NOC Smogon Mafia Mafia (Won by the Mafia)

Zippy was really aggressive about lynching pulsar in a way that's almost too flagrant to be scum.
in the game that i was scum with zippy he wanted to hard defend our partner (AG) from the vote. i thought he was town yesterday and we had similar reads on a lot of things, but seeing that we were both wrong i think he has some scum equity now
 
I felt like I was being explicitly clear with what I was doing and got zero objections

Lol that's crazy, literally Rostam flips mafia with the exact flavor of RB that pulsar claims, and that doesn't give you even a little pause? And no objections? I've been telling people pulsar was town for the better part of two days.

I went over the martyr interaction thing btw, it could be the case that rostam was still able to RB her even though he was martyred because of priority. It could also be the case that we got lucky. It doesn't really matter because realistically we have to assume both are possible.
 
Lol that's crazy, literally Rostam flips mafia with the exact flavor of RB that pulsar claims, and that doesn't give you even a little pause? And no objections? I've been telling people pulsar was town for the better part of two days.

I went over the martyr interaction thing btw, it could be the case that rostam was still able to RB her even though he was martyred because of priority. It could also be the case that we got lucky. It doesn't really matter because realistically we have to assume both are possible.

Why would RB supercede Redirection though, feels like one of the most important abilities to require redirection
 
Also I have received clarification from IPL, the fact that an attempt on my life was made by someone with a mask doesn't indicate kill flavor, it just means that even though I survived I didn't know who did it.

So it seems I baited the mafia kill now that Ehmcee has come clean
 
It also brings to mind what happened on d1 with 3p, if their kill gets stopped by bpv, it brings to mind that they probably get a kill every night

We're actually back to not seeing any confirmed 3p kill attempts at all. I had just assumed mafia shot pulsar because you know, they lost the RB to use on the info role and she was pretty much lock town after that day, but apparently that would be ridiculous.

I was so looking forward to seeing "no deaths" today
 
I actually think massclaim wouldn't be crazy here. I'm alive, Sam's alive, we're both almost certainly town, there's no one in the business better than the two of us at sussing out the mechanical implications of things.

What do you think UncleSam ? Risk of exposing some of our other important roles but we could winnow down some of these other people in the PoE and something tells me the night actions aren't being put to good use if my BPV had to be popped, pulsar died, and no one's come clean with any relevant info.
 
Pages 46 and 82 for vote counts if we want to angelshoot there.
My thoughts:
Neon and AG town
MC town
realiti town
skip town
zippy town
I'm coming around on tiger town

scumteam fairy/Blazade/[Celever or Sam]
3p [Celever or Sam
Leaving aside the extra person as other mentioned, I've been sus of Celever and Sam. Though based on 2096, I'd say Sam is less likely, and can't be mafia (just wolf or village). And guess I was wrong about pulsar wolf.

I assume jalmont martyred pulsar and rostam rbed pulsar n1
yeah so jalmont didn't martyr rostam, otherwise jalmont would have been escorted by rostam and not pulsar
Care to elaborate on the reasoning? Did I miss something about what he said?

For someone with vote power who ended up on Rostam in the end, AG sure jumped around to a lot of random wagons to see what stuck yesterday. Can you explain your thought process and what you learned from that Aura Guardian ?
My thoughts were bouncing around nagging me in every way and I didn't want to risk a tie.

HH what the literal fuck is this post

You realize that you put THE ENTIRE WAGON trying to save the mafia roleblocker and vote for the town tracker in your town list? Then put the people pushing the mafia roleblocker in your mafia list?

My guy you gotta go back and totally rethink things because you’re about as off base as you could be based on the hard evidence we have. Only thing you’ve potentially got right is Celever I think is a strong candidate for mafia teammate with Rostam, as pointed out by Blazade.
Suddenly a lot less sus of Sam, and a lot more of HH.

Vote HydrogenHydreigon

Vote Ehmcee
I'll add Ehmcee to my sus list, but not voting him yet.
 
Votes. I've taken the liberty of marking myself and Neon as likely town due to D1 votecount shenanigans.

Day 1:
pulsar512b (6+1): Ehmcee, HydrogenHydreigon, realiti, Rostam, skippergamez, ZippyDoo200, +ImaginaryNeon
skippergamez (6+1): a fairy, Aura Guardian (2), Blazade, Celever, pulsar512b, Tigershark/genius1
UncleSam (1): ImaginaryNeon
Abstained: Jalmont, UncleSam

Day 2:
Rostam (6) - a fairy, Aura Guardian, Blazade, pulsar512b, Tigershark/genius1, UncleSam
pulsar512b (4) - Ehmcee, realiti, Rostam, ZippyDoo200
HydrogenHydreigon (2) - Celever, skippergamez
ZippyDoo200 (1) - ImaginaryNeon (did you change this with announce power?)
Abstained: HydrogenHydreigon

Current likely scumlist, not limiting myself to 3: Celever, Ehmcee, HydrogenHydreigon, maybe one of realiti/skipper. I think those 5 have at least 2/3 of the remaining scum.
 
AG is currently my top candidate for the 3p.

3p hasn't been able to confirm a kill in two cycles, so they may not have a kill power. If they aren't something like a jester, the only way a 3p wins the game is with vote power.

AG has openly admitted that his role has limitations and there's more to it that he won't discuss for "endgame" considerations. Plenty of people have enough foresight to consider the endgame, but the only person in the entire game who MUST consider their endgame is the 3p.

There are plenty of ways I could be wrong, and the only reason I'm not immediately trying to vote him out is because of my soul read on him from earlier. This is one reason I think massclaim would be useful, I want to be able to weigh all the options
 
Mayors need to consider the endgame, too! Especially since IPL is old-school, and mayor can screw with parity to sneak a win in 1v1 or 2v2 with a bodyguard.

Note the wincon on mafia. ALL non-mafia dead. Not 3p dead and parity with village.
 
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