NOC Werewolf Mafia - Game Over: Mafia Wins!

I don’t think it’s w/w, I just think it’s strange that the thread exploded over this when I don’t really understand what actually caused the explosion? There would be multiple ramps off though if they were w/w it just felt really weird from both sides
celever made that opening post, tommy comments about it on page 3 and 4

tommy asks celever about it again on 11 and then doubles down on the sr and then they fight for the first time
 
with being static on a tunnel tommy tunneled his partner realiti and chose not to really interact with anyone else throughout d1 but I interpreted that as a game plan on the onset

so like, celever, are you tommys partner :heart:
TBF I'm talking about the opener where Tommy fought Psy

And Tommy is still static in a tunnel this time on Psy so
 
What did you gain out of that response?
For context, the first game I played in on MafiaUniverse I did the masterful strategy of confusing the entire thread and becoming top wagon, partly due to dusk, and if I recall correctly it took like a while for dusk to actually get off of me because I irritated him iirc, from my memory Duskfall is actually pretty stubborn with his reads and he already planted the flag of “well I don’t want to town read you” so I think it’s strange that he just Moved On, which is the optimal move if he was actually mafia as opposed to what the optimal move from my point of view is to keep at it there to see what happens
 
a bit of a synopsis but yeah it probably would be more “constructed” if they shared w

i don’t think it’s unlike either of them to get prickly over things others don’t find as awkward (probably can find a better word than awkward but best I can think of)
 
For context, the first game I played in on MafiaUniverse I did the masterful strategy of confusing the entire thread and becoming top wagon, partly due to dusk, and if I recall correctly it took like a while for dusk to actually get off of me because I irritated him iirc, from my memory Duskfall is actually pretty stubborn with his reads and he already planted the flag of “well I don’t want to town read you” so I think it’s strange that he just Moved On, which is the optimal move if he was actually mafia as opposed to what the optimal move from my point of view is to keep at it there to see what happens
Lowk exactly this lol this is why ignoring him was beneficial bc it put him into claiming to be in a tunnel and seeing how he responds to that.

Which yeah we a full 180, last game vs Psy it was also a full 180 (and Tommy was w). Tommy pulling the 180, trying to excuse it as some kind of ego thing and then leaving rlly seems more like he got caught out
 
ImaginaryNeon Do you have any reads so far

Not really, as I don't really know how these people normally tend to act to make a comparison.

Though I don't quite trust Ehmcee given he just seems to be making shit up with the whole coaching thing, because I don't tend to try and seek advice in these kinds of things.
I'd rather look like an idiot than feel like I'm cheating

Also, I just tend to just to play it as it happens as opposed to trying to go for hard reads everything.
 
My reaction to this argument once I realize what the thread exploded over:
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go have fun kiddos I’m going to do my homework
 
Ehmcee can you please explain your read on neon more
aight finally got an actual answer so i can unload this

A Noobie's Meta-Analysis of Neon

For the record, don't really think he's getting coached lol, wanted to see some kind of response from Neon before explaining myself.

I was initially dumb as bricks and thought Eli's post was saying that he initially seemed towny as hell, but then felt like they were getting coached by scumchat, #470 seemed weirdly introspective for the guy that's been posting TFT and Speedrun.com posts for most of the game, so it at least made some sense to me.

Neon then had kind of a nothing-burger response to it with #495, man i don't know the people you know...


After making the big read post, and getting pushback from it (probably deserved), I wanted to get some further reaction from Neon, so when asked for a better explanation from Tommy, I tunneled to get more out of him. Main reasoning was that Neon would no longer have to answer or interact with me, so I voted him to get more from him. Also didn't want to directly prompt him to answer just so it wouldn't feel like it's a gotcha moment or a behaviour analysis.

Aight anyways, this aint a real read, he's got no skin in the game

Unvote

Vote Laurel


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Not really, as I don't really know how these people normally tend to act to make a comparison.

Though I don't quite trust Ehmcee given he just seems to be making shit up with the whole coaching thing, because I don't tend to try and seek advice in these kinds of things.
I'd rather look like an idiot than feel like I'm cheating

Also, I just tend to just to play it as it happens as opposed to trying to go for hard reads everything.

really liked this post btw, would love if we could get more like them in the future :blobthumbsup:
 
aight finally got an actual answer so i can unload this

A Noobie's Meta-Analysis of Neon

For the record, don't really think he's getting coached lol, wanted to see some kind of response from Neon before explaining myself.

I was initially dumb as bricks and thought Eli's post was saying that he initially seemed towny as hell, but then felt like they were getting coached by scumchat, #470 seemed weirdly introspective for the guy that's been posting TFT and Speedrun.com posts for most of the game, so it at least made some sense to me.

Neon then had kind of a nothing-burger response to it with #495, man i don't know the people you know...


After making the big read post, and getting pushback from it (probably deserved), I wanted to get some further reaction from Neon, so when asked for a better explanation from Tommy, I tunneled to get more out of him. Main reasoning was that Neon would no longer have to answer or interact with me, so I voted him to get more from him. Also didn't want to directly prompt him to answer just so it wouldn't feel like it's a gotcha moment or a behaviour analysis.

Aight anyways, this aint a real read, he's got no skin in the game

Unvote

Vote Laurel


Back to the real viable vote
Laurel's a real read and real viable vote? :pikuh:
 
Not to mention it’s basically a colour by numbers of last game wherein you get in a fight and then townread them as soon as it ends, a narrative you’ve created yourself by likening me to Psy when the actual build up of the two scenarios are very different (Psy was actually going after you whereas I clearly wasn’t, and as LS noted before I had more of a dialogue) so eh

yes im playing same as last game im the same alignment, not the same person
 
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