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I'll probably stay on Blazade for now, my issue with Celever is that I think he's better as scum than town, so I'm uncertain whether his posts are (imo) bad reads as town or calculated reads as scum. Lean the latter atm.
 
Actually I read last page and no longer would vote Celever today unless every other option is bad.

He’s taking hard stances on people and even though I think his reads are absolute garbage I respect it and think that the thought process behind it is towny. He could’ve just adjusted his mindset after a weak opening of course but I’m not gonna tunnel on him.

Saying I am tunneling on Jalmont is absolutely wild though lol but again it’s coming from a place that is just bad play and not scum imo.

Ok AG’s post is interesting and I’m starting to see some fault lines that’ll tell us real info based on our vote today.

It seems like I’m almost the only person who doesn’t scum lean pulsar. I can’t tell if this is a coordinated scum push or if I’m just bad, but at least we would get a lot of info out of that vote.

Blazade I’m moving to disappointed in but still don’t wanna vote today.

I think that my top four vote options would be, in order:
- A Fairy
- Tiger
- Jalmont
- Zippy

Re. The last one they seem to be actively trolling and purposefully not being helpful. I’ve seen this behavior more from scum than town in the past when they feel they’re not being pressured so gonna throw that out there. Please continue to tag me so I can quickly see stuff to respond to.
 
hi we haven't played in a decade, i hate d1 and being asked specifically about hydro who i did express concern about his d1 presence and then wanted to wait for d2 presence for. i also gave thoughts on blazade given that zippy expressed concern about them and nobody interfaced w/ it

yeah i dont like d1 and giving d1 reads. will i do it if i asked, if i must. but voting someone out who takes like 1.5 to 2 cycles to have reads and even then struggles to articulate them doesn't really work esp since most folks itg will have known and understand that i play this way d1.

would you like me to give my thoughts on someone? feel free to ask.
Thoughts on Cel (town apparently?), Realiti, me, Neon, Pulsar, AG, Blazade

Also who would you be down to vote today
 
Misphrased. I meant I was going to join you in that push, before you made yourself more suspicious
Shouldn't be mutually exclusive but sure lol
AG said:
Nothing to add to the reasoning; I 100% agreed just as I said
There is no reasoning! I don't remember who the first person to vote pulsar for the no vote suggestion was tbf and maybe they scum cased her but like, what is the scum case you're still pushing her as scum and I don't even remember others' case of her so please collate your reasons. This is the himbo energy.
Latching onto a singular example I gave in place of naming everything in the post.[/quote
??????????????? what does this mean lol I quoted every word in your post and replied to every word, I didn't latch onto a singular example any more than any other word in your post.
AG said:
Because you did all you can to skew things against me by exaggerating anything and everything you could.
I don't think it is exaggerated TBH. I think it was a very fair rundown.
 
Thoughts on Cel (town apparently?), Realiti, me, Neon, Pulsar, AG, Blazade

Also who would you be down to vote today

cel - town lean, his behavior on pressure (giving and taken) gives me town cel vibes
realiti - town lean if i had to pick a side, i like his presence so far. i feel like when he's scum he tends to take the first half of d1 super not seriously and then tries to leverage what he says/reactions to him into town cred, and i havent gotten much of that today
neon - this is the least towny neon has felt, he feels more muted in the sense that he isn't biting at joke hooks he sees quite as often and i think it's not for lack of hooks he can find
pulsar - no thoughts yet, if she holds this behavior throughout the game then i will be lost bc it feels like a pulsar ive only seen for like a few hours max of last game and not at all in previous games. she tends to be more nervous as scum i feel like but she's also reaching the point i think where she's breaking out of the 'new mafia player' shell and becoming someone who has a playstyle so maybe that is something she's successfully leaving behind. but yeah no thoughts yet
AG - so for what it's worth AG has rolled mafia nearly exclusively in games since revival and i dont think i've scumread him a single time. that being said i do think he's town this game. so maybe that should equate to a scumread. or maybe my reads of AG are full useless and should be tossed in the bin.
Blazade - i mentioned this when zippy brought attention to the town-reading folk(s?) were doing of him earlier in the cycle but blazade has yet to do anything AI in my eyes. but i've also played with him the least of this list, i ran a game he played in and tmk he's only played in one other game since revival which we did play together

who i would be down to vote today? ngl honestly from this list neon, AG i read poorly every time so I'd trust a group consensus over my town read probably. from the expanded list i could maybe live with an HH vote (worried abt that MU scum energy) i could buy a case on Ehmcee if someone has one,
 
cel - town lean, his behavior on pressure (giving and taken) gives me town cel vibes
realiti - town lean if i had to pick a side, i like his presence so far. i feel like when he's scum he tends to take the first half of d1 super not seriously and then tries to leverage what he says/reactions to him into town cred, and i havent gotten much of that today
neon - this is the least towny neon has felt, he feels more muted in the sense that he isn't biting at joke hooks he sees quite as often and i think it's not for lack of hooks he can find
pulsar - no thoughts yet, if she holds this behavior throughout the game then i will be lost bc it feels like a pulsar ive only seen for like a few hours max of last game and not at all in previous games. she tends to be more nervous as scum i feel like but she's also reaching the point i think where she's breaking out of the 'new mafia player' shell and becoming someone who has a playstyle so maybe that is something she's successfully leaving behind. but yeah no thoughts yet
AG - so for what it's worth AG has rolled mafia nearly exclusively in games since revival and i dont think i've scumread him a single time. that being said i do think he's town this game. so maybe that should equate to a scumread. or maybe my reads of AG are full useless and should be tossed in the bin.
Blazade - i mentioned this when zippy brought attention to the town-reading folk(s?) were doing of him earlier in the cycle but blazade has yet to do anything AI in my eyes. but i've also played with him the least of this list, i ran a game he played in and tmk he's only played in one other game since revival which we did play together

who i would be down to vote today? ngl honestly from this list neon, AG i read poorly every time so I'd trust a group consensus over my town read probably. from the expanded list i could maybe live with an HH vote (worried abt that MU scum energy) i could buy a case on Ehmcee if someone has one,
What is your HH read
 
i see the comparisons between the MU scum game you linked and if that's all he's ever gonna be it'll be a scumread by mid day2 but right now it's day1 so like with pulsar i wanna see more, but yeah it didn't start good in my eyes for HH
 
hi my name's Celever and I'm an alcoholic
ok cool
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oh right he did post a readlist. idk i feel like you have to if the scumreads are based on you not posting reads right? hypocrite moment as sam's pushing of me resulted in me reading like a third of the game on d1 lol
he posted reads unprompted

also i have to take back my skipper townlean now that it's close to EoD and he hasn't posted
 
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