NOC eli loves matrices game thread [Game Over, Town Win!]

Vizh said:
What would that mean in this scenario? Like how is what Psy said a slip in any way? Just feels like a read imo.
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Schia said that it is possible Psy and you are buddies and that Psy accidentally revealed that by saying (in no uncertain terms) that you are pocketing me.

I'm a little split over the idea. I do think you have a lot of buddy potential even outside of that, and I also note that Psy both dropped the idea, and later argued (somewhere in the ocean of nonsense, I think) that I was pocketing you instead. The hard reverse is rather notable and sort of legitimates Schia's post.

The other side of it is that Psy does not exactly have careful phrasing. It is annoying to give a free pass, but if anyone has earned one with respect to careful phrasing it is Psy.
 
Psypsypsypsypsythe said:
the post I quoted
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Okay.

Schiavetto said:
Hi I'm at work and today has been a coverage nightmare so I don't have much time (I'll tell you all about it when I get home and blogpost about it though) but I just want to say that #426 and #429 from Psy looks like TMI, if anyone feels diffithey should speak up.
Caff is my most confident town atm.
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It was in response to this post by Schia. Schia thought you might have TMI due to these posts

Psypsypsypsypsythe said:
oh and hes pocketing celever
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Psypsypsypsypsythe said:
at least it reads to me more like pocketing than buddying but neither can be ruled out
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Presumably because in this world, you're scumbuddies w/ Vizh.
I'm looking at these two posts and vaguely remembering the whole read you have on Vizh. I didn't think that you're TMI'ing, I thought you were doing the same post avalanche stuff you were doing last game where you convinced yourself wholeheartedly that there wasn't a single null read in the game. I responded half-jokingly with a "nah it's just Psy being Psy" kinda comment, saying that "no, I don't think it's TMI, here's why".
 
Aura Guardian said:
I 100% disagree, as long as there's a good baseline. In this case, comparing people to their own past games would be fine with me. Thread's moving fast enough now that I can't tell if that's what you meant, though.

(and wow, +6 pages just when I'm playing 3 rounds of overwatch ...)
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No that is what I meant, but it does fall under a more out of game philosophical conversation. In my view, town activity tells are a complete free pass to scum because they garner towncred through inaction, which means putting stock in them is just the town nerfing themselves when they are scum. And the vast, vast majority of activity tell usage in mafia tends to fall under trying to justify someone as town, that I've seen.

OTOH scum activity tells are extraordinarily level-1 to the point they should be discarded entirely. Voting someone out for an activity tell is equivalent to a policy vote, just with a degree of meta involved, because it will usually only ever be invoked for extreme (in)activity.
 
Celever said:
No that is what I meant, but it does fall under a more out of game philosophical conversation. In my view, town activity tells are a complete free pass to scum because they garner towncred through inaction, which means putting stock in them is just the town nerfing themselves when they are scum. And the vast, vast majority of activity tell usage in mafia tends to fall under trying to justify someone as town, that I've seen.

OTOH scum activity tells are extraordinarily level-1 to the point they should be discarded entirely. Voting someone out for an activity tell is equivalent to a policy vote, just with a degree of meta involved, because it will usually only ever be invoked for extreme (in)activity.
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Shrug. Well, you have a lot more recent experience than I do, so I'll take your word for it.
 
Psypsypsypsypsythe said:
it's also worth saying how schia drops the psy/vizh thing but just keeps their vote sitting on celever
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They basically haven't posted since other than saying they'll be here later. IIRC the "I'm keeping my vote on Celever" post was before the psy/vizh thing though so this is fairly valid, they certainly threw it into the thread with little commitment.
 
Psypsypsypsypsythe said:
it's also worth saying how schia drops the psy/vizh thing but just keeps their vote sitting on celever
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Was genuinely wondering how long it would take you to notice if I kept my vote there after dropping the post lmao. Crazy it took you this long.

I get home within the hour. There's a chance I move back to Cel or Psy but I'd actually much rather go here in the meantime:

Unvote Celever

Vote OM
 
Schiavetto said:
Was genuinely wondering how long it would take you to notice if I kept my vote there after dropping the post lmao. Crazy it took you this long.

I get home within the hour. There's a chance I move back to Cel or Psy but I'd actually much rather go here in the meantime:

Unvote Celever

Vote OM
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WHAT
 
Schiavetto said:
Was genuinely wondering how long it would take you to notice if I kept my vote there after dropping the post lmao. Crazy it took you this long.

I get home within the hour. There's a chance I move back to Cel or Psy but I'd actually much rather go here in the meantime:

Unvote Celever

Vote OM
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I had the thought for a while but I dont remember why I didnt point it out. figured no one would care I guess

vote om
 
Re:OM, he has difficulty posting as wolf and it's problematic that he has not produced enough content to make a determination regarding his alignment, so I'm here. Join me or don't, like I said I get home within the hour. See you then.
 
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