Pet Mod Prevos For Everyone (Absol, Torkoal, Seviper)

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Prevos For Everyone​

In this Pet Mod, we are trying to change the LC metagame by creating new pre-evolutions to Pokémon that do not have prevos or evos currently. National Dex mons will be allowed.

Guidelines:

1. The Pokémon chosen to have pre-evolutions must not have pre-evolutions nor evolutions.
2. The pre-evolution needs to be made with balancing based on Little Cup. https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/lcing-a-brief-guide-to-the-mechanics-of-little-cup.3694689/ this link gives an introduction to LC EVing and stats.
3. The pre-evolution can't have a completely different typing from the evolution. Typing shouldn't differ too much. Types should be or removed (Bug-type Nymble and Bug/Dark-type Lokix ) or should stay the same. ( and ) Exceptions can be made, like how it happens on the Onix line, but it almost always happens like this.
4. Slates will be chosen until we reach a good amount of new LC mons.

Discord

Council:
Moretto
FP
guttrainer
Necrozmancer2

 

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Reserved

 

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Reserved 2

 

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Reserved 3

 

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Slate One

Aerodactyl is a potentially higher BST prevo that can punch some holes with DD and other moves (if they don't get removed)
Lapras has a more defensive type but its prevo can be repurposed to different roles
Pinsir is a scary offensive bug mon that can go wild with SD

 

[ViZar]

Pokémon: Patodactyl
Evolves Into: Aerodactyl (Evolves at Level 40 while knowing Ancient Power)
Stats: 40/65/45/40/55/80 (325)
Typing:

Abilities: Rock Head / Pressure / Unnerve (HA)

Removed Moves

Dual Wingbeat, Aerial Ace, Fly, Sky Attack, Sky Drop, Wing Attack

Hurricane, Air Cutter, Heat Wave, Twister, Razor Wind, Ominous Wind

Defog, Roost, Tailwind

Sample Sets

Bulky Dragon Dance
Patodactyl @ Eviolite
Ability: Pressure
Level: 5
Tera Type: Rock
EVs: 36 HP / 236 Def / 196 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Rock Blast
- Earthquake
- Dragon Dance
- Taunt

Offensive Dragon Dance
Patodactyl @ Loaded Dice
Ability: Rock Head
Level: 5
Tera Type: Rock
EVs: 36 HP / 236 Atk / 196 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Rock Blast
- Earthquake
- Double-Edge
- Dragon Claw

Suicide Lead
Patodactyl @ Focus Sash
Ability: Pressure
Level: 5
Tera Type: Rock
EVs: 36 HP / 236 Atk / 196 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Rock Blast
- Earthquake
- Taunt
- Stealth Rock

Description: The idea is that Patodactyl cannot fly, therefore it cannot learn any Flying-type move. In addition to that it hits a nice speed tier in 18 (if maxed) and Dragon Dance makes it harder to revenge kill after a boost. Rock Blast is a better option in LC due to the damage rolls in the tier, provided it hits 3 times.




Pokémon: Lapri
Evolves Into: Lapras (Evolves into Lapras with a Waterstone)
Stats: 90/55/60/65/55/30 (355)
Typing:

Abilites: Water Absorb / Shell Armor / Hydration (HA)

Removed Moves

Avalanche, Ice Shard, Outrage, Giga Impact

Freeze-Dry, Aurora Beam, Frost Breath, Icy Wind, Sheer Cold, Hyper Beam

Hail

Sample Sets

Physically Defensive
Lapri @ Eviolite
Ability: Water Absorb
Level: 5
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 36 HP / 196 Def / 236 SpD / 36 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Hydro Pump
- Thunderbolt
- Body Press / Hidden Power [Fire]
- Heal Bell / Hidden Power [Fire]

Bulky Offensive
Lapri @ Life Orb
Ability: Water Absorb
Level: 5
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 196 HP / 36 Def / 240 SpA
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 30 SpA / 30 Spe
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [Fire]

Dragon Dance
Lapri @ Eviolite
Ability: Water Absorb
Level: 5
Tera Type: Psychic
EVs: 236 Atk / 196 Def / 76 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Liquidation
- Zen Headbutt
- Megahorn
- Dragon Dance

Curse Sweeper
Lapras @ Eviolite
Ability: Water Absorb
Level: 5
Tera Type: Fighting
EVs: 196 HP / 36 Def / 236 SpD
Careful Nature
- Liquidation
- Zen Headbutt
- Body Press
- Curse

Description:



Pokémon: Horli
Evolves Into: Pinsir
Stats: 45/65/60/45/60/65 (340)
Typing:

Abilites: Hyper Cutter / Mold Breaker / Moxie (HA)

Removed Moves

Close Combat, Focus Punch, Outrage

Focus Blast

Sample Sets

Choice Scarf
Horli @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Moxie
Level: 5
Tera Type: Bug
EVs: 236 Atk / 36 SpD / 236 Spe
Adamant Nature
- X-Scissor
- Superpower
- Earthquake
- Knock Off / Stone Edge / Rock Slide

Swords Dance
Horli @ Life Orb
Ability: Moxie
Level: 5
Tera Type: Bug
EVs: 236 Atk / 36 SpD / 236 Spe
Jolly Nature
IVs: 9 HP
- X-Scissor
- Superpower / Rock Slide
- Earthquake / Rock Slide
- Swords Dance

Offensive Stealth Rock
Pinsir @ Eviolite
Ability: Moxie
Level: 5
Tera Type: Bug
EVs: 236 Atk / 116 Def / 116 SpD
Adamant Nature
- X-Scissor
- Superpower / Rock Slide
- Earthquake / Rock Slide
- Stealth Rock

Description:





for later :)

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[B]Description[/B]:

 

[BreloomBuddy]

Name: Paleaero (pay-lee-air-o)
Type: Rock / Flying
Abilities: Sturdy / Rock Head | Unnerve
Evolves into: Aerodactyl
Stats: HP-72 Atk-70 Def-45 SpA-25 SpD-39 Spe-79 BST: 330
Description: Sturdy to help him set up. Can easily get up Stealth Rocks or a Dragon Dance without being OHKOed and then hit back hard with multi hit STAB moves like Dual Wingbeat and Rock B

 

[Capitão General]

Name: Lonessy
Type: Water
Abilities: Water Absorb / Oblivious / Hydration
Stats: 92/50/46/50/64/25 (327)
Description: It lost its ice typing because if it was born at an extremely similar place to Loch Ness, the water from it technically wouldn't be frozen, so its ice typing did not "mature" yet. It also does not have a shell yet (so its Shell Armor ability is replaced) because mostmythical representations of the Monster of the Loch Ness does not have a shell either, so in Lapras' case, probably they got in a later stage of their life.
Evolution Method: Level up while holding a Shell Bell
Removed Moves: Avalanche; Blizzard; Freeze-Dry; Frost Breath; Future Sight; Horn Drill; Megahorn; Perysh Song; Psychic; Sparkling Area; Thunder

Name: Spikai
Type: Bug
Abilities: Hyper Cutter / Mold Breaker / Moxie
Stats: 38/90/69/16/30/60 (303)
Evolution Method: Level up with a hapiness lower than 10
Removed Moves: Bind; Close Combat; Rage; Outrage; Vice Grip

 

[ItzaDelta]

Pokémon: Dimorphorok
Evolves Into: Aerodactyl (Evolves at level 35.)
Stats: 50/75/55/30/65/80
Typing: Rock/Flying
Abilites: Pressure/Rock Head/Unnerve

Removed Moves

Earthquake, Dragon Claw, Bulldoze.

Dragon Pulse, Dragon Breath, Twister, Earth Power.

Dragon Dance, Roost.

Aerodactyl's preevolution, Dimorphorok, is inspired by the Dimorphodon, a small pterosaur. Competitively, Dimorphorok is pretty straightforward, it abuses its fantastic speed tier and good power to break holes in the opposing team, with some compression to boot in the form of Stealth Rocks.

 

[G-Luke]

Pokémon: Snipsquire
Evolves Into: Pinsir
Stats: 40 HP / 100 Atk / 65 Def / 25 SpA / 45 SpD / 60 Spe | BST: 335
Typing:

Abilites: Klutz / Mold Breaker | HA: Moxie

Removed Moves

Close Combat, Giga Impact, High Horsepower, Earthquake, Outrage

Hyper Beam, Focus Blast

NIL

Description: Tiny boi bug


Pokémon: Nessea
Evolves Into: Lapras
Stats: 65 HP / 55 Atk / 50 Def / 55 SpA / 65 SpD / 70 Spe
Typing:

Abilites: Water Absorb / Swift Swim | HA: Hydration

Removed Moves

Avalanche, Horny Drill, Fissure, Ice Shard, Giga Impact, Megahorn

Hyper Beam, Frost Breath, Sheer Cold, Freeze Dry

NIL

Description:
Small Loch Ness monster. It lacks the shell so no Shell Armor, but this makes it faster

 

[APaidActor]

Name: Aerodandyl (Aerodactyl + Dandle)
Original Pokemon: Aerodactyl
Type: Rock / Flying
Ability: Rock Head / No Guard / Unnerve
Stats: 55 / 65 / 40 / 30 / 50 / 85 [BST: 325]
Removed Moves:

• Physical: Aqua Tail, Dual Wingbeat, Iron Tail
• Special: Earth Power, Hurricane,
• Status: Supersonic, Swagger

Description: Fast DDmon or attacker that struggles against Steel-types and Ground-types since it has to rely on the Fang moves for that.


Name: Lapry (Lapras + Fry - as in small fry)
Original Pokemon: Lapras
Type: Water
Ability: Water Absorb / Unaware / Hydration
Stats: 70 / 60 / 55 / 60 / 65 / 30 [BST: 340]
Removed Moves:

• Physical: Outrage, Fissure
• Special: Blizzard, Freeze Dry, Sparkling Aria, Aurora Beam
• Status: Perish Song, Nightmare, Sing

Description: Bulky water stat stick and speed control with Unaware to better handle Pawniard and other setupmons


Name: Pinstar (Pinsir + Instar - the classification given to Pupas/Grubs)
Original Pokemon: Pinsir
Type: Bug
Ability: Hyper Cutter / Mold Breaker / Moxie
Stats: 45 / 85 / 70 / 25 / 40 / 65 [BST: 340]
Removed Moves:

• Physical: Close Combat, Earthquake, High Horsepower, Seismic Toss, Storm Throw
• Special: Focus Blast
• Status: Bulk Up

Description: SDmon that hits 17 speed with a colorful movepool, although its bad typing makes it hard for it to switch in consistently.

 

[Ema Skye]

Name: Ptera
Original Pokemon: Aerodactyl
Type: Rock / Flying
Ability: Pressure / Reckless / Pickup
Stats: 55 / 65 / 40 / 35 / 50 / 105 [BST: 350]
Removed Moves:

• Physical: Aqua Tail, Earthquake, Iron Tail, Rock Blast, Stone Edge
• Special: Earth Power, Hurricane,
• Status: Supersonic, Swagger, Dragon Dance

Description: really good offensive stats for LC (is the fastest mon in the meta) but with Rock Slide for STAB it doesn't hit nearly as hard as on paper.

 

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24 hours warning for submissions!

 

[guttrainer]

Name: Dactlyttle
Type: Rock
Abilities: Sturdy / Pressure / Wind Rider
Evolves: level-up while knowing Fly
BST: 47 / 76 / 66 / 38 / 55 / 66 (355)
Removed Moves: Aqua Tail, Earth Power, Earthquake, Giga Impact, Hyper Beam, Iron Tail, Stone Edge, Strength
Desc: Tiny aero that's learning to fly, wind rider grant some immunities while a solid sr setter

Name: Cuteir
Type: Bug
Abilities: Hyper Cutter / Oblivious / Run Away
Evolves: level-up at level 30
BST: 40 / 90 / 66 / 5 / 66 / 66 (333)
Removed Moves: Giga Impact, High Horsepower, Hyper Beam, Earthquake, Outrage
Desc: Strong physical mon, good scarf user.

Name: Lacry
Type: Water
Abilities: Water Absorb / Shell Armor / Hydration
Evolves: using Ice Stone
BST: 79 / 58 / 61 / 61 / 69 / 34 (362)
Removed Moves: All Electric and Ice type moves (except Freeze Dry and Ice Shard)
Desc: Defensive Pokémon that also can be an offensive threat

 

[Samtendo09]

Name: Pinchee (Pin-chee; Pinch + Eee)
Type: Bug
Abilities: Hyper Cutter / Rattled | No Guard
Evolves: Level-up at level 33 or higher
BST: 50 / 92 / 80 / 18 / 60 / 55 (355)
Removed Moves: Guillotine, Focus Blast, Giga Impact, High Horsepower, Hyper Beam, Earthquake, Outrage
Desc: Physical wallbreaker with either Rattled (vs common Ghost) or No Guard (for non-missing Stone Edge).


Name: Tiness (Tai-ness; Tiny + Loch Ness)
Type: Water
Abilities: Water Absorb / Cute Charm | Hydration
Evolves: Use an Ice Stone
BST: 90 / 68 / 61 / 71 / 69 / 34 (393)
Removed Moves: All Electric and Ice type moves except Freeze-Dry, Body Press, Future Sight
Desc: A glue mon with solid stats, but have situational abilities. Can go physical or special depending on what the team needs.

 

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Subs are closed, and here come the vetos!

Name: Ptera
Original Pokemon: Aerodactyl
Type: Rock / Flying
Ability: Pressure / Reckless / Pickup
Stats: 55 / 80 / 40 / 35 / 50 / 105 [BST: 365]
Removed Moves:

• Physical: Aqua Tail, Earthquake, Iron Tail, Rock Blast, Stone Edge
• Special: Earth Power, Hurricane,
• Status: Supersonic, Swagger

Description: really good offensive stats for LC (is the fastest mon in the meta) but with Rock Slide for STAB it doesn't hit nearly as hard as on paper.

We recommend you to lower the Speed a little, and then it's good to go. It's too fast.

This is the only veto, so when it gets fixed, we can open up votes! You have 24 hours.

 

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Votes are open! You can vote for every submission.

We will use the following voting format:
Voting Will be point-based
guttrainer (3), Necrozmancer2 (2), FP (1)
Moretto (SV) (3), FP (2), Necrozmancer2 (1)
Necrozmancer2 (3), FP (2), guttrainer (1), Moretto (SV) (1)

You can have two self-votes, and only one may be first place.
Votes are open for 24 hours.

 

[Lord Zorz]

1. ViZar
2. DeepBlue
3. BreloomBuddy
4. APaidActor
5. Guttrainer

I feel like when translating these pokemon to a pre-evo, it's important to look at what can make them unique while also still being a "younger" version of the grown up 'mon. In this respect, I find ViZar strikes a dominate showcase of keeping Aero unique and powerful, but with some interesting downsides as well.

1. Samtendo
2. APaidActor
3. ViZar
4. G-Luke
5. Guttrainer
6. Capitão General

A pinsir pre-evo is very tricky, considering it's typing and track record of being a rather underwhelming bug all together, I enjoy the direction Samtendo took with their concept here, but I don't want to discredit APaidActor either--! This seems like a 'mon that will probably need further rebalance after it's put in.

1. APaidActor
2. ViZar
3. G-Luke
4. Capitão General
5. Guttrainer
6. Samtendo

Sadly, none of you kept Lapras as an Ice type as a pre-evo. I think APaidActor has the right direction on making it have somewhat of a niche while removing the least amount of stuff from it. Seriously, removing the gen 1 oddities (electric, ice, psychic moves...) from this may sound "correct" or lean into the flavor, but would just hurt it in being a worthwhile pick.


Alrighty! I submit my votes, I also recommend extending the votes by another day or two honestly.

 

[APaidActor]

I-Deepblue-I, BreloomBuddy, ViZar
G-Luke, guttrainer, APaidActor(SV)
APaidActor(SV), ViZar, Samtendo09

 

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Because we had no votes until recently, i'm extending the votes for 24 hours additional to the first voting deadline.

 

[G-Luke]

ViZar, Ema Skye, BreloomBuddy, |-Deepblue-|
guttrainer, G-Luke, ViZar, APaidActor
Samtendo09, Capitao General, G-Luke

 

[ViZar]

ViZar, I-Deepblue-I, BreloomBuddy
G-Luke, APaidActor, Samtendo09
Samtendo09, guttrainer, G-Luke

 

[Samtendo09]

BreloomBuddy, ViZar, I-Deepblue-I
G-Luke, APaidActor, guttrainer
Samtendo09 (SV), G-Luke, ViZar

 

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Winners!

Pokémon: Patodactyl
Evolves Into: Aerodactyl (Evolves at Level 40 while knowing Ancient Power)
Stats: 40/65/45/40/55/80 (325)
Typing:

Abilities: Rock Head / Pressure / Unnerve (HA)

Removed Moves

Dual Wingbeat, Aerial Ace, Fly, Sky Attack, Sky Drop, Wing Attack

Hurricane, Air Cutter, Heat Wave, Twister, Razor Wind, Ominous Wind

Defog, Roost, Tailwind

Sample Sets

Bulky Dragon Dance
Patodactyl @ Eviolite
Ability: Pressure
Level: 5
Tera Type: Rock
EVs: 36 HP / 236 Def / 196 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Rock Blast
- Earthquake
- Dragon Dance
- Taunt

Offensive Dragon Dance
Patodactyl @ Loaded Dice
Ability: Rock Head
Level: 5
Tera Type: Rock
EVs: 36 HP / 236 Atk / 196 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Rock Blast
- Earthquake
- Double-Edge
- Dragon Claw

Suicide Lead
Patodactyl @ Focus Sash
Ability: Pressure
Level: 5
Tera Type: Rock
EVs: 36 HP / 236 Atk / 196 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Rock Blast
- Earthquake
- Taunt
- Stealth Rock

Description: The idea is that Patodactyl cannot fly, therefore it cannot learn any Flying-type move. In addition to that it hits a nice speed tier in 18 (if maxed) and Dragon Dance makes it harder to revenge kill after a boost. Rock Blast is a better option in LC due to the damage rolls in the tier, provided it hits 3 times.

Pokémon: Snipsquire
Evolves Into: Pinsir
Stats: 40 HP / 100 Atk / 65 Def / 25 SpA / 45 SpD / 60 Spe | BST: 335
Typing:

Abilites: Klutz / Mold Breaker | HA: Moxie

Removed Moves

Close Combat, Giga Impact, High Horsepower, Earthquake, Outrage

Hyper Beam, Focus Blast

NIL

Description: Tiny boi bug

Name: Tiness (Tai-ness; Tiny + Loch Ness)
Type: Water
Abilities: Water Absorb / Cute Charm | Hydration
Evolves: Use an Ice Stone
BST: 90 / 68 / 61 / 71 / 69 / 34 (393)
Removed Moves: All Electric and Ice type moves except Freeze-Dry, Body Press, Future Sight
Desc: A glue mon with solid stats, but have situational abilities. Can go physical or special depending on what the team needs.

With this, here comes slate 2!!!

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[Loginator]

Name: Darksol
Type: Dark
Abilites: Pressure / Super Luck / Justified (HA)
Evolves: Into Absol at level 30.
BST: 45 / 100 / 40 / 45 / 40 / 60 | 330
Removed Moves: Close Combat, Superpower
Description: Hitting a 19 attack stat with full investment, Darksol is devestaingly powerful. STAB Knock Off combined with Swords Dance hits very hard, and solid abilites in Super Luck and Justified only make it stronger. Despite its middling speed, it also has STAB Sucker Punch to stop revenge killers. However, without fighting coverage, its movepool is terrible, making it easily walled by anything that resists Dark, especially Psychic, with basically only Iron Tail and Play Rough as coverage. Darksol is also incredibly frail, which combined with the only decent speed means anything that can take a Sucker Punch or has priority of its own can take it out.


Name: Burntle
Type: Fire
Abilites: White Smoke / Shell Armor / Drought (HA)
Evolves: Into Torkoal with a Fire Stone.
BST: 50 / 50 / 90 / 65 / 50 / 20 | 325
Removed Moves: Earth Power, Solar Beam, Stone Edge
Description: Basically just the same as normal Torkoal, but with potential Evolite. It's a good support Pokemon that can set up sun, spread burns with Lava Plume, set up rocks, and remove hazards with Rapid Spin. Its terrible speed, below average special bulk, and common weaknesses are what hold it back, although its physical bulk is still very solid.


Name: Toxiconda
Type: Poison
Abilites: Shed Skin / Inflitrator (HA)
Evolves: Into Seviper at level 27.
BST: 53 / 70 / 50 / 70 / 50 / 50 | 333
Removed Moves: Earthquake, Swords Dance
Description: Decent mixed attacker with a surprsingly good movepool with coverage options such as Aqua Tail and Flamethrower, as well as priority in Sucker Punch. However, its slow speed and poor bulk means it can easily be revenge killed and thus is mostly only servicable as a wallbreaker.