NOC Bigvivor Mafia Game Thread Day 5

Celever said:
0% useful

it's also 0% useful after a certain point anyway

I'm consulting with Clouds before giving more away it depends how much I buy into a theory and IDK how much but asking here basically leaks my role anyway
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OK I read that as public LOL

Uhh like it's useful once and never again but that usefulness increases the later in the game it is

So realiti forcing it to happen earlier is anti-town anyway
 
Celever said:
Dyo hi fren please continue to inspect me tonight

I understand that people targeted with your inspect have an apparently high mortality rate but
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Dyo On the off chance nobody suggests another investigation, I'm going to suggest investigating someone in group B, the separatists. I can't say I'm particularly fussy as to which one, but the info we have on group A seem to me to be enough for a PoE and the info in group B is... lacking. I also don't think someone regarded as suspicious by a decent chunk of the playerbase should really be allowed to call the shots.

But hey what do I know.
 
CaffeineBoost said:
Dyo On the off chance nobody suggests another investigation, I'm going to suggest investigating someone in group B, the separatists. I can't say I'm particularly fussy as to which one, but the info we have on group A seem to me to be enough for a PoE and the info in group B is... lacking. I also don't think someone regarded as suspicious by a decent chunk of the playerbase should really be allowed to call the shots.

But hey what do I know.
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"Don't clear the mislynch bait because they're regarded as scummy"

interesting take
 
UncleSam said:
Not for anything but couldn’t most people say this.

I don’t think you’re a good vote because you’re active and contributing but I don’t really buy this particular line of reasoning.

- friendly hydra
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oh they totally could, I'm not the only person who gets cleared if rolecopped in this game LOL

but I'm the biggest mislynch bait and if I'm cleared realiti will have to start reading other people's posts so it's a net benefit
 
UncleSam said:
Who do you want to vote? Because I’ve provided a few good options but people don’t seem to want to rally around them

Why do you not like my Dave / drookez reads?

- friendly hydra
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Drookez is a defaultable indie option that I'm fine with, but p fundamentally we should try and shoot mafia today more than an indie

Dave is also an extreme compromise vote and I just don't really buy into him having a high chance of flipping scum tbh. It's certainly possible and he's far from a hard townread, but a reasonably strong townlean. But I townleaned him early D1 when no one else did, sorta pushed him due to inactivity and lack of opportunity cost, and now that he's posted (a couple times) today it just does not read scum to me. He's not being particularly useful but my gut still says it's ml

I just think the scum in Tribe A is/are active players and the inactive scum is/are in Tribe B which has been why I've been trying to push focus on Tribe B all day. I also enjoy Clouds' case on Eli and I think you said you're partial to it too?
 
Celever said:
Drookez is a defaultable indie option that I'm fine with, but p fundamentally we should try and shoot mafia today more than an indie

Dave is also an extreme compromise vote and I just don't really buy into him having a high chance of flipping scum tbh. It's certainly possible and he's far from a hard townread, but a reasonably strong townlean. But I townleaned him early D1 when no one else did, sorta pushed him due to inactivity and lack of opportunity cost, and now that he's posted (a couple times) today it just does not read scum to me. He's not being particularly useful but my gut still says it's ml

I just think the scum in Tribe A is/are active players and the inactive scum is/are in Tribe B which has been why I've been trying to push focus on Tribe B all day. I also enjoy Clouds' case on Eli and I think you said you're partial to it too?
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This looks like I'm piggybacking on Clouds but Eli is correct that I've been shading him in the latter half of the day, if I push a vote no one will do it tho
 
Celever said:
Drookez is a defaultable indie option that I'm fine with, but p fundamentally we should try and shoot mafia today more than an indie

Dave is also an extreme compromise vote and I just don't really buy into him having a high chance of flipping scum tbh. It's certainly possible and he's far from a hard townread, but a reasonably strong townlean. But I townleaned him early D1 when no one else did, sorta pushed him due to inactivity and lack of opportunity cost, and now that he's posted (a couple times) today it just does not read scum to me. He's not being particularly useful but my gut still says it's ml

I just think the scum in Tribe A is/are active players and the inactive scum is/are in Tribe B which has been why I've been trying to push focus on Tribe B all day. I also enjoy Clouds' case on Eli and I think you said you're partial to it too?
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Ya I wanna hear the case on Eli (Nuxl for everybody else), I’ve been a bit sus of him for a while.

I guess that my take on your redirection from Group A is that it is both self-serving and too generic for my taste. In theory you are absolutely correct we need to focus on everybody, but in practice I’m hearing you say that people in general should focus on others but aren’t providing much in the way of pressure or analysis yourself. I do think it’s better to shoot in the smaller PoE today as a general rule of thumb but if a strong case gets built up elsewhere I’m not dead set on it

- friendly hydra
 
UncleSam said:
Ya I wanna hear the case on Eli (Nuxl for everybody else), I’ve been a bit sus of him for a while.

I guess that my take on your redirection from Group A is that it is both self-serving and too generic for my taste. In theory you are absolutely correct we need to focus on everybody, but in practice I’m hearing you say that people in general should focus on others but aren’t providing much in the way of pressure or analysis yourself. I do think it’s better to shoot in the smaller PoE today as a general rule of thumb but if a strong case gets built up elsewhere I’m not dead set on it

- friendly hydra
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Oh that's entirely valid that it's self-serving, but if it helps cool townie Psypsypsypsypsythe agrees and he's in Tribe B :psynervous:

Legit if I pushed anyone then people would do the opposite so it's just not on the table for me to build a case on people in Tribe B. I did push Ryo EoD3 to follow that thread and turns out he's v towny but today I haven't bc it would have got me voted in this town and then we're really behind >_>
 
Three hours to deadline and I’m off my lunch break now. I think we need to coalesce at this point around two options so we can have people make an EOD choice.

I don’t think Celever should be the shot here, he’s too responsive and active to randshoot here when we have a lot of unhelpful / idle people out there still (who btw have not gotten mod killed suspiciously, so they’re doing SOMETHING...). I always want to shoot between Dave and Drookez here because I’m pretty sure this is just mafia v wolf and I want to force the mafia to out themselves to save Dave and vote Drookez, but I’ll review when I’m back and do my part to help avoid a tie.

- friendly hydra
 
UncleSam said:
Three hours to deadline and I’m off my lunch break now. I think we need to coalesce at this point around two options so we can have people make an EOD choice.

I don’t think Celever should be the shot here, he’s too responsive and active to randshoot here when we have a lot of unhelpful / idle people out there still (who btw have not gotten mod killed suspiciously, so they’re doing SOMETHING...). I always want to shoot between Dave and Drookez here because I’m pretty sure this is just mafia v wolf and I want to force the mafia to out themselves to save Dave and vote Drookez, but I’ll review when I’m back and do my part to help avoid a tie.

- friendly hydra
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I mean why not at this point, my pref is prob Eli and I'll opportunistically jump on that if given the opportunity :U

Vote Dave

I want to test Sam's theory here
 
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