Project Metagame Workshop

[KaenSoul]

After seeing all this I decide to make my own post. Here we go.
Nihilslave's Better BH Exploration Notes II
Infinite Fusion

Premise:

• Choose a Pokémon as usual to be the Body Part, while giving it the name of a Pokémon as nickname which is to be the Head Part of the fusioned Pokémon
• Fusioned Pokémon's base stats of H P, SpA, SpD = That base stats of Head * 2 / 3 + That base stats of Body * 1 / 3
• Fusioned Pokémon's base stats of Atk, Def, Spe = That base stats of Head * 1 / 3 + That base stats of Body * 2 / 3
• Fusioned Pokémon's Types include: First Type of Head + Second (or First if no Second) Type of Body
• Fusioned Pokémon's available Abilities include: First Ability of Head, Second Ability of Body, and Hidden Ability of Head
• Fusioned Pokémon's available Moves include: ALL moves learnt by Head and Body

Optional Premise:

• Pokémon in Formes cannot be used
• Special Fusions. E.g. Calyrex + Spectrier = Calyrex-Shadow
• Pokémon's Total EV limit is doubled, i.e. 1020
• National Dex (I know it's not gonna happen)

Rules (With all premises above)
Ruleset: Obtainable, +Past, +Unobtainable, +Unreleased, Team Species Preview, Nickname Preview, !!EV Limit = 1020, Species Clause, HP Percentage Mod, Cancel Mod, Endless Battle Clause, Sketch Post-Gen 7 Moves, Dynamax Clause, Terastal Clause, OHKO Clause, Evasion Moves Clause
Banlist: Cramorant, Shedinja, Moody, Shadow Tag, Baton Pass, Geomancy, Revival Blessing
Restricted: Eternatus, Groudon, Kyogre

Q&As:
Q: Why are the stats and ability contributions asymmetric for Head and Body?
A: To make teambuilding more interesting. For example, if you wanna have an imposter with high hp, Blissey + Ditto should be the choice. But since Imposter is the Hidden Ability of Ditto, you have to put it into the Head slot in order to have that, which inevitably restricts the total base hp of the fusioned pokemon.

Q: How is this even related to "Better BH"?
A: As you can see, the trend of gamefreak designing new Pokemon, Moves, and Abilities is that, they design a lot of broken things, and then combine them to make sure no Pokemon has all of broken Stats, broken Moves, and broken Abilities together. (Actually some even do have, see Zacian-C.) The fact is, gamefreak won't take "how hackmons will be like if we add this broken move" into any account. If this continues, Hackmons formats will surely be harder and harder to balance. Pure Hackmons is already destroyed by such trend, while Balancd Hackmons will be done sooner or later imo.
A: However in Infinite Fusion, you are still kinda free to choose from all the Abilities and Moves like in Hackmons, while the meta itself already inherently has gamefreak's "balancing design" by its mechanics. Thus you can see the thinnest ever banlist in OM (I don't check others lol. But it's surely thin enough.) Plus we doubled the EV limit for each Pokemon, which just makes it a perfect Hackmons alternative.

Q: Why is this an Uber-based metagame?
A: I believe it will be too hard to balance if we make it OU-based + I want it to be a BH alt.

Q: How does Species Clause work here?
A: You will usually have 12 species in your team counting both Heads and Bodies. And the Species Clause check is based on that. Self-Fusion will only count that species once tho.

Q: Eternatus, Groudon, and Kyogre and restricted, does this mean they are banned from fusion with other Pokemon?
A: Nope. We have such thing called Special Fusion so when you fusion Eternatus with Eternatus you will get Eternatus-Eternamax, which should undoubtedly be banned. So this restriction list just means we banned Eternatus-Eternamax, Groudon-Primal, and Kyogre-Primal.

Replays:
Electric Surge
Trick Room
Sleeptalk
Offense War
Balance War
Stall War

This seems too complex for an OM, seems more fitting for a solo mod.

 

[Yveltal for PU]

Any kind of fusion OM I'd think needs to have a focus on simplicity. This is why I'd stick to the following

Frantic Fusions

Frantic Fusions is a metagame where a Pokemon gains the traits of a Pokemon in its Nickname: It gets the fused Pokemon's primary ability as a secondary ability, its primary type as the Pokemon's secondary type, its movepool, and its highest stat, ascending from HP to Speed. If you're shiny, you inherit the secondary type in your own slot and its secondary ability in your own as well.
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Rules
Mechanic: One Pokemon gains the traits of a Pokemon in its nickname, such as its primary ability as its secondary, its primary typing as its secondary, movepool, and its highest stat.
Banlist:

Banlist

Pokemon:

• Arceus
• Blissey
• Calyrex-Ice
• Calyrex-Shadow
• Chansey
• Chien-Pao
• Chi-Yu
• Dialga
• Dialga-Origin
• Eternatus
• Flutter Mane
• Giratina
• Giratina-Origin
• Groudon
• Hoopa-U
• Iron Bundle
• Iron Hands
• Koraidon
• Kyogre
• Landorus
• Magearna
• Mewtwo
• Miraidon
• Palafin
• Palkia
• Palkia-Origin
• Pikachu
• Rayquaza
• Slaking
• Spectrier
• Ting-Lu
• Toxapex
• Ursaluna
• Urshifu
• Zacian
• Zacian-Crowned
• Zamazenta
• Zamazenta-Crowned

Abilities:

• Arena Trap
• Contrary
• Huge Power
• Imposter
• Pure Power
• Shadow Tag
• Speed Boost

Moves:

• Baton Pass
• Belly Drum
• Extreme Speed
• Last Respects
• Rage Fist
• Revival Blessing
• Shed Tail
• Shell Smash
• Spore
• Transform
• Quiver Dance

Items:

• King's Rock
• Damp Rock
• Quick Claw

Bans: Standard Clause, Sleep Clause, Fusion Clause*
Fusion Clause - Two Pokemon cannot share a donor. If a Pokemon is banned, it cannot be used as a donor or a fusee.

This allows for Pokemon to obtain a variable set of new tools, rather it be from a mediocre stat one Pokemon has being improved, a new typing that can help it offensively or defensively, or a movepool being expanded.

Sample Sets

Electrode (Glastrier) @ Choice Band
Ability: Chilling Neigh
Tera Type: Electric
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant / Jolly Nature
- Icicle Crash
- Wild Charge
- Close Combat
- Volt Switch

Typing:

Stats: 100 / 145 / 130 / 65 / 110 / 150

Glastrier turns into a slower breaker who can be exploited most of the time into a very fast wallbreaker who has amazing coverage, with Volt Switch to also make momentum.


Annihilape (Dragapult) @ Spell Tag / Leftovers
Ability: Infiltrator
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant / Jolly Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Substitute
- Dragon Darts
- Shadow Claw

Typing:

Stats: 88 / 115 / 75 / 100 / 75 / 142

Dragapult now gains reliable physical Ghost-type STAB in Shadow Claw, enhancing its Dragon Dance set but at the cost of a 115 Attack stat compared to 120.


Clodsire (Wo-Chien) @ Leftovers
Ability: Tablets of Ruin
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
- Knock Off
- Toxic
- Spikes / Ruination
- Recover

Typing:

Stats: 130 / 85 / 100 / 95 / 135 / 70

Wo-Chien obtains reliable recovery, a solid defensive typing, and hazards, making it even better at making progress with its great bulk and massive selection of utility.

Council
hidin
zastra
Orangex
We are open for more people to join! DM me on Discord at hidinn.

Questions
- Is there any alternative way for stats to be handled? We would like to avoid averaging stats as its quite complex, but if there's any other solution you think would help the metagame idea be better let us know!
- Should we allow for the secondary typing / secondary / hidden ability of a donor to be legal on a fusion through something like a shiny?
- Is the idea creative and enticing to others? Are there any other problems that should be looked at? Is it an improvement on the original idea?

Any feedback would be appreciated, thank you for reading!

Mostly I like this because it's pretty intuitive and doesn't always require you to use a particular command whenever uou need to see a Pokemon's stats, and by not giving any method to use a fusion's secondary type or other non-primary abilities, does make the game a lot simpler. I would definitely play this.

 

[Komatito]

Ok so no fusions.

Fusiomons

Metagame Premise: This Metagame is to let many people use the fusion Pokémon in competitive battles and test them on their matchmaking skills.

Explanation: To fuse a pokemon, nickname the ‘body’ the ‘head‘. The base Atk,Def, and Speed stats are taken from the body and the Hp,Sp.def, and Sp.atk are from the head. Pokémon will be able to choose from any possible ability for either part of the fusion. The primary type is taken from primary type of the body, and the secondary type from the secondary type of the head. Also, Pokemon will be limited to only 2 moves from each side of the fusion. Weight and multiple other competitive related characteristics will be average(All pokemon are Genderless).If the body is affected by eviolite, its fusion will also be affected by it.(This is why Pikachu is banned because light ball is treated like eviolte)

Potential Good Picks:
(This is an OU meta)

Clodsire (Corviknight) Having access to many supporter moves such as Defog,Tailwind,Taunt, Roost, and U-turn from the corviknight side and Haze, entry hazards and yawn from the Clodsire side, along with unaware. however its supporter role is sabotaged by its typing: Steel/Poison.

Blissey (Avalugg-Hisui) This fusion’s defensive stats are very high, with 255 Hp, 135 Sp. Def, and 184 Def! It also has access to STAB(like it matters) rapid spin, multiple recovery moves and stealth rocks. However, it’s defensive typing isn’t very good (Ice/Normal) and it has a 35 base speed stat. It even gets access to natural cure! Blissey is also good in many other fusions, but this one stuck out to me the most.

Lurantis(Zamazenta) I suspect many other lurantis fusions will be good, but this one will likely be dominant, despite its mediocre typing (Grass/Fighting). It’s big power comes from contrary close combat, boosting its def, which will increase the power of Body press even more. It gets access to synthesis and leech life from lurantis. I suspect Contrary will be banned like moody, nobody can use it , unless in Ubers or PH, which will Give a reason to unban Enamorus-I.

Iron Moth(Skeledirge) Having one of the highest Sp. Atk stats in the meta, combining it with STAB torch song and Quiver Dance, This fusion would be really OP in the meta, despite keeping Iron Moth’s not-the-best typing, it makes up for it by being able to run booster energy quark drive or throat spray unaware.

Ban List: All Ubers and ,levitate,earth eater, and the following: belly drum
On the radar: unburden


Questions for the Community:
1: If I have a Mimikyu fusion with disguise, will it still activate?
2: For Pokemon with forms that change in-battle, do they still form change?

Expertise
Metagame Premise: Pokemon gain certain moves depending on the mon’s best stat.


Information: Pokémon with their attack stat as their best one get all physical moves, moves that increase the power of physical moves, and shell side arm. Sp. Atk as the best stat gets all special moves and moves that increase the power of special moves. Defense gets status moves that aren’t directly increasing Sp. Def, and vice versa for Sp. Def. Speed gets all attacking moves, and Hp gets all status moves.


Why I made this: I made this to increase the viability of certain high-stat low-tier Pokémon such as and , and boosting some Pokémon the little boost needed to be broken ().


Potential Bans, Threats, and Good Picks:

fast offensive Pokémon like these would dominate the metagame, with dragon darts likely being banned.


bulky pokemon like this getting many status and recovery moves, turns into an insane sweeper with victory/quiver dance and chansey getting toxic again


getting body press and cotton guard just is bannable, and it gets hex for ghost types.
sets that include torch song, thunder cage, air slash, and water shuruken are likely going to be very good in the meta
getting a bunch of punch moves, combined with iron fist, turns it into a physical sweeper, despite its ice/fighting typing.

Banlist

• annihilape
• arceus
• arena trap
• baton pass
• calyrex_ice
• chien-pao
• chi-yu
• dialga
• espathra
• Eternatus
• flutter mane
• giratina
• groudon
• iron bundle
• koraidon
• kyogre
• landorus
• last respects
• magearna
• mew
• mewtwo
• miraidon
• moody
• palafin
• palkia
• rayquaza
• regieleki
• revival blessing
• shadow tag
• shed tail
• spectrier
• urshifu single strike
• urshifu rapid strike
• volcarona
• zacian-hero
• zacian-crowned
• zamazenta-hero
• zamazenta-crowned

Q&A:
1: Q: if there is a tie, what stat is considered the best?
A: In the case of a tie a Pokémon gets the moves from both categories, so because mew ties with everything, it gets all moves

 

[Taylor Alison Swift]

Okay so after a very fruitful discussion in the OM Room I figured it was optimal to put the idea here and see what further interest it can garner. Without further ado, I present to you...

BONUS (TERA) TYPE
Name is a WIP​

Have you ever wondered what it would be like if a Pokemon could have another type added to their original typing? Well that is exactly what this OM aims to do!

Council
kenn
TaxFraud
Hightide

Rules:
Mechanic: A new typing is added to a Pokemon's original typing based on their Tera Type
Clauses: Standard OMs, Evasion Clause, Sleep Moves Clause, Terastal Clause

Bans:
Pokemon

Hide

Arceus
Calyrex-Shadow
Calyrex-Ice
Dialga
Dialga-Origin
Eternatus
Flutter Mane
Giratina
Giratina-Origin
Groudon
Iron Bundle
Koraidon
Kyogre
Mewtwo
Miraidon
Palkia
Palkia-Origin
Rayquaza
Spectrier
Zacian
Zacian-Crowned
Zamazenta-Crowned

Abilities
Arena Trap
Moody
Shadow Tag

Moves
Baton Pass
Shed Tail
Last Respects

Strategy
Pokemon allowed to gain a third typing can be incredible for offensive behemoths to have STAB coverage or for defensive stalwarts to cover up weaknesses they may have previously had.

Q&A
TBD

Examples

Set

Garchomp @ Lum Berry
Ability: Rough Skin
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Liquidation
- Swords Dance
- Earthquake
- Outrage
With the ability to not only gain STAB on Liquidation, but also dampen its Ice weakness, Garchomp is a bulky setup sweeper that can power through quite a few walls with ease.

Set

Iron Valiant @ Booster Energy
Ability: Quark Drive
Tera Type: Electric
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Calm Mind
- Moonblast
- Focus Blast / Aura Sphere
- Thunderbolt
Iron Valiant loves to finally gain STAB on its most common coverage move while also gaining a Flying neutrality.

Set

Zapdos @ Leftovers
Ability: Static
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Volt Switch
- Hurricane
- Roost
- Discharge
With only 1 weakness in Fire, Zapdos is ready to wall anything that dares to get past it.

Watchlist

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Dragapult
Dragonite
Enamorus
Espathra
Iron Valiant
Kingambit
Noivern
Regieleki
Volcarona
Zamazenta

 

[KaenSoul]

Okay so after a very fruitful discussion in the OM Room I figured it was optimal to put the idea here and see what further interest it can garner. Without further ado, I present to you...

BONUS (TERA) TYPE
Name is a WIP

Have you ever wondered what it would be like if a Pokemon could have another type added to their original typing? Well that is exactly what this OM aims to do!

Council
kenn
TaxFraud
Hightide

Rules:
Mechanic: A new typing is added to a Pokemon's original typing based on their Tera Type
Clauses: Standard OMs, Evasion Clause, Sleep Moves Clause, Terastal Clause

Bans:
Pokemon

Hide

Koraidon
Miraidon
Espathra
Iron Bundle
Flutter Mane
Arceus
Calyrex-Shadow
Calyrex-Ice
Dialga
Dialga-Origin
Eternatus
Giratina
Giratina-Origin
Groudon
Kyogre
Mewtwo
Palkia
Palkia-Origin
Rayquaza
Zacian
Zacian-Crowned
Zamazenta-Crowned
Regieleki
Spectrier

Abilities
Arena Trap
Moody
Shadow Tag

Moves
Baton Pass
Shed Tail
Last Respects

Strategy
Pokemon allowed to gain a third typing can be incredible for offensive behemoths to have STAB coverage or for defensive stalwarts to cover up weaknesses they may have previously had.

Q&A
TBD

Examples

Set

Garchomp @ Lum Berry
Ability: Rough Skin
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Liquidation
- Swords Dance
- Earthquake
- Outrage
With the ability to not only gain STAB on Liquidation, but also dampen its Ice weakness, Garchomp is a bulky setup sweeper that can power through quite a few walls with ease.

Set

Kingambit @ Leftovers
Ability: Defiant
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Kowtow Cleave
- Tera Blast
- Sucker Punch
Having access to Tera Blast, should it work like I think and hope it will, gives Kingambit not only powerful STAB coverage, but an amazing defensive typing with Fairy added to the mix.

Set

Zapdos @ Leftovers
Ability: Static
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Volt Switch
- Hurricane
- Roost
- Discharge
With only 1 weakness in Fire, Zapdos is ready to wall anything that dares to get past it.

Watchlist

Hide

Dragapult
Dragonite
Enamorus
Iron Valiant
Kingambit
Noivern
Zamazenta

Well, we have Tera Donation now, so I kind of feel like both formats are a bit too similar to coexist, you are even using the same Tera Blast mechanic.

Ok so no fusions.
Expertise
Metagame Premise: Pokemon gain certain moves depending on the mon’s best stat.


Information: Pokémon with their attack stat as their best one get all physical moves, moves that increase the power of physical moves, and shell side arm. Sp. Atk as the best stat gets all special moves and moves that increase the power of special moves. Defense gets status moves that aren’t directly increasing Sp. Def, and vice versa for Sp. Def. Speed gets all attacking moves, and Hp gets all status moves.


Why I made this: I made this to increase the viability of certain high-stat low-tier Pokémon such as and , and boosting some Pokémon the little boost needed to be broken ().


Potential Bans, Threats, and Good Picks:

fast offensive Pokémon like these would dominate the metagame, with dragon darts likely being banned.


bulky pokemon like this getting many status and recovery moves, turns into an insane sweeper with victory/quiver dance and chansey getting toxic again


getting body press and cotton guard just is bannable, and it gets hex for ghost types.
sets that include torch song, thunder cage, air slash, and water shuruken are likely going to be very good in the meta
getting a bunch of punch moves, combined with iron fist, turns it into a physical sweeper, despite its ice/fighting typing.

Banlist

• annihilape
• arceus
• arena trap
• baton pass
• calyrex_ice
• chien-pao
• chi-yu
• dialga
• espathra
• Eternatus
• flutter mane
• giratina
• groudon
• iron bundle
• koraidon
• kyogre
• landorus
• last respects
• magearna
• mew
• mewtwo
• miraidon
• moody
• palafin
• palkia
• rayquaza
• regieleki
• revival blessing
• shadow tag
• spectrier
• urshifu single strike
• urshifu rapid strike
• volcarona
• zacian-hero
• zacian-crowned
• zamazenta-hero
• zamazenta-crowned

Q&A:
1: Q: if there is a tie, what stat is considered the best?
A: In the case of a tie a Pokémon gets the moves from both categories, so because mew ties with everything, it gets all moves

This seems too excessive, like may as well allow everything to get any move, and we already have enough movepool expansion formats for that.

 

[Cuddly]

Set

Kingambit @ Leftovers
Ability: Defiant
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Kowtow Cleave
- Tera Blast
- Sucker Punch
Having access to Tera Blast, should it work like I think and hope it will, gives Kingambit not only powerful STAB coverage, but an amazing defensive typing with Fairy added to the mix.

Tera Blast only works if you Terastallize.

 

[Komatito]

This seems too excessive, like may as well allow everything to get any move, and we already have enough movepool expansion formats for that.

The only mon to get all moves is Mew, and that’s why it’s banned

 

[Taylor Alison Swift]

Well, we have Tera Donation now, so I kind of feel like both formats are a bit too similar to coexist, you are even using the same Tera Blast mechanic.

Tera Blast only works if you Terastallize.

After discussing it with in the hills, as well as TaxFraud and Hightide, Terastalization is banned and therefore Tera Blast won't be anything but a Normal-type 80 BP Special move. This may actually be better since things like Kingambit can be kept in line a bit more while others such as Volcarona, Regieleki, and Espathra can be unbanned and given a chance to see if they are still worthy of a ban.

 

[Wes8888]

I saw that 350 Cup got re-approved, so I was wondering if anyone else would want to see linked come back. Ik it's not really workshopping a new metagame, but I wanted to gauge interest. A lot of new moves have been added into the games that I think would make it interesting and worthwhile. For those of you that don't know, the premise of linked is that moveslots 1 and 2 are linked, meaning that when one of the linked moves is used, the other linked move is used immediately after. You can find a more in depth explanation of the mechanic here. Here are some examples:


Nasty Plot + Make It Rain

Negates the stat drop to make NP Gholdengo even more threatening.


Trick Room + Chilly Reception

Sets up Trick Room and immediately pivots to an abuser such as...


Swords Dance + Facade

+2 STAB Guts Facades look really strong, and it has great coverage too.


Lava Plume + Infernal Parade

This link is admittedly pretty gimmicky, but if you manage to get a burn it will do exceptionally high damage. Alternatively you could run...


Will-O-Wisp/Thunder Wave + Hex

Cripple your opponent with a debilitating status effect and hit them with a 130 bp stab move on the same turn.


Gigaton Hammer + Filler

If Gigaton Hammer works like other recharge moves did in gen 7, that means tink can click it every turn. Speaking of recharge moves...


Hyper Beam/Hydro Cannon/any other recharge move + Filler

This allows you to spam these high BP moves every turn since the recharge occurs during the time you would use the second move in the link.

And lastly for UT


Brave Bird + Roost/Acrobatics + Brave Bird

This allows talonflame to use a priority brave bird and then return to full health to potentially activate gale wings again OR use a 110 bp move and a 120 bp move, each with boosted priority, consecutively in the same turn.

There are way more possibilities; this is a meta that encourages creativity. If this were to get approved, bans and watchlist would likely look something like this:

Banlist

Pokemon

Annilhape
Arceus (All Forms)
Calyrex-Shadow
Calyrex-Ice
Chi-Yu
Chien-Pao
Dialga
Dialga-Origin
Espartha
Eternatus
Giratina
Giratina-Origin
Groudon
Koraidon
Kyogre
Magearna
Miraidon
Palafin
Palafin-Hero
Palkia
Palkia-Origin
Rayquaza
Urshifu
Zacian
Zacian-Crowned
Zamazenta
Zamazenta-Crowned

Abilities

Arena Trap
Moody
Shadow Tag

Items

King's Rock

Moves

Baton Pass
Last Respects
Shed Tail

Restricted Moves (moves that can't be used in slots 1 or 2)

Baneful Bunker
Bounce
Dig
Dive
Fly
Phantom Force
Protect
Sky Drop (If and when it gets added back inti the games)
Spiky Shield

Watchlist

Chlorophyll
Flutter Mane
Iron Bundle
Iron Moth
Kingambit
Sand Rush
Slush Rush
Swift Swim
Unburden
Ursaluna
Volcarona
Terastalization

If you want to see linked return, react with like or love. If you don't want to see it return, react with angry. This will make it easier for me to gauge interest. Thanks for reading if you made it this far :)

Edit: I added a few things to the banlist that I missed. If you have any ideas for the watchlist lmk.

 

[Fragmented]

No idea if this has been subbed before. I'm throwing it out there anyway.

All Maxed Out
Sick and tired of set-up spam? Enjoy fishing for crits? Want to go back to the days where every battle is 200+ turns? Welcome to All Maxed Out, a superpowered twist on a familiar metagame., where set-up becomes redundant and crits are super impactful. Everything is (should be) balanced as everything is super-boosted.
And when everyone's super, no one will be.

Rules
Mechanic: Everything comes in with +6 to all stats (not evasion and accuracy). Abilities and field effects activate after the omniboost.
Clauses: Standard OMs

Bans
Pokemon:

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Annihilape
Arceus
Calyrex-Ice
Calyrex-Shadow
Chien-Pao
Chi-Yu
Dialga
Eternatus
Flutter Mane
Giratina
Groudon
Iron Bundle
Koraidon
Kygore
Landorus
Meowscarada
Mewtwo
Miraidon
Palafin
Palkia
Rayquaza
Regieleki
Spectrier
Urshifu-Single-Strike
Urshifu-Rapid-Strike
Zacian
Zacian-Crowned
Zamazenta-Crowned

Abilities:
Arena Trap
Shadow Tag
Unaware

Moves:
Darkest Lariat (if it becomes available)
Last Respects
Power Trip
Sacred Sword
Shed Tail
Stored Power

Q&A
Why not give the +6 boost to Evasion and Accuracy as well?
If your boosts get hazed away, you are never going to land your moves.

Strategy
Anything that can drop stat stages is good. Abilities like Moody, Moxie and Speed Boost become redundant while abilities like Big Pecks, Super Luck, and Shell Armor have increased viability. Stat-lowering moves like Screech and Metal Sound might see use to cripple opposing Pokemon, threatening big damage if they choose to stay in. Set-up sweepers will become all-out attackers, running the coverage they could never fit in three slots.

Its whole shtick as a Stored Power Speed Boost sweeper is gone, but it can still Lumina Crash to make progress.
Same as Espathra, there is no merit to setting up and no Stored Power, so it'll just have to resort to dealing as much damage as possible.

Watchlist
(Lumina Crash scary)
Clear Smog (forgot Haze clears stats for both sides)
Frost Breath/Storm Throw
Baton Pass (sub pass might be problematic)
The Terastal Phenomenon

Potential Unbans
Spectrier (NP sets become irrelevant)
Zacian (doesn't really benefit from the attack raise from Intrepid Sword anymore, but banded could hit very hard)
Zacian-Crowned (same as above, but a bigger stat stick)
Zamazenta-Crowned (same as above, big stat stick)

 

[Hpdsd]

No idea if this has been subbed before. I'm throwing it out there anyway.

All Maxed Out
Sick and tired of set-up spam? Enjoy fishing for crits? Want to go back to the days where every battle is 200+ turns? Welcome to All Maxed Out, a superpowered twist on a familiar metagame., where set-up becomes redundant and crits are super impactful. Everything is (should be) balanced as everything is super-boosted.
And when everyone's super, no one will be.

Rules
Mechanic: Everything comes in with +6 to all stats (not evasion and accuracy). Abilities and field effects activate after the omniboost.
Clauses: Standard OMs

Bans
Pokemon:

Hide

Annihilape
Arceus
Calyrex-Ice
Calyrex-Shadow
Chien-Pao
Chi-Yu
Dialga
Eternatus
Flutter Mane
Giratina
Groudon
Iron Bundle
Koraidon
Kygore
Landorus
Mewtwo
Miraidon
Palafin
Palkia
Rayquaza
Regieleki
Spectrier
Urshifu-Single-Strike
Urshifu-Rapid-Strike
Zacian
Zacian-Crowned
Zamazenta-Crowned

Abilities:
Arena Trap
Shadow Tag
Unaware

Moves:
Darkest Lariat (if it becomes available)
Last Respects
Power Trip
Shed Tail
Stored Power

Q&A
Why not give the +6 boost to Evasion and Accuracy as well?
If your boosts get hazed away, you are never going to land your moves.

Strategy
Anything that can drop stat stages is good. Abilities like Moody, Moxie and Speed Boost become redundant while abilities like Big Pecks, Super Luck, and Shell Armor have increased viability. Stat-lowering moves like Screech and Metal Sound might see use to cripple opposing Pokemon, threatening big damage if they choose to stay in. Set-up sweepers will become all-out attackers, running the coverage they could never fit in three slots.

Its whole shtick as a Stored Power Speed Boost sweeper is gone, but it can still Lumina Crash to make progress.
Same as Espathra, there is no merit to setting up and no Stored Power, so it'll just have to resort to dealing as much damage as possible.
Anything at +6 should be handled with caution, and when Toxapex can haze away your defense boosts, you best switch out.

Watchlist
(Lumina Crash scary)
(Flower Trick scary)
Haze/Clear Smog
Frost Breath/Storm Throw
Baton Pass (sub pass might be problematic)
The Terastal Phenomenon

Potential Unbans
Spectrier (NP sets become irrelevant)
Zacian (doesn't really benefit from the attack raise from Intrepid Sword anymore, but banded could hit very hard)
Zacian-Crowned (same as above, but a bigger stat stick)
Zamazenta-Crowned (same as above, big stat stick)

Quick note, Storm Throw isn’t learned by anything at the moment. And I feel like Meowscarada should start banned since:
+6 252 Atk Choice Band Meowscarada Flower Trick vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Corviknight on a critical hit: 159-187 (39.8 - 46.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
This is the bulkiest quad resist in the meta with reliable recovery. This has no business being legal.

 

[Hiusi guy]

Moves:
Darkest Lariat (if it becomes available)

May I also recommend banning sacred sword for having the same affect but actually on usable pokemon, mainly gallade and samurott-h

 

[chartung17]

Anything that can drop stat stages is good.

Not true. Going from +6 to +4 is effectively a 25% drop, while going from +0 to -1 in standard is a 33% drop. Stat drops are not even half as good as usual, apart from moves that clear all stat boosts.

There's only one Super Luck user, but with Scope Lens it has two guaranteed crit STABs that hit very hard:
+6 252+ Atk Honchkrow Night Slash vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Arceus on a critical hit: 466-549 (104.9 - 123.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+6 252 SpA Honchkrow Air Cutter vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Arceus on a critical hit: 432-508 (97.2 - 114.4%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO

Focus Energy will be very powerful, since it turns every move into a guaranteed crit (if you have Scope Lens).

 

[KaenSoul]

No idea if this has been subbed before. I'm throwing it out there anyway.

All Maxed Out
Sick and tired of set-up spam? Enjoy fishing for crits? Want to go back to the days where every battle is 200+ turns? Welcome to All Maxed Out, a superpowered twist on a familiar metagame., where set-up becomes redundant and crits are super impactful. Everything is (should be) balanced as everything is super-boosted.
And when everyone's super, no one will be.

Rules
Mechanic: Everything comes in with +6 to all stats (not evasion and accuracy). Abilities and field effects activate after the omniboost.
Clauses: Standard OMs

Bans
Pokemon:

Hide

Annihilape
Arceus
Calyrex-Ice
Calyrex-Shadow
Chien-Pao
Chi-Yu
Dialga
Eternatus
Flutter Mane
Giratina
Groudon
Iron Bundle
Koraidon
Kygore
Landorus
Meowscarada
Mewtwo
Miraidon
Palafin
Palkia
Rayquaza
Regieleki
Spectrier
Urshifu-Single-Strike
Urshifu-Rapid-Strike
Zacian
Zacian-Crowned
Zamazenta-Crowned

Abilities:
Arena Trap
Shadow Tag
Unaware

Moves:
Darkest Lariat (if it becomes available)
Last Respects
Power Trip
Sacred Sword
Shed Tail
Stored Power

Q&A
Why not give the +6 boost to Evasion and Accuracy as well?
If your boosts get hazed away, you are never going to land your moves.

Strategy
Anything that can drop stat stages is good. Abilities like Moody, Moxie and Speed Boost become redundant while abilities like Big Pecks, Super Luck, and Shell Armor have increased viability. Stat-lowering moves like Screech and Metal Sound might see use to cripple opposing Pokemon, threatening big damage if they choose to stay in. Set-up sweepers will become all-out attackers, running the coverage they could never fit in three slots.

Its whole shtick as a Stored Power Speed Boost sweeper is gone, but it can still Lumina Crash to make progress.
Same as Espathra, there is no merit to setting up and no Stored Power, so it'll just have to resort to dealing as much damage as possible.

Watchlist
(Lumina Crash scary)
Clear Smog (forgot Haze clears stats for both sides)
Frost Breath/Storm Throw
Baton Pass (sub pass might be problematic)
The Terastal Phenomenon

Potential Unbans
Spectrier (NP sets become irrelevant)
Zacian (doesn't really benefit from the attack raise from Intrepid Sword anymore, but banded could hit very hard)
Zacian-Crowned (same as above, but a bigger stat stick)
Zamazenta-Crowned (same as above, big stat stick)

I don't really like how this sounds, it would be like standard, but no one uses boosting moves, that's about it, as banning the stuff that gets around the boosts like Sacred Sword and Always crit moves just make the format no different from "we just don't use boosting moves" and there is no way around that anyway as anything that interacts with this mechanic has to be banned to keep it balanced, so in the end nothing really changes.

 

[Blastfury0614]

I saw that 350 Cup got re-approved, so I was wondering if anyone else would want to see linked come back. Ik it's not really workshopping a new metagame, but I wanted to gauge interest. A lot of new moves have been added into the games that I think would make it interesting and worthwhile. For those of you that don't know, the premise of linked is that moveslots 1 and 2 are linked, meaning that when one of the linked moves is used, the other linked move is used immediately after. You can find a more in depth explanation of the mechanic here. Here are some examples:


Nasty Plot + Make It Rain

Negates the stat drop to make NP Gholdengo even more threatening.


Trick Room + Chilly Reception

Sets up Trick Room and immediately pivots to an abuser such as...


Swords Dance + Facade

+2 STAB Guts Facades look really strong, and it has great coverage too.


Lava Plume + Infernal Parade

This link is admittedly pretty gimmicky, but if you manage to get a burn it will do exceptionally high damage. Alternatively you could run...


Will-O-Wisp/Thunder Wave + Hex

Cripple your opponent with a debilitating status effect and hit them with a 130 bp stab move on the same turn.


Gigaton Hammer + Filler

If Gigaton Hammer works like other recharge moves did in gen 7, that means tink can click it every turn. Speaking of recharge moves...


Hyper Beam/Hydro Cannon/any other recharge move + Filler

This allows you to spam these high BP moves every turn since the recharge occurs during the time you would use the second move in the link.

And lastly for UT


Brave Bird + Roost/Acrobatics + Brave Bird

This allows talonflame to use a priority brave bird and then return to full health to potentially activate gale wings again OR use a 110 bp move and a 120 bp move, each with boosted priority, consecutively in the same turn.

There are way more possibilities; this is a meta that encourages creativity. If this were to get approved, bans and watchlist would likely look something like this:

Banlist

Pokemon

Annilhape
Arceus (All Forms)
Calyrex-Shadow
Calyrex-Ice
Chi-Yu
Chien-Pao
Dialga
Dialga-Origin
Espartha
Eternatus
Giratina
Giratina-Origin
Groudon
Koraidon
Kyogre
Magearna
Miraidon
Palafin
Palafin-Hero
Palkia
Palkia-Origin
Rayquaza
Urshifu
Zacian
Zacian-Crowned
Zamazenta
Zamazenta-Crowned

Abilities

Arena Trap
Moody
Shadow Tag

Items

King's Rock

Moves

Baton Pass
Last Respects
Shed Tail

Restricted Moves (moves that can't be used in slots 1 or 2)

Baneful Bunker
Bounce
Dig
Dive
Fly
Phantom Force
Protect
Sky Drop (If and when it gets added back inti the games)
Spiky Shield

Watchlist

Chlorophyll
Flutter Mane
Iron Bundle
Iron Moth
Kingambit
Sand Rush
Slush Rush
Swift Swim
Unburden
Ursaluna
Volcarona
Terastalization

If you want to see linked return, react with like or love. If you don't want to see it return, react with angry. This will make it easier for me to gauge interest. Thanks for reading if you made it this far :)

Edit: I added a few things to the banlist that I missed. If you have any ideas for the watchlist lmk.

YESSS, I loved playing that format in gen8, plss bring it back!! :)

 

[Komatito]

Too Many STABs

Metagame Premise: Pokemon have their types changed to STAB all their attacking moves.

Rules in context: This OU based metagame is similar to Camomons, but it has some differences, such as status moves don‘T account for the change, it’s easier to make pure types, and Pokémon can have more than two types. This Metagame will help new battlers predict incoming attacks as well.

3 Potentially Good Sets:

Uxie Set

@ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Stealth Rock
- Yawn
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

This specially defensive Uxie set has no weaknesses, leftovers for passive recovery, and rocks/sleep/sub for more tools.

Sneasler Set

@ Eject Pack
Ability: Unburden
Tera Type: Poison
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Dire Claw
- Close Combat
- Night Slash
- Swords Dance

This Sneasler set has 3 weaknesses, but one (ground) is temporarely removed by the air balloon, and when popped, it turns Sneasler into a big sweeper.

Goodra-Hisui Set

@ Leftovers
Ability: Sap Sipper
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpD
Sassy Nature
- Chilling Water
- Bulldoze
- Life Dew
- Acid Armor

This hisuian goodra set has no weaknesses, as it is a water/ground type with sap sipper. It is a similar situation to the Uxie set so…

The Council:
kommotito
if anybody’d want to help me make more metas tell me

Banlist

Pokemon

• Annihilape
• Arceus
• Calyrex-Ice
• Calyrex-Shadow
• Chien-Pao
• Chi-Yu
• Dialga
• Espathra
• Eternatus
• Flutter Mane
• Giratina
• Groudon
• Iron Bundle
• Koraidon
• Kyogre
• Landorus-Incarnate
• Magearna
• Mewtwo
• Miraidon
• Palafin
• Palkia
• Rayquaza
• Regieleki
• Spectrier
• Urshifu-Single-Strike
• Urshifu-Rapid-Strike
• Volcarona
• Zacian-Hero
• Zacian-Crowned
• Zamazenta-Crowned

Abilities

• Arena Trap
• Moody
• Shadow Tag

Moves

• Baton Pass
• Shed Tail
• Last Respects

 

[KaenSoul]

Too Many STABs

Metagame Premise: Pokemon have their types changed to STAB all their attacking moves.

Rules in context: This OU based metagame is similar to Camomons, but it has some differences, such as status moves don‘T account for the change, it’s easier to make pure types, and Pokémon can have more than two types. This Metagame will help new battlers predict incoming attacks as well.

3 Potentially Good Sets:

Uxie Set

@ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Stealth Rock
- Yawn
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

This specially defensive Uxie set has no weaknesses, leftovers for passive recovery, and rocks/sleep/sub for more tools.

Sneasler Set

@ Eject Pack
Ability: Unburden
Tera Type: Poison
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Dire Claw
- Close Combat
- Night Slash
- Swords Dance

This Sneasler set has 3 weaknesses, but one (ground) is temporarely removed by the air balloon, and when popped, it turns Sneasler into a big sweeper.

Goodra-Hisui Set

@ Leftovers
Ability: Sap Sipper
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpD
Sassy Nature
- Chilling Water
- Bulldoze
- Life Dew
- Acid Armor

This hisuian goodra set has no weaknesses, as it is a water/ground type with sap sipper. It is a similar situation to the Uxie set so…

The Council:
kommotito
if anybody’d want to help me make more metas tell me

Banlist

Pokemon

• Annihilape
• Arceus
• Calyrex-Ice
• Calyrex-Shadow
• Chien-Pao
• Chi-Yu
• Dialga
• Espathra
• Eternatus
• Flutter Mane
• Giratina
• Groudon
• Iron Bundle
• Koraidon
• Kyogre
• Landorus-Incarnate
• Magearna
• Mewtwo
• Miraidon
• Palafin
• Palkia
• Rayquaza
• Regieleki
• Spectrier
• Urshifu-Single-Strike
• Urshifu-Rapid-Strike
• Volcarona
• Zacian-Hero
• Zacian-Crowned
• Zamazenta-Crowned

Abilities

• Arena Trap
• Moody
• Shadow Tag

Moves

• Baton Pass
• Shed Tail
• Last Respects

We avoid formats that are too similar to already existing formats, the differences this has with camo aren't big enough to have both coexisting.

 

[Komatito]

We avoid formats that are too similar to already existing formats, the differences this has with camo aren't big enough to have both coexisting.

K but Trademarked and Fortemons are really similar

 

[UT]

K but Trademarked and Fortemons are really similar

Not really; having a status move activate on switch-in vs having an attack apply its secondary effects to your moves are very different in practice, even if they both function by adding a move to the ability slot.

Camo but more typings is going to be very similar.

 

[Komatito]

Speaking of Fortemons and Trademarked, I was gonna post this tomorrow but…

Double Abilities

Metagame Premise: Pokemon are able to put an extra ability into its item slot instead of an item.

In-Detail Rules: As stated in the Metagame Premise, Pokemon are able to have an extra ability. To separate it from AAA, the extra ability can be any ability obtainable on a teammate. This rule autobans stuff like wonder guard but also pretty useless abilities like illuminate.

Clauses: Sleep Moves Clause, Species Clause, Item Clause(rather than items, it’s abilities that are affected), OHKO clause, HP percentage mod

3 Potentially Viable Sets:

Blissey Set

(F) @ Fur Coat
Ability: Natural Cure
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Thunder Wave
- Soft-Boiled
- Stealth Rock
- Hyper Voice

This Blissey set has an estimated 260 defense, which is a great stat, even more than it’s own base HP, making it an unstoppable stall monster!

Walking Wake Set

@ Solar Power
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Flamethrower
- Dragon Pulse
- Hydro Steam
- Hurricane
This Walking Wake set sweeps everything under sun, despite the Solar Power damage. It even has a good Tera fire, resisting it’s previous weakness of Fairy while countering it new weaknesses with the Water/Flying combo and getting STAB Flamethrower in the process.

Maushold Set

@ Stench
Ability: Technician
Tera Type: Normal/Ghost/Fire (no burns)
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Tidy Up
- Population Bomb
- Bullet Seed
- Thunder Wave
In case you didn’t know, stench makes all attacks gain a 10% chance to flinch, so with one tidy up, Maushold turns into a great phisycal sweeper.

Banlist:

Banlist

Pokemon

• Annihilape
• Arceus
• Calyrex-Ice
• Calyrex-Shadow
• Chien-Pao
• Chi-Yu
• Dialga
• Espathra
• Eternatus
• Flutter Mane
• Giratina
• Groudon
• Iron Bundle
• Koraidon
• Kyogre
• Landorus-Incarnate
• Magearna
• Mewtwo
• Miraidon
• Palafin
• Palkia
• Rayquaza
• Regieleki
• Spectrier
• Urshifu-Single-Strike
• Urshifu-Rapid-Strike
• Volcarona
• Zacian-Hero
• Zacian-Crowned
• Zamazenta-Crowned

Abilities

• Arena Trap
• Moody
• Shadow Tag

Moves

• Baton Pass
• Shed Tail
• Last Respects

Bans are subject to change

The Council:
kommotito
if anybody’d want to help me make more metas tell me

 

[UT]

Speaking of Fortemons and Trademarked, I was gonna post this tomorrow but…

Double Abilities

Metagame Premise: Pokemon are able to put an extra ability into its item slot instead of an item.

In-Detail Rules: As stated in the Metagame Premise, Pokemon are able to have an extra ability. To separate it from AAA, the extra ability can be any ability obtainable on a teammate. This rule autobans stuff like wonder guard but also pretty useless abilities like illuminate.

Clauses: Sleep Moves Clause, Species Clause, Item Clause(rather than items, it’s abilities that are affected), OHKO clause, HP percentage mod

3 Potentially Viable Sets:

Blissey Set

(F) @ Fur Coat
Ability: Natural Cure
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Thunder Wave
- Soft-Boiled
- Stealth Rock
- Hyper Voice

This Blissey set has an estimated 260 defense, which is a great stat, even more than it’s own base HP, making it an unstoppable stall monster!

Walking Wake Set

@ Solar Power
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Flamethrower
- Dragon Pulse
- Hydro Steam
- Hurricane
This Walking Wake set sweeps everything under sun, despite the Solar Power damage. It even has a good Tera fire, resisting it’s previous weakness of Fairy while countering it new weaknesses with the Water/Flying combo and getting STAB Flamethrower in the process.

Maushold Set

@ Stench
Ability: Technician
Tera Type: Normal/Ghost/Fire (no burns)
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Tidy Up
- Population Bomb
- Bullet Seed
- Thunder Wave
In case you didn’t know, stench makes all attacks gain a 10% chance to flinch, so with one tidy up, Maushold turns into a great phisycal sweeper.

Banlist:

Banlist

Pokemon

• Annihilape
• Arceus
• Calyrex-Ice
• Calyrex-Shadow
• Chien-Pao
• Chi-Yu
• Dialga
• Espathra
• Eternatus
• Flutter Mane
• Giratina
• Groudon
• Iron Bundle
• Koraidon
• Kyogre
• Landorus-Incarnate
• Magearna
• Mewtwo
• Miraidon
• Palafin
• Palkia
• Rayquaza
• Regieleki
• Spectrier
• Urshifu-Single-Strike
• Urshifu-Rapid-Strike
• Volcarona
• Zacian-Hero
• Zacian-Crowned
• Zamazenta-Crowned

Abilities

• Arena Trap
• Moody
• Shadow Tag

Moves

• Baton Pass
• Shed Tail
• Last Respects

Bans are subject to change

The Council:
kommotito
if anybody’d want to help me make more metas tell me

This existed last generation as Multibility. Tagging drampa's grandpa for feedback on that as the old TL.

 

[Komatito]

This existed last generation as Multibility. Tagging drampa's grandpa for feedback on that as the old TL.

Sorry, didn’t know that existed

 

[TeaThymeLine]

Hello everyone. I had one suggestion in mind, about assembling all generations mechanics, but I think it would be considered as undoable as a "I like old gens" type. So, here's another one instead :

Puppeteer's Scheme

Premise : Single battle 6v6. Each Pokémon of your team gets the moves from the one that follows it, and the last one gets the first's moves.
Example :

1. [Dragon Darts/Dragon Dance/Tera Blast/U-turn] => [Hex/Recover/Baneful Bunker/Haze]
2. [Hex/Recover/Baneful Bunker/Haze] => [Defog/Body Press/U-turn/Roost]
3. [Defog/Body Press/U-turn/Roost] => [Calm mind/Iron Defense/Stored Power/Draining Kiss]
4. 
   [Calm mind/Iron Defense/Stored Power/Draining Kiss] => [Pyro Ball/U-Turn/Sucker Punch/Court Change]
5. 
   [Pyro Ball/U-Turn/Sucker Punch/Court Change] => [Megahorn/Close Combat/Facade/Throat Chop]
6. [Megahorn/Close Combat/Facade/Throat Chop] => [Dragon Darts/Dragon Dance/Tera Blast/U-turn]

At the beginning of the game, you'll have to determine the order in which the Pokémon will follow one after the other.

Clauses :

OU Clause

Bans :

OU Bans

Other Possible Bans :

Moves : Extreme Speed, Shell Smash, Transform, First Impression, Population Bomb.
Pokémon : Slaking.

Questions :

Q1 : How will I decide the order ?
A1 : You'll have to select the Pokémon of your choice from the first to the last before the battle starts.

Q2 : Would items and abilities be changed alongside moves ?
A2 : Each pokémon will keep their item and ability, no matter the order.

Q3 : What happens when a Pokemon faints ?
A3 : There won't be any changes, the others keep their moves from the defined order, see the previous example :
Even if Corviknight faints, Toxapex will keep [Defog/Body Press/U-Turn/Roost].

EDIT : I removed the Team Preview Clause because it doesn't seem necessary.

 

[chartung17]

Hello everyone. I had one suggestion in mind, about assembling all generations mechanics, but I think it would be considered as undoable as a "I like old gens" type. So, here's another one instead :

Puppeteer's Sheme

Premise : Single battle 6v6. Each Pokémon of your team gets the moves from the one that follows it, and the last one gets the first's moves.
Example :

1. View attachment 534582[Dragon Darts/Dragon Dance/Tera Blast/U-turn] => [Hex/Recover/Baneful Bunker/Haze]
2. View attachment 534589[Hex/Recover/Baneful Bunker/Haze] => [Defog/Body Press/U-turn/Roost]
3. View attachment 534590[Defog/Body Press/U-turn/Roost] => [Calm mind/Iron Defense/Stored Power/Draining Kiss]
4. View attachment 534593[Calm mind/Iron Defense/Stored Power/Draining Kiss] => [Pyro Ball/U-Turn/Sucker Punch/Court Change]
5. View attachment 534594[Pyro Ball/U-Turn/Sucker Punch/Court Change] => [Megahorn/Close Combat/Facade/Throat Chop]
6. View attachment 534597[Megahorn/Close Combat/Facade/Throat Chop] => [Dragon Darts/Dragon Dance/Tera Blast/U-turn]

At the beginning of the game, you'll have to determine the order in which the Pokémon will follow one after the other.

Clauses :

OU Clause + Team Preview Clause : You won't be allowed to see the opponent's team before the game starts !

Bans :

OU Bans

Other Possible Bans :

Moves : Extreme Speed, Shell Smash, Transform, First Impression, Population Bomb.
Pokémon : Slaking.

Questions :

Q1 : How will I decide the order ?
A1 : You'll have to select the Pokémon of your choice from the first to the last before the battle starts.

Q2 : Would items and abilities be changed alongside moves ?
A2 : Each pokémon will keep their item and ability, no matter the order.

Q3 : What happens when a Pokemon faints ?
A3 : There won't be any changes, the others keep their moves from the defined order, see the previous example :
Even if Corviknight faints, Toxapex will keep [Defog/Body Press/U-Turn/Roost].

Why do you determine the order at the start of the game instead of in the teambuilder if there's no team preview?

 

[prunyy]

Hello everyone. I had one suggestion in mind, about assembling all generations mechanics, but I think it would be considered as undoable as a "I like old gens" type. So, here's another one instead :

Puppeteer's Sheme

Premise : Single battle 6v6. Each Pokémon of your team gets the moves from the one that follows it, and the last one gets the first's moves.
Example :

1. View attachment 534582[Dragon Darts/Dragon Dance/Tera Blast/U-turn] => [Hex/Recover/Baneful Bunker/Haze]
2. View attachment 534589[Hex/Recover/Baneful Bunker/Haze] => [Defog/Body Press/U-turn/Roost]
3. View attachment 534590[Defog/Body Press/U-turn/Roost] => [Calm mind/Iron Defense/Stored Power/Draining Kiss]
4. View attachment 534593[Calm mind/Iron Defense/Stored Power/Draining Kiss] => [Pyro Ball/U-Turn/Sucker Punch/Court Change]
5. View attachment 534594[Pyro Ball/U-Turn/Sucker Punch/Court Change] => [Megahorn/Close Combat/Facade/Throat Chop]
6. View attachment 534597[Megahorn/Close Combat/Facade/Throat Chop] => [Dragon Darts/Dragon Dance/Tera Blast/U-turn]

At the beginning of the game, you'll have to determine the order in which the Pokémon will follow one after the other.

Clauses :

OU Clause + Team Preview Clause : You won't be allowed to see the opponent's team before the game starts !

Bans :

OU Bans

Other Possible Bans :

Moves : Extreme Speed, Shell Smash, Transform, First Impression, Population Bomb.
Pokémon : Slaking.

Questions :

Q1 : How will I decide the order ?
A1 : You'll have to select the Pokémon of your choice from the first to the last before the battle starts.

Q2 : Would items and abilities be changed alongside moves ?
A2 : Each pokémon will keep their item and ability, no matter the order.

Q3 : What happens when a Pokemon faints ?
A3 : There won't be any changes, the others keep their moves from the defined order, see the previous example :
Even if Corviknight faints, Toxapex will keep [Defog/Body Press/U-Turn/Roost].

I remember having some idea like this, so I think it could be pretty neat.
However, I feel like this might be too similar and a more restrictive form of Inheritance since you are taking movesets from other Pokemon, but I guess you are keeping abilities.