NOC Bigvivor Mafia Game Thread Day 5

Nuxl said:
have u thought about it's possible nobody claimed because scum doesn't want to tell people "well actually i was roleblocked i could've made the kill"

have you also thought about that i might be the only other TP and i was holding it in anyway, because i know tommy has done this in the past??

idk why you're convinced i'm "outed"
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Ah yes on all

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1 of the nights we hadn't had a kill by the time this conversation was taking place. D1 and D2 no reason not to claim, no?

I disregard the idea that you're a jailkeeper and second town doctor. That's role insanity, not role madness. You'd have us believe Tommy lets 2/3 town protective roles die in one nk or mislynch?
 
Celever said:
Ah yes on all

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1 of the nights we hadn't had a kill by the time this conversation was taking place. D1 and D2 no reason not to claim, no?

I disregard the idea that you're a jailkeeper and second town doctor. That's role insanity, not role madness. You'd have us believe Tommy lets 2/3 town protective roles die in one nk or mislynch?
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im genuinely confused on what you're pointing at, it was an hour to deadline and i was asking but yeah nobody else claimed so i thought i was on the right track

also MAYBE LOOK AT THE SETUP I POSTED LMAO
 
Nuxl said:
also "not to claim" what exaclty
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Not to claim that you were blocked. You were like oh mafia don't want to claim they were gunman and got blocked, but kills have been going through so on D1 and D2
Nuxl said:
im genuinely confused on what you're pointing at, it was an hour to deadline and i was asking but yeah nobody else claimed so i thought i was on the right track

also MAYBE LOOK AT THE SETUP I POSTED LMAO
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:shrug: this is a new game, obviously it's possible town has multiple protective roles.

In fact, I basically am a protective role. I'm a surefire extra day for town.

So town would need three. Four, if Drookez is town with his self-protect, though that's much more limited.

Also Ryo is a backup apparently, and backup is usually advised to inherit doc if they die early. Tommy would design with that in mind.
 
Celever said:
Not to claim that you were blocked. You were like oh mafia don't want to claim they were gunman and got blocked, but kills have been going through so on D1 and D2

:shrug: this is a new game, obviously it's possible town has multiple protective roles.

In fact, I basically am a protective role. I'm a surefire extra day for town.

So town would need three. Four, if Drookez is town with his self-protect, though that's much more limited.

Also Ryo is a backup apparently, and backup is usually advised to inherit doc if they die early. Tommy would design with that in mind.
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literally blocked specifically on d3 because that was relevant especially to my target and how i thought the night went why does this matter n1/n2

self prots doesn't necessarily mean it's "protective" ?_? we have literally established scum has a way to get through this
 
Nuxl said:
i am claiming jk only bro what
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Nuxl said:
have you also thought about that i might be the only other TP and i was holding it in anyway, because i know tommy has done this in the past??
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My interpretation of this was the only way it made sense to me is if you were claiming two protects at once LOL

We know you're JK, that's covered. So what does the above quote mean. If you're the only other protective role that's my entire point.
 
Nuxl said:
literally blocked specifically on d3 because that was relevant especially to my target and how i thought the night went why does this matter n1/n2

self prots doesn't necessarily mean it's "protective" ?_? we have literally established scum has a way to get through this
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You're forgetting an earlier discussion that wasn't one hour to deadline. Ryo and Dyo claimed no results under no pressure, and we freely encouraged anyone else to claim. We were verifying the validity of Dyo's "No Results." claim.

Pretty sure you were there
 
Celever said:
My interpretation of this was the only way it made sense to me is if you were claiming two protects at once LOL

We know you're JK, that's covered. So what does the above quote mean. If you're the only other protective role that's my entire point.
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i meant that because im jk and dle claimed doctor att there's no point to cc because tommy has given town more than one prot in the past
 
Celever said:
You're forgetting an earlier discussion that wasn't one hour to deadline. Ryo and Dyo claimed no results under no pressure, and we freely encouraged anyone else to claim. We were verifying the validity of Dyo's "No Results." claim.

Pretty sure you were there
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are you talking about the dyo no result and why i was confused he didnt say fail thing cuz i dont remember a push for everyone else to claim regardless nor why someone would atp

also like i still dont get it at the time w limited info there were multiple ways the nk hadn't been stopped, once doctor outed i had a theory but still didnt know if it was right so i waited until my claim at eod to push it
 
Duskfall98 Just in case it comes up earlier.
Hypothetically if Flare's role PM is identical to Amilda's, Amilda dies, then someone uses Amilda's role while Flare uses their inherited role. Then if they target the following people
Stolen amilda role: Person A
Flare: Persons B and C
If someone targets Person A, assuming there are no redirects or roleblocks, who are they on now? Same question for if someone targets Person B.
 
CaffeineBoost said:
Duskfall98 Just in case it comes up earlier.
Hypothetically if Flare's role PM is identical to Amilda's, Amilda dies, then someone uses Amilda's role while Flare uses their inherited role. Then if they target the following people
Stolen amilda role: Person A
Flare: Persons B and C
If someone targets Person A, assuming there are no redirects or roleblocks, who are they on now? Same question for if someone targets Person B.
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Alimdia rolling in his grave
 
Nuxl said:
are you talking about the dyo no result and why i was confused he didnt say fail thing cuz i dont remember a push for everyone else to claim regardless nor why someone would atp

also like i still dont get it at the time w limited info there were multiple ways the nk hadn't been stopped, once doctor outed i had a theory but still didnt know if it was right so i waited until my claim at eod to push it
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Ryo and Dyo had a fairly long conversation about it. Anyone else who had received the same result would have chimed in. Pretty sure I alluded to it being a good idea.

I honestly don't understand the second half of this post

What do you propose the second town protective ability would be? The options are jailkeeper, doctor, variations on doctor (most of which would be dead by now) and...?
 
Celever said:
Ryo and Dyo had a fairly long conversation about it. Anyone else who had received the same result would have chimed in. Pretty sure I alluded to it being a good idea.

I honestly don't understand the second half of this post

What do you propose the second town protective ability would be? The options are jailkeeper, doctor, variations on doctor (most of which would be dead by now) and...?
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again SPECIFICALLY ON N3 what, how is this still relevant to me and why you're voting me

im saying based on what i knew tommy has in the past put multiple ways to stop deaths by other players in the game. not necessarily self prots, because that's different and also unprovable. again this is why i don't think anything is particularly clearing or not. there was a claimed doctor. i didn't out because i knew based on what i read in the past it didnt make sense. then i was pressured to claim at deadline and outed my theory based on what people said.

it still doesn't explain why there was a no death on n3, but i was wrong about that - despite this i don't think i would kill dyo in any case because he was clearly mislynchable anyway after d2 ended regardless nor was being townread

i'm sure that scum would out the fact that they were roleblocked by some other method after i laid my theory suspecting someone who is confirmed town, which is particularly relevant for the events of deadline and not earlier where that info blockage doesn't matter right. you said you theorize you were blocked. maybe someone was blocked and didn't know, or was blocked and didn't want to out. that's not relative to "no result"
 
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