Why is sam there
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skipper I did provide reasoning on like shortly before you asked so
but basically slanking hard as scum is meta for him, and I don't like the interaction with realiti though that is mainly from realiti's POV. realiti!town pushes skipper to null probably but only one can be neutral.JALMONT is on the list he's just yellow :P
It's possible to find multiple people scummy independent of each other
He hasn't given any solid reads, been on the fence for all of them, doesn't seem interested in scumhunting and his "Content" posts are all mafia theory/mechanics/about Celever instead of actually contributing to the gamestate
I don't know what to think of this post but tigershark seems like a more interesting and capable player than I thought from his entrance so I'm probably not voting him
and @ pulsar's above, sam is there because his posts so far have over-emphasised his lack of meta with players while creating unnatural dynamics among some of the cast. The tone and content within his posts is surface level fine but Sam is more than capable of doing that. I think kicking it off with the JALMONT tunnel is strange, and I dsagree with him maintaining the JALMONT tunnel after JALMONT said he's unavailable (could believe this is S/S eq and was produced as an excuse for Sam to have a bloodless D1 that grants greater flexibility for him later).
This post is the one that has me put Sam into the scumlean territory. The flooding etc. comment and being like "Celever is probably the only person to have read every post in the thread" is what I mean wrt setting up unhelpful player dynamics and that if he's scum that's a tactical move of keeping me in the spotlight today and increasing my optical presence even more. I disagree with most of the takes on a historical level i.e. don't think his commentary tracks with what's been happening in the thread, and the Blazade point is really strange when taking this post into account:
Furthermore Sam usually does actually interact with people and so far he's never actually replied to anyone in the game. I don't see much reason for that when there have been replies to him that are at least worth due acknowledgment to reconfirm his position on (such as people's response to him wrt Neon's sheet making, which is def a dialogue moment that Sam chose not to participate in).
Sam's solidly scumlean rather than scumread but I'm not loving it so far.
You arent as good as I am.
i cant readskipper I did provide reasoning on like shortly before you asked so
JALMONT is on the list he's just yellow :P
also why scum hydro
Calling it tunnelling is a very big overstatement
Misphrased. I meant I was going to join you in that push, before you made yourself more suspicious
Nothing to add to the reasoning; I 100% agreed just as I said
Latching onto a singular example I gave in place of naming everything in the post.
Because you did all you can to skew things against me by exaggerating anything and everything you could.
Realiti is posting well and I wouldn’t vote them today. Not 100% sold their town but town lean.
Celever is actually coming from a better place in terms of trying to analyze stuff recently though I still think his early D1 was bad.
I’m ok with voting fairy here not being willing to give a D1 read is insane.
I said I was gonna keep my vote on Jalmont until he posted and he hasn’t and now it’s DL almost so I feel like this is a weird game of chicken.
Celever can you elaborate on why you think I’m trying to be ‘bloodless’ when literally every post I’m listing as many reads or takes as I can. Seems kinda opposite of bloodless and btw I’m disappointed by the lack of blood this day it’s really not acceptable.
I’ll try to monitor things today though I’m at work and can’t post a ton. My vote would be on Fairy or Jalmont at this moment because both have done literally nothing and are actively trying to avoid interactions with everyone else.
I could be persuaded to vote tiger as well since he made so many terrible OMGUS / desperation posts when pressured but I’ve seen both noob maf and noob town do that. One bonus of this vote is that it would tell us a lot about Realiti because I do think a world where Realiti is scum is one where Tiger also is a highportion of the time.
Celever tell me who your most likely scum pairs are (not individuals, but if one of the pair is maf then the other likely is too). Also can people tag me in vote posts it’s hard to keep track.
Celever is actually coming from a better place in terms of trying to analyze stuff recently though I still think his early D1 was bad.
I’m ok with voting fairy here not being willing to give a D1 read is insane.
I said I was gonna keep my vote on Jalmont until he posted and he hasn’t and now it’s DL almost so I feel like this is a weird game of chicken.
Celever can you elaborate on why you think I’m trying to be ‘bloodless’ when literally every post I’m listing as many reads or takes as I can. Seems kinda opposite of bloodless and btw I’m disappointed by the lack of blood this day it’s really not acceptable.
I’ll try to monitor things today though I’m at work and can’t post a ton. My vote would be on Fairy or Jalmont at this moment because both have done literally nothing and are actively trying to avoid interactions with everyone else.
I could be persuaded to vote tiger as well since he made so many terrible OMGUS / desperation posts when pressured but I’ve seen both noob maf and noob town do that. One bonus of this vote is that it would tell us a lot about Realiti because I do think a world where Realiti is scum is one where Tiger also is a highportion of the time.
Celever tell me who your most likely scum pairs are (not individuals, but if one of the pair is maf then the other likely is too). Also can people tag me in vote posts it’s hard to keep track.
The implied reason was exact same readslist for top 4 scum.
Where have I not been giving reads literally every post is nothing but reads
AG I’ve heard nothing from you of substance who are your top four vote options today.
Hopping on the realiti read here, though if he's scum. I'm not sure about the last paragraph, are you suggesting voting tiger to learn about realiti? I'd rather go after Celever and pulsar.
Celever maf > Pulsar wolf? > HH maf > I don't have a fourth scumread yet, lemme look closer.
You have 8 posts with 1-2 reads in half of them, but thank you for the above posts
Hm, I don't remember much from skipper and I usually do when he's town. Skipper for number 4.
ImaginaryNeon does anybody townread Celever
hi we haven't played in a decade, i hate d1 and being asked specifically about hydro who i did express concern about his d1 presence and then wanted to wait for d2 presence for. i also gave thoughts on blazade given that zippy expressed concern about them and nobody interfaced w/ it
yeah i dont like d1 and giving d1 reads. will i do it if i asked, if i must. but voting someone out who takes like 1.5 to 2 cycles to have reads and even then struggles to articulate them doesn't really work esp since most folks itg will have known and understand that i play this way d1.
would you like me to give my thoughts on someone? feel free to ask.