Pokemon Scarlet & Violet - 18th Nov 2022! **OFFICIAL INFO ONLY**

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Not giraffe, brachiosaurus

Nothing, that's just its face. It gets a bigger mask when it Teras.
If you meant that the mask is it's face the main DLC artwork confirms it is not
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Archduraludon could go into the Arcanine/Florges tier, but I'd be really surprised at it getting past 560 much less all the way to 600
There is one reason I could see for making Archuralodon go to 600, and that is the implied rivalry with Tyranitar.
It was ultimately designed with the whole Godzilla vs Skyscraper thing in mind as well as just Kaiju battles.
The other two Pokemon with a implied Kaiju relationship (Tyranitar itself and Baxcalibur) also have 600. Ofc they're pseudos, but I can see them making a jump for this concept alone.
 
Arcanine and Florges would beg to to differ there. Also all the Paradoxes.

A G-Max form is different from a Mega Evolution: Megas were only given to final stages, G-Maxes were not. Meowth, Pikachu, and Eevee aren't fully evolved after all.
Worth noting though that the non-final Stages that gain the G-Max factor were also incapable of evolving, functionally making them different forms without the evolution available.

The reason why people worry about Sableye, Mawile, Absol, etc. not being able to gain evolutions is because Mega Evolution was stated in X & Y to be a phenomenon available to Pokémon that were thought to not evolve further.

Realistically, I think GF would be perfectly willing to disregard that if they felt like making a Mawile evo, but it’s not a concern that fans just came up with based on a theory.
The handwave there is to just point out "thought" they could not evolve further. Thought wrong then and finding existing evolutions we didn't know about isn't that bizarre, especially "retroactively" with Hisuian evolutions that were never discussed for the wide-array of other-region-native Pokemon (Wyrdeer, Kleavor, and Ursaluna for base forms, plus Regional Evo branches like Basculegion, Overqwil, and Sneasler).
 
Worth noting though that the non-final Stages that gain the G-Max factor were also incapable of evolving, functionally making them different forms without the evolution available.
They weren't forms, the G-Max factor is a flag not a form change. That's why the Charmander Leon gives you already has it.
 
They weren't forms, the G-Max factor is a flag not a form change. That's why the Charmander Leon gives you already has it.
My point is that in gameplay terms G-Max was incompatible with a Pokemon that has a further evolution available to it at the same time, to the point that while these specific Pokemon have the G-Max flag, they can't even go anywhere besides SwSh where they could evolve (as opposed to just removing the G-Max flag from a hypothetical Raichu transfer-back). If anything G-Max is a bigger precedent to break than Megas for evolving because as opposed to speculation from a pattern, we have confirmed cases of G-Max actively barring a Pokemon from evolving further as a game option
 
The handwave there is to just point out "thought" they could not evolve further. Thought wrong then and finding existing evolutions we didn't know about isn't that bizarre, especially "retroactively" with Hisuian evolutions that were never discussed for the wide-array of other-region-native Pokemon (Wyrdeer, Kleavor, and Ursaluna for base forms, plus Regional Evo branches like Basculegion, Overqwil, and Sneasler).

Yeah, like I said, I don’t think Game Freak would feel in any way constrained by that text. I was just explaining that the idea that there could be an issue originated from an actual lore point rather than a fan theory.

I mean, I suppose one could find it conspicuous that in all the time since Gen 6, with cross-gen evos being back on the menu, they’ve yet to pull the trigger for a Pokémon that was previously able to Mega Evolve, but personally I think that’s most likely just GF’s inscrutable whims at work.
 
Not giraffe, brachiosaurus
Still looks more like a giraffe to me. Or at least that's the first thing I thought of when I saw it. I guess the black/yellow color scheme plays into it too.
Nothing, that's just its face. It gets a bigger mask when it Teras.
The way they showed it at around the 3:11 mark in the trailer made me think there was something else behind the mask. And as the artwork woodgoldtwo posted confirms, there is a real face behind the mask.
 
Still looks more like a giraffe to me. Or at least that's the first thing I thought of when I saw it. I guess the black/yellow color scheme plays into it too.

The way they showed it at around the 3:11 mark in the trailer made me think there was something else behind the mask. And as the artwork woodgoldtwo posted confirms, there is a real face behind the mask.
I also think that Storm keeping Raikou's thin tail contributes to it looking more like a giraffe and less like a sauropod. A bit ironic, since many other Past Paradoxes have a thick, scaly tail (or similar structure) as a primary change from the base mon.
 
Weirdly something similar happened with the Ultra Necrozma section of the big pokemon 1000 video
A few chunks that aligned up perfectly with a fan mix, but then surrounded by parts that didn't line up. I wonder if the same person handled the audio for both trailers. Once could have just been coincidence, but twice is a bit more brow-raising so to speak.
 
Rearrange and then add ~+15 to get it to ~550 makes the most sense

This. I think what's most likely is a slower, bulkier minmax focused on the physical stats to differentiate it from Goodra-Hisui, and then having its BST brought up to be in line with Kingambit.

All speculation at this point, but if Raging Bolt gets an Electric type version of Hydro Steam that in all likelihood means that P-Entei's move will be 270 BST (80 BP * 1.5 from Sun * 1.5 from move effect * 1.5 from STAB) under Sun + Protosynthesis boost unless they opt for making it the secondary type.
 
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This. I think what's most likely is a slower, bulkier minmax focused on the physical stats to differentiate it from Goodra-Hisui, and then having its BST brought up to be in line with Kingambit.

All speculation at this point, but if Raging Bolt gets an Electric type version of Hydro Steam that in all likelihood means that P-Entei's move will be 270 BST under Sun unless they opt for making it the secondary type.
Given Psyblade is Psychic, and thus likely going to be shared among the Cyber-Musketeers, I doubt Paradox Entei would end up with a Dragon move, unless of course Raging Bolt and Paradox Entei end up not being Dragon.

Also slightly related, someone should poke Khu and see if he knows what dinosaur Entei's based on. My initial idea was triceratops, but with how they did Raikou Entei could be a pterodactyl for all I know.
 
Something interesting to note

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These are deliberately named differently. With the current wording (and the effects layered on the design) I think Terapagos' form is not necessarely ties to terastalizing but rather just an alternate form, whereas Terastallized State Ogerpon is some sorta special terastal mechanic (like g-maxes if you will)
 
Given Psyblade is Psychic, and thus likely going to be shared among the Cyber-Musketeers, I doubt Paradox Entei would end up with a Dragon move, unless of course Raging Bolt and Paradox Entei end up not being Dragon.

This seems likely due to the parallel with Sacred Sword but I don't see how Raging Bolt/Jurassic Entei would get Hydro Steam.

What this leaves me at logically is P-Entei ending up with Hydro Steam (Fire) which to me seems pretty absurd from a base power standpoint.
 
This seems likely due to the parallel with Sacred Sword but I don't see how Raging Bolt/Jurassic Entei would get Hydro Steam.
My point was that the Cyber-Musketeers will all share one, while the Legendary Dino-Beasts will all have their own unless they pull something weird and have Water be the shared type for them or don't have a shared type at all.
 
This seems likely due to the parallel with Sacred Sword but I don't see how Raging Bolt/Jurassic Entei would get Hydro Steam.

What this leaves me at logically is P-Entei getting Hydro Steam but Fire which to me seems pretty absurd from a base power standpoint.

it seems possible that Entei’s move could be fire that doesn’t lose power in rain for some nice symmetry.
 
My point was that the Cyber-Musketeers will all share one, while the Legendary Dino-Beasts will all have their own unless they pull something weird and have Water be the shared type for them or don't have a shared type at all.

I agree with you.

I'm just saying that in the event of them getting different signatures I don't think they'd be type reskinned/renamed versions of Hydro Steam because that immediately becomes silly if Entei were to get a Fire version of it. I don't think Entei is getting a Dragon signature, either, FWIW.
 
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Pokemon.com claims that the raid events will happen from Thursday August 8 to Sunday August 17, and if you look at today's date you'll see the problem with that. The previous raid events have usually spanned these weekend times so I think this could just be a quick copy paste error, but I was wondering about the original raid timeline before Chesnaught delayed everything by a month. Since there was some Mewtwo cross promotion going on in June-July that could have aligned pretty well, I wondered about what the intended timeline would look like for when this Mewtwo raid was supposed to happen.

Here are some events I've lined up related to raids and things the Presents covered:

May 19-21: The original Chesnaught rerun with bugged paradoxes
May 26-28: original Delphox run?
June 2-4: original Delphox rerun?
June 7: announcement that the Chesnaught rerun is fixed
June 9-11: original Rillaboom run date (leaked by the Nintendo Switch news article)
June 16-18: original Rillaboom rerun?
June 16-18: actual Chesnaught rerun date
June 20: Pokemon Trainer Cruise announced
June 21: Nintendo Direct + Gimmighoul raid event (to July 2) + Detective Pikachu Returns announcement
June 24: Mewtwo and Mew event in Cafe Remix
June 29: Mewtwo + Panic Parade official announcement for Unite
June 29: Pokemon SV 1.3.2 release date (with the new Mew/Mewtwo raid mechanic)
July 3: Delphox announcement
July 6: New Mew outfit in Cafe Remix.
July 7-9: actual Delphox run
July 14-16: actual Delphox rerun
July 17: actual Rillaboom announcement (the raid would be 2 weeks later unlike most other announcements)
July 17: Pokemon Sleep launches.
July 18: Worlds trailer
July 19: Pokemon Trainer Cruise registration opens
July 20: Horizons anime dub trailer
July 21: All the Unite 2nd Anniversary content covered (Mega Mewtwo X + Panic Parade)
(Panic Parade was playable from July 21 to July 31, and returns each weekend from Aug 4-6, Aug 11-13, and Aug 18-20. It is not currently playable despite being advertised in the Presents.)
July 24: Tera Dark Charizard gift, reflected across the anime/TCG
July 26: The late July 2023 NSO game update for Oracle of Ages/Seasons
July 27: Shiny Grimmsnarl gift distribution
July 27: Nemona + the final Presents date datamined from Masters
July 28-30: actual Rillaboom run
August 1: Pokemon Sleep is getting an event for every full moon and the last full moon was August 1 while the next one won't be until August 30.
August 4-6: Half the GO Fest events that they announced already happened.
August 4-6: actual Rillaboom rerun

If Chesnaught wasn't delayed, then we would have neatly finished up with all the starters before the Gimmighoul raid event started. Afterwards we might have heard about Mew/Mewtwo on June 29 itself to align with the update and other Mewtwo announcements, and the preparation raids + Mewtwo taking place over the next weeks right after Gimmighoul instead of the delayed Delphox, which would allow the Dark type Charizard and Shiny Grimmsnarl gifts to add some advantages against it. If it started on July 21 and lasted the same 18 days, it would have even ended on August 8th which is an interesting coincidence. As it is now, Mewtwo's raid (Aug 31-Sept 17) will go on past the DLC release date of September 13th which is a bit awkward. I was also considering the possibility of the 5-star raids being tied to each rerun, since Delphox has a significant advantage over both Scizor and Hydreigon, but Rillaboom doesn't have much to do with Hatterene and Grimmsnarl. At this point I'm kind of just grasping at straws and I don't think this would have affected most of the Presents, but it's interesting how we've been delayed a month now and can see some of the results of it across different media, with even Rillaboom's initial raid run seemingly being delayed 1 week just to have it align with the next raid event more neatly. Since Mewtwo will end after the DLC releases, we could probably see an influx of new options for themed raid bosses, but I wonder about the original events that would have taken up the time between Mewtwo that we didn't end up seeing.

I think the Clefairy mass outbreak event on September 28 is probably the next thing scheduled on time, since it's a whole new mechanic and tied to the full moon. It's nice that the DLC mons will be made accessible in some way to regular players.
 
Something interesting to note

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These are deliberately named differently. With the current wording (and the effects layered on the design) I think Terapagos' form is not necessarely ties to terastalizing but rather just an alternate form, whereas Terastallized State Ogerpon is some sorta special terastal mechanic (like g-maxes if you will)
Oh that's a pretty good catch

I wrote off the different aesthetics as just marking Terapagos more "special", but a Terastal Form that probably has its own gimmick that might further interact with tera would also work for that and mean the main design being pushed can actually show up in the future
 
Something interesting to note

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View attachment 541238

These are deliberately named differently. With the current wording (and the effects layered on the design) I think Terapagos' form is not necessarely ties to terastalizing but rather just an alternate form, whereas Terastallized State Ogerpon is some sorta special terastal mechanic (like g-maxes if you will)
Oh that's a pretty good catch

I wrote off the different aesthetics as just marking Terapagos more "special", but a Terastal Form that probably has its own gimmick that might further interact with tera would also work for that and mean the main design being pushed can actually show up in the future
If there are Terastallization forms, what exactly do they do? Like Gigantamax would give you different effects based on the type of move you used, usually being better, but what do you do with a mechanic that is a type change with improved STAB?
 
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