NOC Werewolf Mafia - Game Over: Mafia Wins!

Lady Salamence said:
hh > the afks (laurel/skip/whydon) in no real order > spiderz/ehmcee only if the wagon-maker is legitimate in my eyes


note that i didnt put neon on the afks list bc im still in the afterglow of watching neon put effort in whereas the laurel/skip/whydon efforts were long enough ago. if neon vanishes/trolls for remainder of d2 he prob gets tossed back into that set.

hh is probably my strongest "you are not town" feel. the afks are all people ive not been thrilled on and have mostly had folks bring cases/actual wagons against. i see whydon as the legitimate 2nd alternative from eod given that the jalmont train was HH-run. skip being a major wagon for a while of d1 has me put him on that list too. laurel has grown more active which reduces the town read and he's also still in the afks.

spiderz and ehmcee im to understand have some push against but it'd depend on the origins of the wagon. i dont see other wagons forming hence why i dont comment on like, you or jalmont or realiti or firekitten or whoever the fuck else.
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why do you disregard jalmont? he's the likeliest kill for today

why do you scumread hydro?

am I a legitimate wagon maker?
 
maybe im misreading the room but i don't see a jalmont wagon forming. off the top of the head i could see myself being willing to go along with that, sure. i genuinely haven't given him thought other than "he's fighting with realiti who i'm comfortable in my town read about" and "idk why he kept up his account age shtick so late into d1". if he's a wagon i probably don't fight it. just didn't think he'd be a wagon

i scumread hydro because i am very aware that i'm playing with the same person who i played with in previous games. but every single action behavior and post has been from a completely different person, it feels like. like someone else has taken the controls. not that im saying he's being puppeted via coaching or whatever but like. who the fuck is this hydro and why is this not at all comparable to the hydro that self-voted and missed the eod where they died when they were town. totally different people.

your wagon-making legitimacy depends on which wagon you actually build. you pivot your voting frequently enough that while i trust the wagon you attach yourself to in concept, it's only a matter of time before you attach to a different wagon, yknow? like i oddly find more faith in your wagons the further away we are from eod
 
Doing some other stuff atm and can't be bothered rereading, but didn't want to just sit on this list until everything became obsolete, so here it is:

Includes:
- realiti
-psy
- Hydro
- ImaginaryNeon
- Whydon

Does not include:
- firekitten
- Spiderz
- Jalmont
- Skip
- LS
- Laurel

Heavy Town:
realiti:
Has just been contributing to general chat way too much, Additionally the whole debacle with psy into needing a replacement, supposedly for no reason other than psy annoying seems pretty justifiable in my book, and basically confirms the slot for me. There is a universe where he is maf and making up an excuse to cover for the replacement maf, but at that point why even go through the effort.


TownLeans:

psy:

Psy has just been being the exact same psy he's been every other town game I've been with them, making everybody want to rip their hair out and implode. I agree heavily with realiti's posts here and here , if you are town you genuinely need to heavily reevaluate the manner from which you are approaching this game, the way you're currently conveying your thoughts is not helpful. I think you genuinely need to take at least the smallest amount of constructive criticism about the way you're currently engaging with the thread

Hydro:
The overzealousness of wanting to get a flashwagon during eod at least somewhat tells me they're town, to me Hydro doesn't seem like someone that would try putting the spotlight on themselves that hard as scum, especially when they are overall a less experienced player. The Jalmont tunnel isn't ultimately very productive at the moment, and I think you need to cool off on it for a second.


Scumlean:

ImaginaryNeon:

Neon's just been such a wackass slot for the entirety of this game, ultimately I don't think this should be today's vote as it's my least certain scum.
He's been shitposting for half the game, but then randomly has some moments of critical thinking, this is especially weird when he's posting random memes at one point, then getting incredibly offended that people are voting him, while it's incredibly obvious that it's because he's simply not contributing. The way it's been feeling to me, is that he's just shielding his scum persona behind memes and shitposts, but is also very actively trying to not die.




Genuinely not worth reading at all, this is literally just a coinflip:

Whydon:

So on the one hand, I'm surprised by how introspective he's being, "I feel like it's problematic that I don't care about not reading the thread" is like, yeah...

But also, this could just be the most overt ww player ever as some people have stated, Nuxl was the target of WW, which Whydon also kind of jokingly called scum. I don't think I'm able to read too much out of this slot due to how volatile it is, but this is prob my largest ww sus.
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Ehmcee said:
Additionally, I think we're at a point where revealing PR's is only a viable option today I believe.

Multiple people have died and mafia rolecop potentially has their hands on one of the backups. Maf should be able to fake backup claims starting tommorow.

Would like other opinions on this as I am not the best at game theory, but we should decide wether or not we should want these to come out.
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Also I'm curious, how many people believe we should reveal PR's
 
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