NOC Lover's Dance: Engagement Party Game Thread (Mafia win)

There, Celever made two recorded reads, one on page one, and the other on page 5.
In VnV, Celever made two reads on day 1. Those two reads are the only actual reads (ignoring the joke one I put for 253 as a "not in game" read) listed.

Compared to Celever's 4 recorded reads during the predance (two before pairing, two after), I don't think this is the same Celever as in those two games.
 
there are actually very few potential pairings when you think about it

psy/zippy
psy/ls
psy/mc
celever/zippy
celever/ls
celever/mc
neon/zippy
neon/ls
neon/mc

obviously for myself i can remove the three pairs that would involve me so we each only actually have six possibilities that we have to consider as the team which is a drastically low number compared to most games
This is actually a really interesting and good framing ty. It makes this game kinda insane to think through though lol. Based on straight reads I feel like Neon / LS is the two scummiest people but would they really team up? In context yeah… but I also thought that about pulsar and skipper lol. Maybe this train of thought kinda just results in T/T or W/W :row:

FWIW I still think it’s fine we voted out pulsar and skipper they truly had to go lol.

What’s irking me is I deeply scumread LS fsr I just think this has been one of the more inconsistent LSes in recent memory (including eg u-turning on when she was willing to vote) but I both think Psy is town and see very little scumbud equity between Psy and LS, and know that I can’t be scum, so that does only leave LS/Neon as an option. There’s a chance if I weren’t me then I would see Cel/LS as the likeliest scum pair and that makes me feel like I’m barking up the wrong tree a bit lol

Maybe it’s like Neon / Zippy? Would have been some extremely transparent buddying on Zippy’s part, but Neon also kicked things off with precluding the possibility of them pairing up, which is the only person who did that to anyone in the game I think. It feels scuffed but plausible.

I have nothing to contribute wrt Ehmcee ftr, our chat has barely been used. We need him to activity burst lol
 
There, Celever made two recorded reads, one on page one, and the other on page 5.
In VnV, Celever made two reads on day 1. Those two reads are the only actual reads (ignoring the joke one I put for 253 as a "not in game" read) listed.

Compared to Celever's 4 recorded reads during the predance (two before pairing, two after), I don't think this is the same Celever as in those two games.
I don’t understand this definition of reads at all fwiw. I had high read density in Popcorn, one of the highest on the town
 
neon and i have barely talked in our pm thread lol. we talked briefly abt the pulsar vote before either of us voted
Can you tl;dr it?

Thinking about it Ehmcee actually did kick off our PM chat with scumreading Psy, so probably if he is scum his buddy isn’t Psy. That’s basically the only content in there I think lol
 
I don’t understand this definition of reads at all fwiw. I had high read density in Popcorn, one of the highest on the town
I mean the ones that actually got on the sheet.
Either I missed a few or they were too speculative, weren't straight forward enough for my dense skulll, or were otherwise just not quite compatible with the concept of my spreadsheet.
 
i asked him what he thought on the pulsar vote, pointing out that even if all of the two other pairs get on they need one of us
he said it felt quick and wasnt sure about the mannerisms involved.
i pointed out that most of proposal cycle was discussing mannerisms and stuff.
he expresses concern about how insistent people are/how quick they want the vote to be moving. we talk a few messages about the gamestate of that.
i asked if this game's pulsar felt like joat's.
he says its more like vnv than it is joat.
 
I mean the ones that actually got on the sheet.
Either I missed a few or they were too speculative, weren't straight forward enough for my dense skulll, or were otherwise just not quite compatible with the concept of my spreadsheet.
I mean sure but even then using this game as the example I directly scumread pulsar after the pre-dance. I was wrong, but I still did lol.

All this is to say that I guess I don’t trust your sheet sorry :wo:
 
Like shit like "would you be doing this if you weren't scum?" is just too uncertain and just...weird to really be certain for me.
I mean sure but even then using this game as the example I directly scumread pulsar after the pre-dance. I was wrong, but I still did lol.

All this is to say that I guess I don’t trust your sheet sorry :wo:
I guess I'm just not good at figuring out what is and isn't actually a read as opposed to just "alright let's get this vote over with" from you idk.
 
i asked him what he thought on the pulsar vote, pointing out that even if all of the two other pairs get on they need one of us
he said it felt quick and wasnt sure about the mannerisms involved.
i pointed out that most of proposal cycle was discussing mannerisms and stuff.
he expresses concern about how insistent people are/how quick they want the vote to be moving. we talk a few messages about the gamestate of that.
i asked if this game's pulsar felt like joat's.
he says its more like vnv than it is joat.
Ty this all feels fairly natural tbh and obviously he was …right about it? Wasn’t pulsar maf in vnv and JOAT idr lol
 
Like shit like "would you be doing this if you weren't scum?" is just too uncertain and just...weird to really be certain for me.

I guess I'm just not good at figuring out what is and isn't actually a read as opposed to just "alright let's get this vote over with" from you idk.
This is incredibly limiting because the life of a town player is to be uncertain of everything, and the life of a mafia player is to pretend to be
 
Yeah that’s not what I’m referring to
Well then what were you referring to?

we're after deadline lol
fwiw I don't think that would have changed anything lol
not reads

Me tbf the issue was the rest of your list lol. Also Texas
This is just a response to something that isn't even about this game.

Currently feel like LS is hard coasting + by the time she paired up thread direction had gone “Neon is definitely town” for like no reason I’m skeptical of that situation
Not even about pulsar, and saying someone is coasting != saying they're scum.

Do I even need to say why this isn't a pulsar scumread?

Idk man I feel like this game has hardcore gone off the rails and it’s gonna need to fall off the rails before we can try and put it back on them again
Just commentary over the whole game.

But this is valid yeah, that read came out of nowhere. I could honestly see LS / Zippy team because they both just assumed Neon town out of nowhere
Has nothing to do with pulsar, and even then, "could honestly see" just feels like saying "there is a possibility of this being the scumteam" which, no shit applies to literally every combination of 1 gentleman and 1 lady that doesn't include someone who has already flipped town.

Like Neon is playing different to regular Neon anyway but that’s unclockable because of game ban context, so they can’t even fall back on “Neon is just doing town Neon things amirite”
Just elaborating on the difference in my behavior, has nothing to do with pulsar at all.

Oh right yeah everyone gets one free forgetting about that mechanic lol
Just going "oh shit yeah game mechanics"

That’s an actually good point and the answer is probably that people will start panic voting with 24 hours left after 4 days of gridlocking LMAO
more gamestate shit

Oh yeah, hard agree, hopefully it isn’t inevitable but it kinda feels that way

I just think if we can’t even get pulsar / skipper voted out it’s a bit of a lost cause they are the deeply correct first vote lol

I guess the actual mechanics of this game are incredibly whack, because to actually send someone over it basically has to be unanimous (3 pairs involved) or split + self-sacrifice (third pair is actually someone voting to send themself). This continues for the rest of the game too where it has to be near unan or self-vote

Plurality is a wonderful thing
closest to an actual direct read thus far, just calling them a good vote as opposed to saying one or both of them is scum/is a sr/etc.
also game mechanics shit.

Who would you vote instead lol? I feel like you’re townreading most of the game which like no one else is doing + iirc you normally scumread more than townread this is weird to me

Pulsar has def not been towny I think, and skipper has been more evasive and avoidy + is sticking to already proven salient opinions which are scum tells for him. I’m not sure why pulsar feels scum but we saw her town game in popcorn and her vibes this time are hella different, partly because she is much more focused on the game but I think it’s also ineffably deeper than that
Just critiquing Zippy's reads, closest to actually saying pulsar is scummy, but my brain doesn't quite equate "not towny" to "scummy".
Also keep in mind that that was posted around when I was playing TF2, and at that time I was just checking to see if there was anything new just to give me something to look at during the like 2 seconds I was waiting to respawn as opposed to actually putting shit on my sheet.

Aren’t we at 5 lol

Did everyone forget I voted ages ago

Neon voted btw Psy
fundamentally EoD
 
Well then what were you referring to?

Just critiquing Zippy's reads, closest to actually saying pulsar is scummy, but my brain doesn't quite equate "not towny" to "scummy".
Also keep in mind that that was posted around when I was playing TF2, and at that time I was just checking to see if there was anything new just to give me something to look at during the like 2 seconds I was waiting to respawn as opposed to actually putting shit on my sheet.
A) is that really all I've posted today that is lacking asf LMAO sorry for sucking and B) I think based on this response that you figured out this is what I was referring to lol. I literally said she feels scum :worrywhirl:

Anyway I care more about you thinking I have 2 reads in Popcorn than this, but both show a flaw in the method
 
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