NOC Bigvivor Mafia Game Thread Day 5

Oh ok so shadowpea is back there. GL catching up haha

Just messaged Tommy on disc, he said he can't confirm or deny whether someone who was wiped would have that revealed in their flip, because it depends on the wiper role

Current thesis is Zach got wiped bc he was still largely townread in terms of the collective conscience
this feels like a decent theory. I'm not sure what big brain reason any living town would have to hide their being reset since scum will already know
 
celever is this you "taking a backseat"
I'm still trying to LOL

Thing is I just, did not enjoy the direction of the thread. Like the whole point of me taking a backseat is increasing the interconnectivity of the cast so that as more flips happen, we have more hardline connections to read into

The thread was being pushed to only focussing on <half the cast bc of the Tribe A thing and that v much defeats the purpose, not to mention I think was just rlly bad for scumhunting

So I've redirected the wind behind the sail a bit and I'll backseat again more lol
 
I'm still trying to LOL

Thing is I just, did not enjoy the direction of the thread. Like the whole point of me taking a backseat is increasing the interconnectivity of the cast so that as more flips happen, we have more hardline connections to read into

The thread was being pushed to only focussing on <half the cast bc of the Tribe A thing and that v much defeats the purpose, not to mention I think was just rlly bad for scumhunting

So I've redirected the wind behind the sail a bit and I'll backseat again more lol
I'm trying to get Hitman Trilogy to work on my damn PC that has the adequate specs for it so idk what's happening

If that fails I'll finally get round to starting Yakuza 0

the only way for me to take a backseat is distract myself more than this game distracts me wbk
 
I'm trying to get Hitman Trilogy to work on my damn PC that has the adequate specs for it so idk what's happening

If that fails I'll finally get round to starting Yakuza 0

the only way for me to take a backseat is distract myself more than this game distracts me wbk
wait omg I love yakuza 0 I hope you have fun

anyway I'm working in a few minutes so I cant say much more but I'd like to just see people share their thoughts on the group a vs group b dynamic and who they think a good vote from each tribe would be. both groups need to be scrutinized and I feel like atm there are much less opinions on group b people
 
it’s legit midterms week for me lmfao and i have 17 pages to catch up on period
basically after i pushed celever the game turned into a bunch of shit, then whydon pointed out that everyone is tossing out random names and then now we're back to celever talking again since he "didn't enjoy the direction of the thread" and making posts like this:
Interesting, why do you think shadowpea is a third party specifically?

Not saying you’re wrong — I think, gun to my head you ask me what he is then I agree he’s 3p atp — but I’m interested in your case!
 
Trying to read what I can today from my phone at work, I think that the Caffeine / Celever interactions feels legit and I strongly doubt there are two scum in there. Warming back up to Celever a bit.

Caffeine question - if I’m your biggest SL right now then you can’t just drop that with no explanation and no attempt to pressure. If you don’t like my attempts to solve you have to say why (preferably with examples), you gotta go back and iso my posts and see where I’ve been pushing to see if you buy where I’m coming from.

Side note I have selfish interests in making the above request because it’s been extremely frustrating to me that so few people have been willing to entertain my reads or leans this game.

The Group A vs. Group B dynamic is getting a bit overplayed imo, yes we can probably PoE group A more easily than group B but we know there is scum in both (and it’d be surprising if there wasn’t), so I don’t think we should be this fixated on it.

I am concerned with the lack of attention paid to the Laurel wagon, however. It’s the only contested misvote we know about and yet people’s roles on it and relationships to it really haven’t been parsed out very well today.

Finally, DLE’s reasoning regarding Dyo makes no sense. The literal entire point of saying his targeting is weird is in relation to trackers / watchers, and DLE just...forgets this point when initially responding? Then says ignore tracker and also he doesn’t care about Watcher? Really really strange reasoning by him that makes no sense.

Last point can people please actually read my posts. It feels like the only people to actually read anything I’ve pushed is Ryo and M2H.

I think it’s interesting Celever wants to shift focus to Group B once he starts getting pressured but I also don’t think he’s wrong, we need to stay focused on the whole field here. I still think Dyo is always the right vote here due to the terrible plays he has made, his general lack of helpfulness in the thread, and the sheer amount of information we gain from his flip. However, I don’t think it is necessarily right to try to PoE it all the way down in group A - if one group or the other has fewer potential mafia then that is a consideration but we need to stay focused on who is the highest percentage vote each individual day.

M2H you’re my strongest TR right now (although I like Psy and Ryo as well) and I want to know where you stand regarding Celever v Caffeine as well as on Dave / Dyo / Spiderz / Vizh (why has everyone forgotten about Vizh?).

Also Drookez is a scum lean from me for now he kinda popped in when mentioned then left when it was no longer necessary to post to satisfy anybody.

- friendly hydra
 
Also Drookez is a scum lean from me for now he kinda popped in when mentioned then left when it was no longer necessary to post to satisfy anybody.

- friendly hydra
drookez claiming ability motivate (give someone an extra use of ability) is pretty towny imo, it is less likely to be a mafia role. also, he motivated clouds n2 who was a modposter, if he were scum he would have given it to a member on his team with a more useful role imo
 
also i would like to clarify that even though i am flaming celever a lot this game i have nothing against him personally but I think he should be flipped eventually and in a game with 15p+ i find that there is no other way to do this other than yell until people finally respond (i think not a single person has really even referenced my case though which I find a bit sad)
 
drookez claiming ability motivate (give someone an extra use of ability) is pretty towny imo, it is less likely to be a mafia role. also, he motivated clouds n2 who was a modposter, if he were scum he would have given it to a member on his team with a more useful role imo
Ngl I totally missed this claim, that’s what happens when I’m scrolling through on a phone I guess.

Less of a SR on him then though I wouldn’t clear him for that by a long shot (just means Clouds is connected to him as well as to Dyo).

- friendly hydra
 
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