NOC Smogon Mafia Mafia (Won by the Mafia)

UncleSam said:
Realiti is posting well and I wouldn’t vote them today. Not 100% sold their town but town lean.

Celever is actually coming from a better place in terms of trying to analyze stuff recently though I still think his early D1 was bad.

I’m ok with voting fairy here not being willing to give a D1 read is insane.

I said I was gonna keep my vote on Jalmont until he posted and he hasn’t and now it’s DL almost so I feel like this is a weird game of chicken.

Celever can you elaborate on why you think I’m trying to be ‘bloodless’ when literally every post I’m listing as many reads or takes as I can. Seems kinda opposite of bloodless and btw I’m disappointed by the lack of blood this day it’s really not acceptable.

I’ll try to monitor things today though I’m at work and can’t post a ton. My vote would be on Fairy or Jalmont at this moment because both have done literally nothing and are actively trying to avoid interactions with everyone else.
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This is pretty traditional D1 fairy gameplay fwiw, but her posts are actually content-rich she just tends not to be forthright until later in the game. She doesn't really "townlean" or "scumlean" people she just shades or whatever the opposite of shades is until she has a full confident read and then she says it, most of the time.

Bloodless was just in the scum pair with JALMONT thing where you get to ride on him past deadline and have a nice level-1 rogue vote for wagon analysis later in the game. Not an outright accusation or anything, there isn't enough to go off there to make that accusation lol. Was just playing the logic out.
Sam said:
I could be persuaded to vote tiger as well since he made so many terrible OMGUS / desperation posts when pressured but I’ve seen both noob maf and noob town do that. One bonus of this vote is that it would tell us a lot about Realiti because I do think a world where Realiti is scum is one where Tiger also is a highportion of the time.
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I think this pair is genuinely quite interesting and I'm kind of into it, but realiti has scumbud eq with a large proportion of the game TBH.
Sam said:
Celever tell me who your most likely scum pairs are (not individuals, but if one of the pair is maf then the other likely is too). Also can people tag me in vote posts it’s hard to keep track.
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Might do a chart later but for now:
realiti / skipper | Hydro -- skipper and Hydro have 0 interaction between one another, genuinely feel like there's a universe where skipper just has a little orchestrated interaction with his scumbud and then dips. Hydro has sheeped realiti I think multiple times but it could also come from T/S realiti/Hydro, I think Hydro also townread realiti pretty early though?

pulsar / tiger -- I'm still sticking to this. I think both of these players are town, but I also think if one of them is scum the other is very likely to be. "Newbie scumbud sheeps partner's content" is a trap that happens all the time, and though it's a trap pulsar also did in her first game I don't think she thinks to warn tiger against it at the start of this one.

Sam / Blazade -- here's a fun one. Blazade and Sam have established certain narratives this game, particularly coming from Blazade's POV where he discussed being one of the players who will go after the big-name players, of which Sam is probably the biggest in this game. A frenemyship where they shade each other all game under the assumption that one of them doesn't get sent over is something I could buy these players deciding to do, and roughly aligns with their content so far.

Think this is about it for now, I'd have thought I have more but at least not in my current mentality of "being pretty tired" lol
 
a fairy said:
cel - town lean, his behavior on pressure (giving and taken) gives me town cel vibes
realiti - town lean if i had to pick a side, i like his presence so far. i feel like when he's scum he tends to take the first half of d1 super not seriously and then tries to leverage what he says/reactions to him into town cred, and i havent gotten much of that today
neon - this is the least towny neon has felt, he feels more muted in the sense that he isn't biting at joke hooks he sees quite as often and i think it's not for lack of hooks he can find
pulsar - no thoughts yet, if she holds this behavior throughout the game then i will be lost bc it feels like a pulsar ive only seen for like a few hours max of last game and not at all in previous games. she tends to be more nervous as scum i feel like but she's also reaching the point i think where she's breaking out of the 'new mafia player' shell and becoming someone who has a playstyle so maybe that is something she's successfully leaving behind. but yeah no thoughts yet
AG - so for what it's worth AG has rolled mafia nearly exclusively in games since revival and i dont think i've scumread him a single time. that being said i do think he's town this game. so maybe that should equate to a scumread. or maybe my reads of AG are full useless and should be tossed in the bin.
Blazade - i mentioned this when zippy brought attention to the town-reading folk(s?) were doing of him earlier in the cycle but blazade has yet to do anything AI in my eyes. but i've also played with him the least of this list, i ran a game he played in and tmk he's only played in one other game since revival which we did play together

who i would be down to vote today? ngl honestly from this list neon, AG i read poorly every time so I'd trust a group consensus over my town read probably. from the expanded list i could maybe live with an HH vote (worried abt that MU scum energy) i could buy a case on Ehmcee if someone has one,
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this is a good post btw

I would vote Zippy today, putting it on the record
 
realiti said:
his "Content" posts are all mafia theory/mechanics/about Celever
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hmm where have I seen something like this before
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Oddly, the bold button on my phone isn't working but I can use tags right? I'll vote soon, just figuring it out.

Ehmcee said some of the things I wanted to say wrt pulsar claiming, she claimed early as scum in the kast game and got other people to talk about PRs because of this. Also she was spewing in the thread right at game start so I doubt she even had a chance to be talked out of a claim. Plus she admitted that she thought the lesson from the last game was to not claim the role specifically, and thought crumbing that the role was good would be fine.

I almost voted Ehmcee cause I don't remember their thread presence when I skinned over but then I isoed them and I'm fine with just about everything they say.
 
UncleSam said:
Realiti is posting well and I wouldn’t vote them today. Not 100% sold their town but town lean.
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An actual read lean

Celever is actually coming from a better place in terms of trying to analyze stuff recently though I still think his early D1 was bad.
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This is just kinda nothing?

I’m ok with voting fairy here not being willing to give a D1 read is insane.
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I said I was gonna keep my vote on Jalmont until he posted and he hasn’t and now it’s DL almost so I feel like this is a weird game of chicken.
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I’ll try to monitor things today though I’m at work and can’t post a ton. My vote would be on Fairy or Jalmont at this moment because both have done literally nothing and are actively trying to avoid interactions with everyone else.

I could be persuaded to vote tiger as well since he made so many terrible OMGUS / desperation posts when pressured but I’ve seen both noob maf and noob town do that. One bonus of this vote is that it would tell us a lot about Realiti because I do think a world where Realiti is scum is one where Tiger also is a highportion of the time.
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asking for elaboration and the closest thing to an actual scumread and as I'm putting this in I'm realizing it's for the same 3 people that were nullread (iirc it may have been a weirder post I had to eyeball the groups on) by realiti in #403, which may be a coincidence, but is still odd.

This post is weirdly just kinda nothing???
 
ImaginaryNeon said:
An actual read lean


This is just kinda nothing?






asking for elaboration and the closest thing to an actual scumread and as I'm putting this in I'm realizing it's for the same 3 people that were nullread (iirc it may have been a weirder post I had to eyeball the groups on) by realiti in #403, which may be a coincidence, but is still odd.

This post is weirdly just kinda nothing???
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oh yeah and the Jalmont quote would've been labeled with something along the lines of
"just stating that pressure is still being applied"
but I just forgot lol
 
a fairy said:
i know right? i saw his post going through sam's and while im not sure i agree with it im happy he's interfacing with solving the game/reading slots
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Obviously it was kind of also interfacing with my scumlean case so I tend to agree with his content but yeah, I’m very happy to see it
 
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