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NOC Bigvivor Mafia Game Thread Day 5

Nuxl said:
dyo is either someone who genuinely just felt pressured by early votes today and got inspired by haruno to claim or the scumplan was for them to 1000 iq the fuck out of the thread by claiming rolecop and saying he did hal, while i don’t think the actions make sense rly the reasoning and their posts aren’t like bad
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This is exactly what I said… maybe people will listen if it’s you
 
Psypsypsypsypsythe said:
I literally did not say this and drookez has been suspicious since day 2 when his opportunistic dyo push and subsequent vanishing act happened. I didnt feel solid about his claim so this didnt "materialize from nothing". I'm more than fine dropping it though since, like I said, I didnt feel certain about it anyway
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do you still think drookez is scummy, bc i still think so lol just that idt people are voting drookez and it’d just lead to a stagnant eod
 
Nuxl said:
sorry i don’t think this sentence made sense
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laurel's posts have not given a ton to suggest he's town, except for certain tonal things, ex. his reads approach and how hard he leans into what he believes is true as opposed to making blanket statements

so i'm worried the vote on laurel is to steer off of dyo or someone else and get a misflip that town can be sheeped into flipping
 
Clouds said:
laurel's posts have not given a ton to suggest he's town, except for certain tonal things, ex. his reads approach and how hard he leans into what he believes is true as opposed to making blanket statements

so i'm worried the vote on laurel is to steer off of dyo or someone else and get a misflip that town can be sheeped into flipping
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im sorry what you don’t think laurel is towny but you think people are voting him because he’s town and a ML??
 
Celever said:
NGL it's even weirder than this bc for the second time Ryo has followed me while crediting the push to someone else (in this case Spiderz)

He didn't acc say he thinks I'm town he said that if Vizh is scum he thinks I'm town, and also distanced himself from the Vizh scumread by saying "lots of people scumread you you know"

That entire post is kind of absurd on reflection

I would vote Ryo with you today he's done this multiple times IIRC
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What are you talking about lol. If Vizh flips scum I think you’re town. That’s essentially what I said.

Also like I said earlier every push in this thread was probably originated from you, even if it was a Celever OG I liked what Spiderz said/ how he phrased it and that’s why I responded to Spiderz. It has nothing to do with credit.

As for “distancing myself” from Vizh scumread, how does “a lot of people scumread you” distance anything? It brings attention to the scumread + is me telling vizh that if he *is* town bringing up my name at that point of the thread is interesting
 
Nuxl said:
im sorry what you don’t think laurel is towny but you think people are voting him because he’s town and a ML??
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less "i think this" & more recognizing the possibility now that it's picking up steam. i don't lean either town or mafia on laurel right now

also do you really think drookez is scum considering everything i mentioned? i don't rule out the possibility either, but i hard lean towards his role not being a scum role, if it winds up being scum then w/e but you tunneling this is confusing to me if you feel fine about me being town
 
RyoDio said:
What are you talking about lol. If Vizh flips scum I think you’re town. That’s essentially what I said.

Also like I said earlier every push in this thread was probably originated from you, even if it was a Celever OG I liked what Spiderz said/ how he phrased it and that’s why I responded to Spiderz. It has nothing to do with credit.

As for “distancing myself” from Vizh scumread, how does “a lot of people scumread you” distance anything? It brings attention to the scumread + is me telling vizh that if he *is* town bringing up my name at that point of the thread is interesting
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I literally made a wall bringing Laurel into discussion, we discussed before how my individual responses to posts are flip-floppy bc I'm getting maximum value out of them but that's completely different to a case. That wasn't reactionary it was literally my idea
RyoDio said:
Breaking: Celever changes his mind again. Now Ryo being scum is his idea too
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No Laurel brought this to attention and I think I agree, that's also pretty clear
 
Celever said:
Man OK

Dyo: Gives us valid connection reads that are useful, but rolecop is a somewhat dangerous role if they are town for mafia and this could lure a nk. Otherwise we can get some nice info but that's if--

I was gonna try and lay out vote target thoughts but hi why? I might have to hop on this too?

Do you tr Ryo?
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You were just voting laurel lmao, then laurel said he sr’d me and now you’re agreeing with laurel and telling him you’re willing to vote me out and then now you’re saying Ryo-Laurel is potential scumpair ??
 
Clouds said:
less "i think this" & more recognizing the possibility now that it's picking up steam. i don't lean either town or mafia on laurel right now

also do you really think drookez is scum considering everything i mentioned? i don't rule out the possibility either, but i hard lean towards his role not being a scum role, if it winds up being scum then w/e but you tunneling this is confusing to me if you feel fine about me being town
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i just don’t understand what you’re saying, don’t shade me for being confused. like you’re neutral on laurel but what does this say about dyo being the leading wagon etc, since he’s the only one under substantial pressure before the vc

also it’s role madness so i wouldn’t put too much stock in it
 
Celever said:
TBH I do. There have been a couple times this game that he’s provided conclusions while not taking responsibility for them, serving more as a commentator on thread state than anything else. It’s p standoffish and a way to provide little new content writing it off as a paradigm

It’s weird af that he pushed me earlier today and Laurel now, the interim being me pushing Laurel. If Laurel’s town then that’s a clear attempt to crossfire as Laurel said
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This is you speaking about yourself fr
 
ngl I initially thought ryo was scum but celever pushing that makes me less certain as I also feel like hes more scummy. hes quick to be defensive and it feels as if he sort of wants to make things go in a certain direction that isnt helpful to town. on the other hand, I think him saying my posts should be reevaluated feels more towny so idk
 
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