Pokemon Scarlet & Violet - 18th Nov 2022! **OFFICIAL INFO ONLY**

RocketSurgery said:
This doesn't bode well for the terastal form making it out of gen 9... rip ultra necrozma.
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Yeah I was just thinking about that, because normal Terapagos does feel very...well..."unevolved" for lack of a better term. It feels very designed around going into the terastal form even more than something like Necrozma, Calyrex or most relevantly to this Ogerpon. Like you dont bring back Ultra necrozma and its a bit of a shame but not THAT big a deal since Necrozma itself feels (ironically) complete, but Terapagos...

Maybe they just dont bother bringing it back next gen, unless they introduce a held item to induce it.
 
R_N said:
Did you, like me, wonder what stats they might tank to offset the minimal BST bump for Archdurlaudon?
Did you, like me, forget that Duraludon had a surprisingly "high" 85 base speed?

And then also, like me, go "oh they're making it slow again. like they always do"
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Optimistically they could dump from his 95 ATK stat, since compared to Duraludon, Arch is going a lot harder on a Special Attack focus with the Signature more (Dural was Special bias already but lacked the movepool), so they could remove from that too for redistributing. Also may sap from DEF since a Bridge looks less sturdy than a Skyscraper (not an architect to say it IS but the type of shape for a Pokemon has a look)
 
R_N said:
Did you, like me, wonder what stats they might tank to offset the minimal BST bump for Archdurlaudon?
Did you, like me, forget that Duraludon had a surprisingly "high" 85 base speed?

And then also, like me, go "oh they're making it slow again. like they always do"
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I imagine it'll be a 550 BST mon, with 50 speed, leaving them 50 points to play around with, probably something like;

80 / 100 / 125 / 135 / 60 / 50

Slow, bulky, bigger defences for Stamina, will still die to any special attack.

Besides the obvious hint within the design and the trainer, it's still a strange choice for an evolution candidate. They even gave Duraludon a G-Max form. It's also in Unite as a single-staged mon.

Will Chimecho ever have her moment? :psysad:
 
R_N said:
Did you, like me, wonder what stats they might tank to offset the minimal BST bump for Archdurlaudon?
Did you, like me, forget that Duraludon had a surprisingly "high" 85 base speed?

And then also, like me, go "oh they're making it slow again. like they always do"
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The stat distribution will be like Kingambit/Ursaluna, but with Special Attack focus.
Like 105/70/120/135/70/50 would be very realistic.
 
The in game model presented for Raging Bolt was so damn messy. Looks like a Lego dino lol.
Art is way better.

I bet Electric/Dragon and Steel/Ice for the paradoxes.
 
R_N said:
Did you, like me, wonder what stats they might tank to offset the minimal BST bump for Archdurlaudon?
Did you, like me, forget that Duraludon had a surprisingly "high" 85 base speed?

And then also, like me, go "oh they're making it slow again. like they always do"
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I am thinking they will bump it up to somewhere in the 550 - 560 range, but largely redistribute its stats. Duraludon has a really high base 95 attack that they can cut into if they want to minmax the statline.

I am predicting them to use the same 50 atk / 50 speed split that they used on Ursaluna and Gambit, so Duralduon would have roughly 15 + 45 + 35 = 95 additional stat points to work with if they decide to min-max it. It would be a shame though since its high speed was suppose to be its unique feature.
 
Cuddly said:
The new Applin evolution resembles the Gmax forms of its original evolutions.
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I was thinking that several gen 8 mons were in a rough spot since they were designed around their GMax forms despite the transition to mechanics being temporary. I also considered Duraludon to be in that category though its evolution doesn't look like it references its GMax.

Diancie evolution when?
 
Something really dope I noticed when rewatching the Teal Mask trailer is that they soft confirmed the secondary typings for the Poison Chain trio. You can see in a certain part of the trailer that Fezandipiti is using some Flying move (obvious is obvious), but then Munkidori clearly uses Psychic and Okidogi uses some Fighting move. So it seems that the typings will be Poison/Flying, Poison/Psychic, and Poison/Fighting respectively!
 
RocketSurgery said:
psychic fighting
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You mean Psychic/Steel, Iron Leaves is Psychic/Grass after all.
R_N said:
Did you, like me, wonder what stats they might tank to offset the minimal BST bump for Archdurlaudon?
Did you, like me, forget that Duraludon had a surprisingly "high" 85 base speed?

And then also, like me, go "oh they're making it slow again. like they always do"
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Cuddly said:
The stat distribution will be like Kingambit/Ursaluna, but with Special Attack focus.
Like 105/70/120/135/70/50 would be very realistic.
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Or, you know, they could just give it 600 BST, it's not like there's not already plenty of non-legendary Pokemon who have more than 550 BST.
 
Cheryl. said:
Something really dope I noticed when rewatching the Teal Mask trailer is that they soft confirmed the secondary typings for the Poison Chain trio. You can see in a certain part of the trailer that Fezandipiti is using some Flying move (obvious is obvious), but then Munkidori clearly uses Psychic and Okidogi uses some Fighting move. So it seems that the typings will be Poison/Flying, Poison/Psychic, and Poison/Fighting respectively!
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Fezandipiti is using moonblast and Okidogi is using giga impact
 
I assumed the highest a Mon’s BST could be to be granted an evolution was 500 (Ursaring) but I stand corrected now. I wonder how high Archaludon’s BST is gonna be considering it doesn’t seem like Gamefreak wants to go above 550 BST for a Non-Legendary (or any other special category) mon. [Corrected, see reply below.] Maybe they’ll end up surprising me again and it’ll be something like 555-570.
I should also note that Archaludon breaks the common fan theory that Mons with special forms couldn’t receive evolutions in the future, this means Sabeleye and Mawile may have chance! [Corrected, see reply below.]
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Well first impressions - a lot to unpack!

First off the Mew vs Mewtwo animation was my favourite part of the whole presentation. Really gave Mewtwo a menacing aura - I’d love to see more stuff in this vein.

I’m really glad there’s a minigame involving the camera - I really feel like I’ve been underusing this feature tbh compared to say the Switch Zelda games. I’m also glad to see there’s a new way of changing stats that will be available via minigame (mochi) - I’m not sure if it was IVs or EVs but either way making it more accessible can only be good.

The new Pokemon featured - Applin evo very boring tbh - seems to suit the character but they’ve given another evo to a Pokemon that already has one and its quite underwhelming - perhaps as Kieran gets stronger it might have an evo.

Carmine looks amazing btw, and I love the tough girl schtick.

Future Cobalion is boring as shit sadly, just like Iron Leaves. Past Raikou looks like it could be my favourite Paradox of all - I can’t believe they went in that direction its amazing. Duraludon evo meh. Don’t think it really needed an evo but its still better than the Applin one.

Drayton is obviously being heavily marketed amongst the Indigo Disk characters and hey - its working for me! Has a similar colour scheme to Guzma and he’s one of my all time faves - and I like his characterization so far. (Did we also see a shot of him in the Paldea animated thing?).

Much hype, much happy. Release date yay. Will try to keep myself from being spoiled by things outside the actual presentation - we’ll see how successful I am.
 
ExistingKirb said:
go above 550 BST for a Non-Legendary
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Arcanine and Florges would beg to to differ there. Also all the Paradoxes.
ExistingKirb said:
Archaludon breaks the common fan theory that Mons with special forms couldn’t receive evolutions in the future, this means Sabeleye and Mawile may have chance!
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A G-Max form is different from a Mega Evolution: Megas were only given to final stages, G-Maxes were not. Meowth, Pikachu, and Eevee aren't fully evolved after all.
 
AztecCroc said:
You mean Psychic/Steel, Iron Leaves is Psychic/Grass after all.


Or, you know, they could just give it 600 BST, it's not like there's not already plenty of non-legendary Pokemon who have more than 550 BST.
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They could, but considering Kingambit & Ursaluna both put a stopper at 550 I think that's as far as they want to go for now. Even Gholdengo, a clearly special Pokemon they designed to be strong, is "only" 550.

The only Pokemon with more than 550 BST are:
-Legendary/Mythical pokemon
-Pokemon they absolutely put on the level of Legendary Pokemon ie The Ultra Beasts and Paradoxes
-The pseudos
-Tied to a form change, like Schooling Wishiwashi or Hero Palafin (or megas)
-Tied to a debilitating ability, like Slaking (670) or Archeops (567)
-Arcanine (555) and Florges (552). Honestly...I thought I'd see more in the 551-555 range but uh...no it's just those two...

Archduraludon could go into the Arcanine/Florges tier, but I'd be really surprised at it getting past 560 much less all the way to 600
 
ExistingKirb said:
I should also note that Archaludon breaks the common fan theory that Mons with special forms couldn’t receive evolutions in the future, this means Sabeleye and Mawile may have chance!
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The reason why people worry about Sableye, Mawile, Absol, etc. not being able to gain evolutions is because Mega Evolution was stated in X & Y to be a phenomenon available to Pokémon that were thought to not evolve further.

Realistically, I think GF would be perfectly willing to disregard that if they felt like making a Mawile evo, but it’s not a concern that fans just came up with based on a theory.
 
Coronis said:
I can’t believe they went in that direction its amazing.
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I know right? I was expecting them to really focus in on the the armor on the head and the spikey tail ball and turn it into an ankylosaurus, I wasn't expecting them to go brachiosaurus.
R_N said:
Archduraludon could go into the Arcanine/Florges tier, but I'd be really surprised at it getting past 560 much less all the way to 600
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They could always decide to retroactively make it a pseudo by pulling a Roselia and giving it a prevo too. (Unlikely, but not impossible)
 
AztecCroc said:
Arcanine and Florges would beg to to differ there. Also all the Paradoxes.

A G-Max form is different from a Mega Evolution: Megas were only given to final stages, G-Maxes were not. Meowth, Pikachu, and Eevee aren't fully evolved after all.
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Good observations that I forgot to mention! That’s a blunder on my part, oops.
 
You know, at first I thought the terrarium would simulate Alola just on the beach and maybe would grab Galar (& Hisui, if Kitakami doesnt do the trick) but rewatching the trailer there's Alolan Graveler in the mountain parts and Alolan Sandshrew in the icy parts

What if Blueberry is just closer to Alolan waters this entire time. That'd be funny.


Also,
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Believe this is Giacomo, so we might be getting some extra scenes with everyone too. That'd be cute, especially for the star squad if they all get new outfits now that they're reintegrating into normal school
 
if archaludon isn't a BST rearrangement like scizor was to scyther then i don't even know what the plan is because i find it unlikely they are breaking 555 BST for a non-pseudo with a non-hindering ability. they'd need to make it basically 600 BST for a regular evolution to be meaningful anyway.

90 / 75 / 130 / 130 / 70 / 40 would make archaludon slower but otherwise more minmaxed towards defenses while still 535 BST for example
 
AztecCroc said:
You mean Psychic/Steel, Iron Leaves is Psychic/Grass after all.


Or, you know, they could just give it 600 BST, it's not like there's not already plenty of non-legendary Pokemon who have more than 550 BST.
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I don’t know about 600 BST.
Of the regular Pokemon (not legendary, mythical, Mega, ect.);
-Only 3 have have a BST higher than 600, being Slaking, Palafin, and Ash-Greninja (who was on par with a Mega like Primals were but I’ll count it anyways)
-Only 3.5 Pokemon have a BST higher than 550 but lower than 600, which are Archeops, Arcanine, and Florges (and Floette-E which never actually existed)
Seeing that Archdurlaudon isn’t that special, I doubt it’ll have 600 BST or anything higher than 560.
 
I didn't watch the Presents since I'd rather spend 35 minutes on more enjoyable things. Just watched the trailers afterwards. I have some short thoughts on what was shown, and on other things that were revealed.

- I'm very happy we have a release date for the Teal Mask, 13th September! ...a Wednesday. I won't be playing it on the release though, I'll wait until the weekend afterwards. It feels better that way, and this way, I'll be safe if there should be any major glitches/bugs involved, the fandom should let us know.
- New Pokémon. Totally didn't expect Applin to get another evolution. Looks way more similar to Applin itself than either of the previous evolutions, but that's okay. Wasn't expecting a Duraludon evolution either, looks kinda cool and weird. Really cool how the two new evolutions are of Gen 8 Pokémon! The new Paradoxes were expected though. Raging Bolt looks like a giraffe with its head in the clouds, Iron Crown looks as I would have expected a future Paradox Cobalion to look. I assume there will be Paradox versions of Entei and Terrakion as well, either in the Teal Mask (but they haven't been revealed yet) or in the Indigo Disk.
- Wasn't expecting Terapagos to have a different form when it is Terastallized. That solves the mystery with the little turtle shown in the anime at least.
- Still curious about Ogerpon. What is hiding behind that mask? Unless it was shown already and I missed it.
- Being able to reset EVs is nice. If it is relatively easy and not too expensive, I might do it for my imported teams from L:A and properly EV-train them afterwards.
- There's a new way to fly on Koraidon/Miraidon, and from what it looks like in the trailer, it seems like this will allow them to soar upwards! If this is the case, then this is really great as it solves one of my issues with their flight in the base game, it really annoyed me how you were unable to gain altitude.
- Mew event, kinda cool. I'll be sure to get it before it expires, thankfully there's no rush.
- Paldean Winds, another non-anime animation, which is amazing. I hope it will be as great as the previous mini-series. I'll watch it for sure.

Overall, I'm very happy about the DLC news and it has made me quite excited! Really looking forward to when it releases next month. In the meantime, I guess I should start planning my first DLC team...
 
Axiemeister said:
if archaludon isn't a BST rearrangement like scizor was to scyther then i don't even know what the plan is because i find it unlikely they are breaking 555 BST for a non-pseudo with a non-hindering ability. they'd need to make it basically 600 BST for a regular evolution to be meaningful anyway.

90 / 75 / 130 / 130 / 70 / 40 would make archaludon slower but otherwise more minmaxed towards defenses while still 535 BST for example
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Rearrange and then add ~+15 to get it to ~550 makes the most sense



Unrelated to all this
he head sticking out seems to belong to one of two separate creatures, while the tail belongs to the other. Both creatures help each other out from within their shared apple.
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Dipplin seems like a weird Pokemon...I would never have guessed there were 2 wyrms in there. I wonder if the pair are fully modeled in it like Applin is.
 
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