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SPOILERS! Scarlet & Violet Leaks Thread - Data/Mechanics
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I disagree. Ghosts have a ridiculously easy time nowadays. They don't fear trapping in any sense, they have strong moves that's only resisted by two types that are otherwise quite bad defensively while they themselves have some real solid resists. With Pursuit's removal they've just run amok in both Smogon's and official BSS/BSD/VGC metas.
I felt more sympathy for the Psychics that were caught in the crossfire, but ever since IoA and the fact that they started spamming Expanding Forces everywhere even my sympathy for them ran out.
Well good thing that (at least for now) that move has all but disappeared right? :P
You know, the fact that the new legendary quartet is dark type may have something to do with this...
Ghost probably wouldn't be as overpowered if it wasn't for the Normal type seeing almost zero high level play, on account of its ghost immunity being literally the only useful thing about it and there being very few normal types with high BST or generally useful attributes other than Arceus. A fundamental problem like Ghosts being overpowered doesn't seem like a problem best solved by one (1) move existing that deals with them.
No doubt, and my official headcanon is that it also led to Urshifu-SS.
Why do you want pokedex entry?
Lopunny's highest dmg normal move in it's lvl-up learnset is Headbutt. For TMs, the options are Mega Punch, Mega Kick, Giga Impact, Facade, and Retaliate.
Personally, I think Return/Frust were just fine. Normal types will never do super-effective damage with normal moves, so part of the trade off is that normal moves can/should do a bit more damage. Max base power for Return was like 102 I think? There's plenty of other moves within that dmg range, such as EQ, Heat Wave, Moonblast, Stone Edge, Sludge Wave, and the dozen or so signature Legendary moves at 100 BP. And, most of those have secondary effects while Return does not. Not to mention, there's Boomburst at 140, though access to Boomburst is limited. So having a reliable moderately high-power physical stab was just fine for Normals. Without it however.... well it speaks volumes that pretty much every mono-normal is stuck in ZU unless it has a specific niche. Or they're running Body Press instead, which everyone seemed to get access to?
Removing legacy movesets may honestly become necessary. Bank is going to shut down sooner rather than later, those servers aren’t going to stay up on breeding rejects alone.
Clearing legacy movesets now is actually an increase in accessibility for the future, since access to some moves essentially becomes impossible in cartridge beyond a limited number of already transferred Pokémon. As much as people like to pretend, Game Freak do know smogon is a thing, and do make changes in balance related to 6v6 singles.
Clearing legacy movesets now is actually an increase in accessibility for the future, since access to some moves essentially becomes impossible in cartridge beyond a limited number of already transferred Pokémon. As much as people like to pretend, Game Freak do know smogon is a thing, and do make changes in balance related to 6v6 singles.
Maybe Ursaluna can help change this? Or Farigiraf (much less likely, but it does seem to have potential as a support pokemon).
To get Kingambit you need leaders crest it's an item found on bisharp catch bisharps and some of them will have that item then use that bisharp to defeat 3 other bisharps after that level up the bisharp you will evolve it to Kingambit.
I like reading about lore of Pokemon I like... I think it's neat.
To get Kingambit you need leaders crest it's an item found on bisharp catch bisharps and some of them will have that item then use that bisharp to defeat 3 other bisharps after that level up the bisharp you will evolve it to Kingambit
I've been told they run off of the same servers that NS uses, so there really isn't any reason to shut them down right now. Though we do need to prep for that inevitability.
Is Ursaluna going to be that good, though? I mean, no doubt it's no slouch. But where people see a Guts STAB Facade coming off
slp32 Found it. It's this part on the map. All the way up to the Northwest corner of Paldea, it goes up to Glaseado, but I'm not sure it's part of it.
Speaking of which, I just found a map of Paldea with absolutely nothing on it on Google. Gonna repost it here if people need to reference a place or whatever.
Speaking of which, I just found a map of Paldea with absolutely nothing on it on Google. Gonna repost it here if people need to reference a place or whatever.
Another issue is that Normal doesn't counter Ghost because the type itself is straight up countered by it. I see Chansey brought up as an Aegislash counter here and there, but really, what is Chansey doing back to Aegislash outside of having more PP in the long game? Other Bulky Normals like Snorlax aren't don't much to Ghost either outside on non-STAB coverage moves.
No fucking way you’re naming your Pokémon after what I think you are. Please say it ain’t so
Dark/Flying/Rock is almost perfect coverage in terms of neutral hits funnily enough. And it gets stab in all 3. Gets walled by Bisharp (as well as Kingambit but this thing ain’t higher than UU LOL) and fairy/steel types though.
I'm really not sure why it matters, I mean Smogon doesn't even allow move tradebacks on RBY, and that makes way more sense to me than Chansey got wish in the New York Pokémon center in 2004 as an egg move and never again yet we're gonna pretend you definitely had one despite being 3 years old at the time.
Honestly I'd rather movement wipes each generation than Dex Cuts and, worse, move deletions,, but I guess God hates us.
Return/Frustration is 100% a casualty of the ability to share and download teams. IIRC it was a problem in gen 7 when they first tried it, where Return and Frustration would match the current trainer values, not the owner's, and thus said moves would never be at their full power. With the increased push for VGC in SwSh and the ease of sharing codes around, im not surprised its gone.
I do wish there was some substitute though...my poor Stoutland and Bewear want to relive the glory days...
I do wish there was some substitute though...my poor Stoutland and Bewear want to relive the glory days...
I'd rather have stuff like Pikachu being compatible with the Surf TM or Dragonite learning Extremespeed naturally, before having to deal with old events. Just give Chansey Wish and stop beating the bush.
Body Slam and Double Edge should be widespread. Not Mega Punch and Mega Kick, those 2 moves were already bad in Gen I.
Body Slam and Double Edge should be widespread. Not Mega Punch and Mega Kick, those 2 moves were already bad in Gen I.