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[SET]
name: Calm Mind
move 1: Hydro Pump
move 2: Ice Beam
move 3: Calm Mind
move 4: Protect
item: Lum Berry / Leftovers
ability: Pressure
nature: Modest
evs: 104 HP / 252 SpA / 152 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
  • Suicune's role as a bulky Water-type with Calm Mind makes it one of the tier's most potent simultaneous offensive and defensive threats. It can outspeed Metagross and Tyranitar, unlike Swampert, and is considerably bulkier than Starmie.
  • Hydro Pump and Ice Beam give Suicune almost perfect coverage, only failing to hit Starmie and opposing Suicune for at least neutral damage.
  • Calm Mind allows Suicune to act as a threatening win condition, OHKOing bulky Tyranitar with Hydro Pump after a Calm Mind boost and Metagross and Raikou after two. Ice Beam also 2HKOes Latias after a Calm Mind boost.
  • 152 Speed EVs allows Suicune to outspeed Jolly Tyranitar, though 228 Speed EVs will allow it to outspeed Jolly Metagross at the cost of reducing HP or Special Attack. Lum Berry helps Suicune maintain sweeps in the face of Thunder Wave or the rare Sleep Powder or Hypnosis, while Leftovers can help to maintain its longevity in exchange for being vulnerable to status.
  • Once Suicune has used Calm Mind, the opponent will be forced to answer it with physical attacks, including Explosion, which Suicune can scout for and punish with a well-timed Protect.
  • Marowak is a great partner for Suicune, as it draws away Thunderbolt from Zapdos and Raikou with Lightningrod, giving Suicune opportunities to use Calm Mind. Inversely, Zapdos and Raikou also make good partners for Suicune, as they pressure Starmie and opposing Suicune. Pokemon like Heracross, Metagross, and Tauros can help pressure special walls such as Snorlax and Latias, greatly assisting with Suicune's cleaning ability, while they also appreciate Suicune's ability to defeat Steelix and Arcanine. Fast revenge killers like Latias, Raikou, and Gengar work well to pick off low HP foes.
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[SET]
name: Calm Mind
move 1: Hydro Pump
move 2: Ice Beam
move 3: Calm Mind
move 4: Protect
item: Lum Berry / Leftovers
ability: Pressure
nature: Modest
evs: 104 HP / 252 SpA / 152 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
  • Suicune's role as a bulky Water-type in tandem with access to Calm Mind make it one of the tier's most potent simultaneous offensive and defensive threats. Unlike Swampert, it can outspeed Metagross and Tyranitar, (i'd put unlike swampert behind this comma; outspeeding is more important point) and is considerably bulkier than Starmie.
  • Hydro Pump and Ice Beam give Suicune almost perfect coverage, only failing to hit Starmie and opposing Suicune for at least neutral damage.
  • Calm Mind allows Suicune to act as a threatening win condition, OHKOing bulky Tyranitar with Hydro Pump after a single Calm Mind boost and Metagross and Raikou with two ("after two"; technically correct in that you 2HKO those with +1 Hydro Pump but I assume you mean with a single +2 Hydro Pump instead). worth mentioning 2HKO on Latias w/ Ice Beam after +1
  • 152 Speed EVs allows Suicune to outspeed Jolly Tyranitar, though 228 Speed EVs will allow it to outspeed Jolly Metagross at the cost of slightly more reducing your HP or some Special Attack. Lum Berry helps Suicune maintain sweeps in the face of Thunder Wave or the rare Sleep Powder or Hypnosis, though Leftovers can help to maintain its longevity in exchange for being more vulnerable to status effects.
  • Once Suicune has successfully used Calm Mind, the opponent will be forced to answer it with physical attacks, likely ("including") Explosion, which Suicune can scout for and punish with well-timed Protects.
  • Marowak is a great partner for Suicune as it draws away Thunderbolts from Zapdos and Raikou with Lightningrod, giving it time ("opportunity/ies?"; Lightning Rod doesn't generate more turns) to use Calm Mind. inversely, those electric-types are good teammates as they can threaten Starmie and opposing Suicune Pokemon Physical attackers like Heracross, Metagross, and Tauros that can help pressure special walls such as Snorlax and Latias will also greatly assist with Suicune's cleaning ability, while they also appreciate Suicune's ability to delete Steelix and Arcanine. Fast revenge killers like Latias, Raikou, and Gengar work well to pick off any Pokemon Suicune just barely misses knockouts on (do you have any specific benchmarks in mind or do you mean in general usage? otherwise maybe phrase it as low-HP foes or something).
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[SET]
name: Calm Mind
move 1: Hydro Pump
move 2: Ice Beam
move 3: Calm Mind
move 4: Protect
item: Lum Berry / Leftovers
ability: Pressure
nature: Modest
evs: 104 HP / 252 SpA / 152 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
  • Suicune's role as a bulky Water-type with Calm Mind makes it one of the tier's most potent simultaneous offensive and defensive threats. It can outspeed Metagross and Tyranitar,(rc) unlike Swampert, and is considerably bulkier than Starmie.
  • Hydro Pump and Ice Beam give Suicune almost perfect coverage, only failing to hit Starmie and opposing Suicune for at least neutral damage.
  • Calm Mind allows Suicune to act as a threatening win condition, OHKOing bulky Tyranitar with Hydro Pump after a single Calm Mind boost and Metagross and Raikou after two. Ice Beam also 2HKOes Latias after a Calm Mind boost.
  • 152 Speed EVs allows Suicune to outspeed Jolly Tyranitar, though 228 Speed EVs will allow it to outspeed Jolly Metagross at the cost of reducing HP or Special Attack. Lum Berry helps Suicune maintain sweeps in the face of Thunder Wave or the rare Sleep Powder or Hypnosis, though while Leftovers can help to maintain its longevity in exchange for being more vulnerable to status. effects.
  • Once Suicune has used Calm Mind, the opponent will be forced to answer it with physical attacks, including Explosion, which Suicune can scout for and punish with well-timed Protects.
  • Marowak is a great partner for Suicune as it draws away Thunderbolts from Zapdos and Raikou with Lightningrod, giving it opportunities to use Calm Mind. Inversely, Zapdos and Raikou also make good partners for Suicune as they pressure Starmie and opposing Suicune. Pokemon like Heracross, Metagross, and Tauros that can help pressure special walls such as Snorlax and Latias will also greatly assist with Suicune's cleaning ability, while they also appreciate Suicune's ability to delete Steelix and Arcanine. Fast revenge killers like Latias, Raikou, and Gengar work well to pick off low HP foes.
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[SET]
name: Calm Mind
move 1: Hydro Pump
move 2: Ice Beam
move 3: Calm Mind
move 4: Protect
item: Lum Berry / Leftovers
ability: Pressure
nature: Modest
evs: 104 HP / 252 SpA / 152 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
  • Suicune's role as a bulky Water-type with Calm Mind makes it one of the tier's most potent simultaneous offensive and defensive threats. It can outspeed Metagross and Tyranitar, unlike Swampert, and is considerably bulkier than Starmie.
  • Hydro Pump and Ice Beam give Suicune almost perfect coverage, only failing to hit Starmie and opposing Suicune for at least neutral damage.
  • Calm Mind allows Suicune to act as a threatening win condition, OHKOing bulky Tyranitar with Hydro Pump after a Calm Mind boost and Metagross and Raikou after two. Ice Beam also 2HKOs 2HKOes Latias after a Calm Mind boost.
  • 152 Speed EVs allows Suicune to outspeed Jolly Tyranitar, though 228 Speed EVs will allow it to outspeed Jolly Metagross at the cost of reducing HP or Special Attack. Lum Berry helps Suicune maintain sweeps in the face of Thunder Wave or the rare Sleep Powder or Hypnosis, while Leftovers can help to maintain its longevity in exchange for being vulnerable to status.
  • Once Suicune has used Calm Mind, the opponent if you mean opposing player, opponent is fine; if you mean opposing pokemon, swap opponent with foe will be forced to answer it with physical attacks, including Explosion, which Suicune can scout for and punish with a well-timed Protects.
  • Marowak is a great partner for Suicune, (ac) as it draws away Thunderbolts from Zapdos and Raikou with Lightningrod, giving it Suicune opportunities to use Calm Mind. Inversely, Zapdos and Raikou also make good partners for Suicune, (ac) as they pressure Starmie and opposing Suicune. Pokemon like Heracross, Metagross, and Tauros that can help pressure special walls such as Snorlax and Latias, (ac) will also greatly assisting with Suicune's cleaning ability, while they also appreciate Suicune's ability to delete defeat Steelix and Arcanine. Fast revenge killers like Latias, Raikou, and Gengar work well to pick off low HP foes.
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