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NOC Smalltown Hotel Mafia - Game Thread (MAFIA WINS)
- Thread starter CaffeineBoost
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Not too much no, thread kinda died again and the dl extension kinda halted urgency for a bit but i'll try and be a bit more fair tonight
Like I read what you said in response and your other posts on the page. Your posts are feeling better that but I'm conditioning myself cos 1. it's gonna be a gut thing for me which i am trying not to bias myself into and 2. it doesnt change that it's coming now and not earlier in the game
I agree that people arent making themselves easily readable and the memo to struggling to find strong scumreads to solve via town reads but that's just like, a picture frame
Do you think I'm being too overly cautious by putting you on a higher bar or something
why?
Kind of think the number of scumteams he’s locking himself into by posting as he is steadily decreasing
Or his partners are exactly in the lower posters
not really I don't think I have done much to deserve to be townread but also done think I have done much to deserve a scumread
which I guess is by definition what a high bad is but I think that's basically every game I play, I think a lot of what you said about me is like true, but the differences you're finding aren't necessarily scummy or towny it's just me being different to how I always play this time around
have I missed him making reads? he's basically just pushed mechanics and had a wide poe of let's vote in X players which keeps his vote very free for EOD right
Sry walked into class
yeah I mean shrug like the basis behind conditioning myself is that I definitely do feel like you had a poor start to the thread compared to what I’d have expected and compared it to
But like the problem is if I tell you you have a weaker entrance, but your response is that you’re being different then like I have to now gauge that in mind to consider your posts coming from a confused town pov and I’m probably gonna bias myself into it the more I talk to you so I would have to explore more worlds. Which would be like, realiti looks worse? Hal would look worse but i don’t actually believe that as much unfortunately. But the other person defending u is m24 so ?? idk the world has to look completely different for you right, and it’s still not apparent because you/m24/hal look like the main thrown out wagons that people aren’t moving towards to liking. idk if that made sense
It doesn’t change that I still have that thought but like I am always gonna be thinking at the back of the mind “ok well Tommy just sucks game”.
To me that’s the point
It’s easy to hide behind, sure, but it’s also not exactly the most advised way to fit into the thread right. It’s just a mindset pov
also just like some of his role poe happens to be some of the lead wagons (you, hal) and like so is he shoving the rest of his team into the beneficial roles
ok sorry replace it with like “I’m not used to this”
like objectively I've played better than hal by this point, you just have a higher bar based on what you expect me to post I guess? whereas hal can no post and get away with what he wants oftentimes, though that isn't happening so much that game I think you and I are fine with it, but I definitely think I've been fine overall here, possibly good even depending on how accurate my reads end up being
I think the worst thing you can do is force reads you don't have because you think it makes you look towny, because then we just end up with a bucket of shit reads, I'd rather build a towncore slow and secure than end up with like 50/50 splits, which is in fact I'd argue how I play as mafia
I think the worst thing you can do is force reads you don't have because you think it makes you look towny, because then we just end up with a bucket of shit reads, I'd rather build a towncore slow and secure than end up with like 50/50 splits, which is in fact I'd argue how I play as mafia
well I mean I have him as null, but I know I'm town al it's not unreasonable to think if he was mafia, but then I don't think having an option of 9 people who could be your team (if you exclude me hal and yourself) is that small a pool, even then he hasn't exactly pushed anyone hard and I'd say even if he flipped mafia me and hal could still be scum based on it and could just be attested to light distancing (possibly)
I actually think he's one of the few players who has really hard pushed anyone, keeping loose reasoning and wide options so he probably has some of the most possible partners
that being said I think trying to judge if someone is scum or not based on preflipping partners D1 is one of the most horrible ways you can attempt to play mafia
sure yeah I don’t argue that ur posts have been better, more nuanced, consistent, and you’ve had more time to think on your feet. Even now I’m like ah ok fine
Like in the case of hal vs u the point is that his posts suck, and his scumgame they felt more nuanced and crafted, which is the rate of comparison im at right. It’s a super adaptation as scum, because it’s wildly different from that game, or leads to an entirely different approach. Tbh I feel like hal could get away with playing like how he did again which is why I’m not calling it out.
okay
I don’t have a response to this really I kinda just see it more as a mindset thing and how id envision play would be different on a scum rand for jalmont on a team which sells me more towny if that makes sense
wrt hal I do agree, but that's not my point
obviously me and hal are different players and you should read us in different light, I don't mind being scumread if I think it's justified, and I don't mind not being townread if I think it's justified, but I just think it's unfair to say I've sucked when I think I've probably been better than most players in the game so far
fair, but if jalmont theoretically flipped mafia today I don't believe there's any player you would actually say D2 is spewed town from how jalmont has played today
ok sorry didnt mean to be offensive
honestly, i scumread you early now i think youre town
could just be a case where theres scum in the hard to read players and we are just trying our best to avoid them for now because its like throwing a dart blindfolded and so forcing reads onto the more contentful players
though i accept i am a hard read still, but regardless you are wrong here
could just be a case where theres scum in the hard to read players and we are just trying our best to avoid them for now because its like throwing a dart blindfolded and so forcing reads onto the more contentful players
though i accept i am a hard read still, but regardless you are wrong here
realitis early posts and vote on tommy also kinda suck in hindsight, but maybe im equating "suck" with the worldview that "this would look pretty bad and tbh kinda unjustified if tommy were town", which is an assumption on a preflip
so it makes me think my original thought was wrong, but that would make me require throwing out why i thought tommy was scummy to begin with
and like interacting with tommy is making me feel better about the slot which is making me uncomfortable so yea
so it makes me think my original thought was wrong, but that would make me require throwing out why i thought tommy was scummy to begin with
and like interacting with tommy is making me feel better about the slot which is making me uncomfortable so yea
yeah maybe
like i definitely dont think all 3 are in the mega actives at least, theres a bit of dichotomy stuff going on w people like hal/you are being the more "easy" votes anyway
i kind voted him on a whim cause i thought he was a player i would actually be able to form a read on early, but then his reaction and entry to thread later was so much worse than anything he did before