NOC Bigvivor Mafia Game Thread Day 5

M2H said:
what are the odds that scum!dyo either

a.) is scum, got jailkept, was the triggerman last night, and is banking on forcing the jailkeeper to claim here.
or
b.) fakeclaimed role cop, has some alternative way of knowing clouds role and/or is scum with clouds and knows his role/colluded with clouds to fake his role that way.
or
c.) is scum and wanted to role cop somebody besides me to gain info, as they would know I'm town and PR hence my claim. It might have been a kill on me / role cop on somebody else type situation and they just assumed I'd die so claiming 'no results' would be valid??
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dyo mentioning the cop almost feels like a forced reminder. like, maybe this is a stretch, but i wouldn't be shocked if mafia chat discussed the importance of mentioning the night cop results. anyways i'm gonna vote Dyo again, there is definitely scum intent behind pushing away from this vote at this point, whether or not it's to protect a teammate or to keep a generally sr'd player in the game so heat remains on him

also nuxl/realiti's pushes have made continuously less sense to me with each day (apart from realiti's celever reasoning although i'm mixed on celever himself), and i find it hard to believe one of the people realiti is sr'ing the hardest here is.. dle of all people, who has been almost entirely afk. realiti/dyo being scum together would provide a possible explanation for realiti's quick d1 wagon vote on dyo with whydon if he was trying to clear the possibility of them being teammates

at this point i feel best about drookez, m2h, texas, and maybe even dle based on tone. i am shifty w/ celever and still don't have a firm tr or sr on him. who exactly would've voted him at eod yesterday? it feels like he's getting a lot more attention at the start of the cycle now
 
RyoDio said:
Also before this is forgotten, my role was busted tbh. The fact that I got wiped makes me think that someone that can view roles might be involved on the scum-side. I don’t think I was the most guaranteed town in the world so it would be random to take a shot on me over like Nuxl for ex
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This is a thought I had when you claimed, in that there is the possibility that Dyo rolecopped you N1, had a blocker partner target you N2, and then had their role wiper partner target you N3. All of these are traditionally scum roles

On the other hand it’s not absurd that there would be a role cop on both factions, and I still don’t think Dyo openly claims at SoD3 if that’s what happened. Issue is, I don’t know how else maf would know your role

Also yeah Ryo has been v towny today lol
 
Celever said:
This is a thought I had when you claimed, in that there is the possibility that Dyo rolecopped you N1, had a blocker partner target you N2, and then had their role wiper partner target you N3. All of these are traditionally scum roles

On the other hand it’s not absurd that there would be a role cop on both factions, and I still don’t think Dyo openly claims at SoD3 if that’s what happened. Issue is, I don’t know how else maf would know your role

Also yeah Ryo has been v towny today lol
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Do you think mafia might be able to guess who you targeted if they did see your role?
Celever said:
This is a thought I had when you claimed, in that there is the possibility that Dyo rolecopped you N1, had a blocker partner target you N2, and then had their role wiper partner target you N3. All of these are traditionally scum roles

On the other hand it’s not absurd that there would be a role cop on both factions, and I still don’t think Dyo openly claims at SoD3 if that’s what happened. Issue is, I don’t know how else maf would know your role

Also yeah Ryo has been v towny today lol
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if this is what happened btw, the role wiper is prob in tribe a hence the blocker choosing to target you in tribe b together
 
So let me get this straight

There's a random EOD push onto Laurel to save Dyo and Laurel flips town

And that group isn't just instantly assumed to contain most / all of the scum team??

Laurel voters: Laurel (9): RyoDio, Nuxl (2), Texas Cloverleaf, Dyo, CaffeineBoost, Psypsypsypsypsythe, Celever, Da Letter El

So 8 total voters. Of these, I believe Dyo, Caffine, Celever, and DLE are the potential killers from Group A.

Dyo and DLE are pretty strongly linked at this point and DLE should really know better than to think that a fking role cop claim of all roles is 'likely town' or whatever bs he is spewing in his hard defense of Dyo. Pretty sure this is just a scum team pair though DLE hasn't posted enough for me to lock in that portion of the read yet - maybe he's just forgotten the difference between a role cop and any other type of cop. Pretty sure he's astute enough even when iDLE to tell the difference though, especially since Dyo literally just claimed to fail his role AGAIN.

Also side note Dyo literally failed his role claiming he targeted M2H...on a night where we know the mafia killer failed. After claiming he targeted Hal the night Hal died. Just saying.

Texas technically has the Haruno flip working in his favor but I have HATED his play virtually every cycle this game. Maybe I have to begrudgingly admit that scum + town twins seems extremely outlandish but he has just been on so many bad pushes that I'm starting to seriously wonder whether the mafia kill on Haruno wasn't just to kill a confirmed villager but was to give scum!Texas towncred.

Celever has basically been following Texas around like a loyal dog, very safe to assume that if Texas is scum then Celever is as well (and honestly even in the world where Texas is town and just has been playing awfully Celever could still be scum sheeping experienced town's bad reads). I liked his posts yesterday but the Laurel push was godawful, he wagoned on it for no reason, and I haven't been a big fan of his play today either. The only thing really working in his favor is that DLE dislikes him lol.

Caffine I have felt was off for most of these game days but it's been hard to put my finger on it. I actually like that it seems like he is butting heads with Celever today, makes me think maybe there is only one scum in that pair and if so I'm tilting towards that scum being Celever currently.

Psypsypsy I'm pretty sure is just confused town, if he is scum and playing up the clueless new player card then it's just wp by him, I don't ever want to be voting Psy today / probably ever based on the vibes alone.

Nuxl has slid by under the radar SO MUCH every single day he always seems to be directing discussion but not picking fights - really starting to not like his play / pushes at all. I have to admit that the lack of a NK suggests that either he or M2H (imo the most likely kill targets) dodged a kill, which is a point in his favor I guess. Idk, my prior townlean on him is more of a neutral due to the Laurel push but his reasoning was at least a little better formulated than others'.

Ryodio I do not recall doing anything at all this entire game except active lurking and troll posting. Pretty sure this is just a slot that gets lumped in with Dyo and DLE but less strongly.

Vote Dyo we should've done this yesterday. Nobody has formulated a strong reply (outside of DLE generically saying the push is 'bad' whatever that means). Also the fact that M2H is the only person somewhat pushing this after yesterday just solidifies my TR on him and reaffirms that this is the correct place to be today.

After Dyo flips scum we have so much info on DLE / RyoDio / honestly the rest of the Laurel voters that I really do think getting Dyo here breaks the game wide open for us. I may not be super active so I can't constantly harass all of you but I'm not going to just forget about this push so you better kill me mafia to make me stfu

- Friendly Hydra
 
UncleSam said:
So let me get this straight

There's a random EOD push onto Laurel to save Dyo and Laurel flips town

And that group isn't just instantly assumed to contain most / all of the scum team??

Laurel voters: Laurel (9): RyoDio, Nuxl (2), Texas Cloverleaf, Dyo, CaffeineBoost, Psypsypsypsypsythe, Celever, Da Letter El

So 8 total voters. Of these, I believe Dyo, Caffine, Celever, and DLE are the potential killers from Group A.

Dyo and DLE are pretty strongly linked at this point and DLE should really know better than to think that a fking role cop claim of all roles is 'likely town' or whatever bs he is spewing in his hard defense of Dyo. Pretty sure this is just a scum team pair though DLE hasn't posted enough for me to lock in that portion of the read yet - maybe he's just forgotten the difference between a role cop and any other type of cop. Pretty sure he's astute enough even when iDLE to tell the difference though, especially since Dyo literally just claimed to fail his role AGAIN.

Also side note Dyo literally failed his role claiming he targeted M2H...on a night where we know the mafia killer failed. After claiming he targeted Hal the night Hal died. Just saying.

Texas technically has the Haruno flip working in his favor but I have HATED his play virtually every cycle this game. Maybe I have to begrudgingly admit that scum + town twins seems extremely outlandish but he has just been on so many bad pushes that I'm starting to seriously wonder whether the mafia kill on Haruno wasn't just to kill a confirmed villager but was to give scum!Texas towncred.

Celever has basically been following Texas around like a loyal dog, very safe to assume that if Texas is scum then Celever is as well (and honestly even in the world where Texas is town and just has been playing awfully Celever could still be scum sheeping experienced town's bad reads). I liked his posts yesterday but the Laurel push was godawful, he wagoned on it for no reason, and I haven't been a big fan of his play today either. The only thing really working in his favor is that DLE dislikes him lol.

Caffine I have felt was off for most of these game days but it's been hard to put my finger on it. I actually like that it seems like he is butting heads with Celever today, makes me think maybe there is only one scum in that pair and if so I'm tilting towards that scum being Celever currently.

Psypsypsy I'm pretty sure is just confused town, if he is scum and playing up the clueless new player card then it's just wp by him, I don't ever want to be voting Psy today / probably ever based on the vibes alone.

Nuxl has slid by under the radar SO MUCH every single day he always seems to be directing discussion but not picking fights - really starting to not like his play / pushes at all. I have to admit that the lack of a NK suggests that either he or M2H (imo the most likely kill targets) dodged a kill, which is a point in his favor I guess. Idk, my prior townlean on him is more of a neutral due to the Laurel push but his reasoning was at least a little better formulated than others'.

Ryodio I do not recall doing anything at all this entire game except active lurking and troll posting. Pretty sure this is just a slot that gets lumped in with Dyo and DLE but less strongly.

Vote Dyo we should've done this yesterday. Nobody has formulated a strong reply (outside of DLE generically saying the push is 'bad' whatever that means). Also the fact that M2H is the only person somewhat pushing this after yesterday just solidifies my TR on him and reaffirms that this is the correct place to be today.

After Dyo flips scum we have so much info on DLE / RyoDio / honestly the rest of the Laurel voters that I really do think getting Dyo here breaks the game wide open for us. I may not be super active so I can't constantly harass all of you but I'm not going to just forget about this push so you better kill me mafia to make me stfu

- Friendly Hydra
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This is the worst post I have ever read
 
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