NOC Bigvivor Mafia Game Thread Day 5

Ok hi Ryo you’re an icon but some of those posts were flirting with personal attack lmao

Granted I think the points you made about Whydon were correct

am I insane for having caught up and just, not seeing much to respond to?
 
Ok hi Ryo you’re an icon but some of those posts were flirting with personal attack lmao

Granted I think the points you made about Whydon were correct

am I insane for having caught up and just, not seeing much to respond to?
True.
Update: I don’t mean or genuinely believe anything I said about whydon

Update x2: I don’t regret anything I said about whydon

That sums it up
 
Here's where I'm at.
1. Don't like the current wagons.
2. Whydon's group of four lacks Dave, which to me seems arbitrary because idk how you can possibly eliminate him as scum.
3. Ryo's sheeping of Whydon after he's said "I don't necessarily SR you but [insert thing here] is something to consider" a few times about a few people iirc is making me paranoid.

Conclusion: staying on Dave. I'll reevaluate if/when it becomes obvious Dave's not gonna be voted.
 
Here's where I'm at.
1. Don't like the current wagons.
2. Whydon's group of four lacks Dave, which to me seems arbitrary because idk how you can possibly eliminate him as scum.
3. Ryo's sheeping of Whydon after he's said "I don't necessarily SR you but [insert thing here] is something to consider" a few times about a few people iirc is making me paranoid.

Conclusion: staying on Dave. I'll reevaluate if/when it becomes obvious Dave's not gonna be voted.
what is scummy about dave again
 
Oh yeah there was one thing I wanted to say in the catch up but forgot by the end of the thread and just remembered

Voting DLE for the stated reasons lacks the slightest bit of logic. It’s taking the fact that DLE voted Laurel completely out of context. The scum move 4 mins to deadline is to not vote Laurel, and sit your pretty self down in the not voting category or on a dead wagon (such as the wagon on me). It’s level 1 to go “well Laurel vote must be scum!” but it’s level -10 to group DLE in with that premise if you acc take yesterdays EoD in context

Not saying DLE is town but, judging by the reasoning on this wagon that’s picking up, certainly not saying he’s scum either. Do better.
 
CaffeineBoost it’s a bit of a forced narrative to continue including me into a group of scumreads when you don’t actually have any evidence/supporting reasons up to this point for literally anything

in fact you’re the only one trying to do this right now when others are actively leaning DLE/Dyo
 
My reasoning is not that I've caught dave doing scummy things, it's that I'm more confident in everyone else in group A being town.
The only things I can really point out is his lack of any real content and his tendency to appear after a vote's been placed on him. The latter can be chalked up to coincidence.
dave said:
ok i won’t do this whole only comes out of the woodwork when called out thing again LMAO

i spent the past hour catching up on the past 15 pages it’s not my fault you voted me completely out of the blue again
 
Also tinfoil man is saying that whoever keeps pushing us toward this tribe a discussion is scum trying to lower town likelihood of hitting scum bc there’s acc much more scum in tribe b

Like let’s say scum did have the option of where the kill landed, they would always choose the tribe with fewer scum in it

Pair that with just not seeing tribe a as particularly scummy on average and definitely seeing tribe b as scummy on average and can we JUST shoot tribe b we know there’s scum in that too

M2H even said it’s 7/7 shot of hitting scum in his mind

Time to make a coffee
 
Also tinfoil man is saying that whoever keeps pushing us toward this tribe a discussion is scum trying to lower town likelihood of hitting scum bc there’s acc much more scum in tribe b

Like let’s say scum did have the option of where the kill landed, they would always choose the tribe with fewer scum in it

Pair that with just not seeing tribe a as particularly scummy on average and definitely seeing tribe b as scummy on average and can we JUST shoot tribe b we know there’s scum in that too

M2H even said it’s 7/7 shot of hitting scum in his mind

Time to make a coffee
if you could push someone from group b, who would it b?
 
CaffeineBoost it’s a bit of a forced narrative to continue including me into a group of scumreads when you don’t actually have any evidence/supporting reasons up to this point for literally anything

in fact you’re the only one trying to do this right now when others are actively leaning DLE/Dyo
You're misunderstanding. I am leaning DLE/Dyo as town. I don't have the same lean on you. This does not necessarily mean I scumread you, this means that I don't townread you and therefore you haven't been removed from my pool of votes. My scumlean on you is purely POE. I have a vote pool of 2 and it's yourself and Celever. If I'm the only one who thinks that you're a viable vote today then so be it.

That having been said, I'm starting to think that Celever is a better vote than you.

Vote: Celever
 
Here's where I'm at.
1. Don't like the current wagons.
2. Whydon's group of four lacks Dave, which to me seems arbitrary because idk how you can possibly eliminate him as scum.
3. Ryo's sheeping of Whydon after he's said "I don't necessarily SR you but [insert thing here] is something to consider" a few times about a few people iirc is making me paranoid.

Conclusion: staying on Dave. I'll reevaluate if/when it becomes obvious Dave's not gonna be voted.
Wasn't arbitrary, it was just the people who voted Laurel and were in Group A. though tbh I didn't even consider non-voters and they could probably be thrown in there as well. Though we know there had to have been at least one mafia that voted with the mislynch so at least in my mind it's just easier to narrow it down to those who did vote Laurel versus those who just didn't vote at all
 
wait what does this mean
i said like 4 or 5 pages ago that in the same 45 mins-to-an-hour this morning i was catching up on this thread, caffeineboost voted me on the most recent page, which appeared to duplicate a scenario the other day where i skimmed, saw someone voted me, and defended myself. however on that day, d2 i think, it was several pages prior to the most recent page so it was clear i had skimmed up to that point and decided to defend my wagon

either way that’s my last post on the subject so here’s where i said it the first time:
caught up

i find myself absolutely and completely unable to follow UncleSam and DLE’s logic, so not sure where to put them in my dichotomy but i do lean toward town!sam and scum!DLE. the latter’s last few posts regarding dyo and the whole laurel wagon thing have been a bit unhinged to me.

i agree with Celever and everyone else that believes we should augment the Dyo wagon efforts, because that wagon got redirected last night in a haste that was shady and didn’t make sense (THIS part of Sam’s posts i do follow and +1)

if Sam is wrong for a third day we can always countervote x

Drookez is only sus to me because they double down on their old posts without reinforcing with new information, also just end it with “this should be enough to know i’m town” which could go either way, not exactly concrete, substantiated evidence

other thoughts are brewing but that’s what i’m most pulled toward rn
ok i won’t do this whole only comes out of the woodwork when called out thing again LMAO

i spent the past hour catching up on the past 15 pages it’s not my fault you voted me completely out of the blue again
also responding to a single vote =/= responding to a wagon
 
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