NOC Werewolf Mafia - Game Over: Mafia Wins!

Anyway, now that I know I can’t actually wait around to see how people react to my pushes because we have fairly little time, it is onto actual business of reading people instead of prodding at people.



Right now I think it’s fairly likely that Spiderz and Celevete are mafia. Something to keep in mind is that it’s stated that Spiderz is a fairly experienced scum player and they are probably capable of making some townie sounding posts, but I think Spiderz would still struggle with TMI/pushing their own agenda which is why I think they are mafia right now.



Let’s take a look at SPIDERZ own entrance to the thread. Scum, even experienced players, often can be caught on their opening posts which is why you see people often push people for their opening. Despite this, people usually let these slots go for making “fair enough” “townish” posts despite the fact that they were perfectly catchable from their opening.



Their (most important, imo) opening posts are as follows:



























Notice anything strange? Well I sure did. Spider opens up the game with a vote to presumably pressure celevter, but instead of actually following up on any of the pressure they actually exert MORE pressure on people who they were NOT actually voting, instead of the person they are voting. They also switch their pressure target from celevter to someone celevter was scumreading, despite the fact that they called those people Celevter was scumreading “completely random” people. I don’t actually have any experience with scum!spider on whether or not to confirm this but I think it’s fairly likely that scum spider saw a wolfy post from one of their partners, voted them, then decided that maybe bussing in a game where you can randomly die to a SK isn’t a good idea and decided to put pressure on someone else, which explains why there is a conflict between calling celeveters reads random and then voting one of those same people! I feel like if they were town they would kinda believe that maybe those people weren’t actually random if it vibed with one of their own reads, and this just reveals Spiderz having TMI.



Firekitten will be back later with more officially approved confirm biased cases, stay tuned!

read on spiderz actually kind good but for different reasons, I could see the vote just being a park for distancing mayhaps also
 
not really interested in discussing this too seriously because lol he didn’t post but i can’t quite possibly imagine how psy is a real scumread for people (actually maybe just Duskfall98), like him being a low poster is one thing but being afk is completely different

like you’d have to imagine he just hates his team enough to not post in thread but I think scum psy would’ve just made an awkward entrance by now and dipped (and town psy, who is motivated enough to toppost, would have done so, but generally this much of an insane shift of behavior can’t really point that out as not!town psy, rather that it’s neither!psy)

sort of the psychology behind someone attempting to replicate what they have as their meta rather than making no attempt at all
 
celever is posting like he’s very useless but (without rereading last game, and i won’t until my days over) im struggling to see how his behavior is starkly different from it at the moment
 
alternatively if your ISO target does other things and you want to filter it out, you can use the search feature. (how is psy the last person to show up lol)View attachment 527763
and i was coming around to ls being town before any angleshoot (there’s no screenshot so I assume it was deleted) so lolz

this was what realiti was talking about - me having an unread pm as being angleshoot to being scum
 
however ImaginaryNeon have you and do you play mafia anywhere else
I played once on the Mafia room in Showdown and then proceeded to not do so again for a while until now.
I think my issue with that room was that they have like 30 different other roles and twists that you're seemingly expected to know beforehand and that aren't explained too well. Also I just kinda stopped caring more or less.
Although, I have played a little bit irl, but that was at an event where we had little else to do and it was like a few years ago I think.
But yeah I'm not actively doing any other Mafia shit.
 
THE VIBES (TM)

Heavy Town:
realiti

TownLeans:
LS (Contributing a lot in posts, however they're not Heavy Town because they didn't know what Zelba was)
Spiderz (noticing I have a habit of townleaning people that vote me, might be somethingi have to work on.)
firekitten (Clearly invested and contributing :blobthumbsup: )
Eli (Been having a good couple of days, and they have super positive posts that i don't want to lapse my judgement rn, they however just scream town rn.)

Null:
Celever (Gonna wait on this slot, probably the most towny of my nulls tho)
Tommy (gonna wait a bit before forming tommy opinions)
Skipper (Don't have a lot on them rn)
psy (lol)
Hydro (lol x2)
whydon (lol x3)


Scumlean:
ImaginariyNeon (The coaching allegations go hard)
Jalmont (Bro i hate your stupid list so much, throw it out)


Just Maf:
Laurel (kind of a meme, but also a d1 soulread)
 
not really interested in discussing this too seriously because lol he didn’t post but i can’t quite possibly imagine how psy is a real scumread for people (actually maybe just Duskfall98), like him being a low poster is one thing but being afk is completely different

like you’d have to imagine he just hates his team enough to not post in thread but I think scum psy would’ve just made an awkward entrance by now and dipped (and town psy, who is motivated enough to toppost, would have done so, but generally this much of an insane shift of behavior can’t really point that out as not!town psy, rather that it’s neither!psy)

sort of the psychology behind someone attempting to replicate what they have as their meta rather than making no attempt at all
Yeah I feel like the psy read from tommie sucks
 
Also wtf was the deal with the screenshot lol, or are we not talking about it

tbf ive had it for 6 months now so i dont think about it. idk what there is to talk about. it's something ive gotta figure out how to take care of at some point but dont know how to resolve it yet so im leaving it unread so it sticks at the top of my messages. if anyone has a python script that can scrape and dl all/some of smogon.com/stats/ lmk and i can toss that unread.
 
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