is mking in this game bc Dave prob gets mked soon atp
 
There are interactions in this game I need to think about:

Texas vs M2H:
Why is M2H so hard on Texas? Why does M2H seem to disregard the Haruno flip and continue to push this? Does this mean M2H is scum? Tex seems to think so. Why?

Drookez, Clouds, Dyo:
Some role interactions. What could it mean? Is Dyo town rolecop? Scum rolecop? If Dyo is scum rolecop, does this make Clouds town? Could Clouds have HH's 2nd ability and still be scum? That Hal claim is weird. Believable from a new player but also the claim as a whole feels fundamentally wrong. What about Drookez? Would Drookez scum fruit vendor => Clouds town? Is any part of Drookez' claim true? Maybe they're just saying words...

UncleSam:
Tbh I don't remember where I'm at with UncleSam, I've SL'd them all game. Their posts seem very tinfoily from what I recall.

Celever:
Is he buddying me?

M2H:
Was he buddying me?

Laurel:
Did he just try buddying me?
 
The tasks I have to do are:

Find out what the fuck I think about M2H

Compare Celever's posts from this game to the game I supposedly SR'd them in and see if I can spot the same thing again. Knowing me I probably didn't explicitly say what it was I found sus so good job past me you fucking moron.

Read all of Sam's posts, see where he might be coming from (because rn I don't and it seems to me every time he posts he's doing something convenient for scum).

Try to logic out the rolecop claim from Dyo. It feels like such a weird time to just claim that.
 
actually if one of dyos fellow scum asked him to fake claim his n1 results, does it make sense for them to have chosen hal for that knowing that itd be heavily called into question? would it be more likely that theyd organize some sort of fake claim of dyo visiting another scum and making up some sort of role that would better confirm him, or is that like too fantastical? im just confused at why an experienced player would let dyo make such a suspicious claim.
 
also is there any sort of read on dyos kinda resigned attitude? at the start of day 2 he mentioned being fine with being voted so that discussion didnt centralize around him the whole day, and today he claimed rolecop basically knowing people would sr him either way? idk what it all means but im just sort of observing this attitude pattern
 
Psypsypsypsypsythe said:
actually if one of dyos fellow scum asked him to fake claim his n1 results, does it make sense for them to have chosen hal for that knowing that itd be heavily called into question? would it be more likely that theyd organize some sort of fake claim of dyo visiting another scum and making up some sort of role that would better confirm him, or is that like too fantastical? im just confused at why an experienced player would let dyo make such a suspicious claim.
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Hal is the safe play in case Dyo isn't sussed for it, the other scum dies, and then Dyo is proven wrong. Dyo would have to claim their legit abilities which may not be possible depending on what scum abilities are

.....with that said if it was orchestrated, I think they always claim Haruno instead? Like Haruno target n1. Because Haruno claimed at like start of D2 or something so there would be 0 reason for Dyo to reveal himself at that point. Interesting angle tbh
 
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