B is attempting to go two directions, C is just attempting to go one direction (albeit with another item, A also being redirected to the same spot). The action can converge with another action, however one action cannot be split into two so it must be blocked. This is mentioned in the op.
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NOC Bigvivor Mafia Game Thread Day 5
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B is attempting to go two directions, C is just attempting to go one direction (albeit with another item, A also being redirected to the same spot). The action can converge with another action, however one action cannot be split into two so it must be blocked. This is mentioned in the op.
Could this explanation be applied to *every* possible way you survive N4?
IDK wym
A is attempting to be redirected to B and C.
B is attempting to be redirected to A and C.
C is attempting to be redirected to A and B.
Well... Clouds is dead and you're still here. Do we have any explanation as to why? Can we even get an explanation if we assume Lovers does what you're assuming it does?
No it's not, you have one A and two Bs effectively for the purpose. You aren't creating a third hub in your scenario but a clone of the second hub.
I'm using shadowpea's claimed wording, the person who put us together. One of us "kills" the other one if one us dies.
The info Clouds and I were given is that if one of us dies so does the other. The wording is inconsistent, but shadowpea's is clearly correct.
yes i could not do this
Are you saying that stealing Alimildimildia's role and targeting Person A would only attempt to redirect them to the first target of Flare's newly inherited role?
i would rather not jump the gun on saying this since shadowpea couldve easily misphrased or changed the meaning through paraphrasing
I have already laid out the resolution, I don't really want to turn this into a big discussion in thread where I am talking too much. You can refer back to the mechanics I laid out and that's how it would resolve in your scenario.
His wording has to be correct because I'm alive. The wording Clouds and I were given was if one of us dies during this period, you both die which was clearly a simplification because I'm not dead.
Perhaps shadowpea lied too, but what Clouds and I were told wasn't wholly clear regardless.
Right the first sentence of that is bad but you get my point I was in a Hackmons Chaos Cup: Nightmare Edition tour I wasn't allowed to think.
Shadowpea's wording doesn't have to be correct, but it offers an explanation as to what happened that seems unreasonable to fake. The wording Clouds and I were given has been proven false, on the other hand.
as a hackmons player im wholly interested
it said for the next night and day phase so 99% sure it wore off long ago. dmed to make sure.
They happen from time to time in OM Mashups subroom. Scalemons, Camomons, Inverse at once.
Oh yeah it said that same period for me too. The debate is the fact that Clouds died last night and I didn't. Your wording states that Clouds would have attempted to kill me, which permits protection, whereas my wording was simply that if Clouds dies so do I, which doesn't permit protection. So your wording is correct and Tommy used simple wording in the night resolution, which is fine.
It just assuages Caff's (pretty tinfoily) theory that mafia has a doctor(???) and they used it on me to defend me from the lover kill. Neither Clouds nor I thought this could be protected against.
Actually this one is to determine if someone could kill Clouds and Dyo with the same stone.
You I cannot explain.
Unless I asked Shadowpea to check if doc on one lover kill on another protects the doc'd lover.
Which I might have. If I haven't, shadowpea do that. I have edited the quote to clarify what I mean.
I what
Cupid takes affect at the beginning of the next day and lasts for the following night. What does it have to do with Clouds and Dyo?
I was checking that. From the wording of the original claim I thought it could be from next day and night... though tbh re-reading makes me think this clarification was not needed.
Btw what do you think of tinfoil theory number one? The one where I say you're mechanically likely to be Strongman?
Do you agree? Because this would all be so so much easier if you did.
Hm, I suppose it’s feasible that if Eli did target Clouds then that prevented Clouds from killing me, using the same logic as a doc being able to prevent such a kill.
To be honest it’s weird to me that it’s registered as a kill ability in the first place and I haven’t seen this before, but that’s possible if we run with Eli’s “there are 2 roleblockers” theory which, with Psy’s claim, that is actually a “there are 3 roleblockers” theory. Because I was still blocked remember.
Don’t see how anything you said involves me personally being a strongman.
Then how did Haruno die N2? I doc'd them yet they're still rather dead.
It’s still unexplained and there could be a strongman, I was saying there’s no reasoning given for that strongman to be me
Also apparently there’s a fabled blocker that is silent if we believe Eli so maybe you were targeted by them, who knows
Who did you target last night again?
Here's the reasoning.
Well on N2 it would have to be one of Drookez, DLE, or yourself.
Let's stay on topic for now.