Trying to read what I can today from my phone at work, I think that the Caffeine / Celever interactions feels legit and I strongly doubt there are two scum in there. Warming back up to Celever a bit.
Caffeine question - if I’m your biggest SL right now then you can’t just drop that with no explanation and no attempt to pressure. If you don’t like my attempts to solve you have to say why (preferably with examples), you gotta go back and iso my posts and see where I’ve been pushing to see if you buy where I’m coming from.
Side note I have selfish interests in making the above request because it’s been extremely frustrating to me that so few people have been willing to entertain my reads or leans this game.
The Group A vs. Group B dynamic is getting a bit overplayed imo, yes we can probably PoE group A more easily than group B but we know there is scum in both (and it’d be surprising if there wasn’t), so I don’t think we should be this fixated on it.
I am concerned with the lack of attention paid to the Laurel wagon, however. It’s the only contested misvote we know about and yet people’s roles on it and relationships to it really haven’t been parsed out very well today.
Finally, DLE’s reasoning regarding Dyo makes no sense. The literal entire point of saying his targeting is weird is in relation to trackers / watchers, and DLE just...forgets this point when initially responding? Then says ignore tracker and also he doesn’t care about Watcher? Really really strange reasoning by him that makes no sense.
Last point can people please actually read my posts. It feels like the only people to actually read anything I’ve pushed is Ryo and M2H.
I think it’s interesting Celever wants to shift focus to Group B once he starts getting pressured but I also don’t think he’s wrong, we need to stay focused on the whole field here. I still think Dyo is always the right vote here due to the terrible plays he has made, his general lack of helpfulness in the thread, and the sheer amount of information we gain from his flip. However, I don’t think it is necessarily right to try to PoE it all the way down in group A - if one group or the other has fewer potential mafia then that is a consideration but we need to stay focused on who is the highest percentage vote each individual day.
M2H you’re my strongest TR right now (although I like Psy and Ryo as well) and I want to know where you stand regarding Celever v Caffeine as well as on Dave / Dyo / Spiderz / Vizh (why has everyone forgotten about Vizh?).
Also Drookez is a scum lean from me for now he kinda popped in when mentioned then left when it was no longer necessary to post to satisfy anybody.
- friendly hydra