NOC Charge Me Up! Mafia GAME OVER MAFIA (psy, Laurel, af) WINS!

Psypsypsypsypsythe said:
"youre wrong but youre right"
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Psypsypsypsypsythe said:
mc has been a complete non factor in this game. hes barely engaged in discussion with anyone and hes maybe the only player whos just barely been discussed and has never been a major point of discussion as far as reading when it seems like people are pretty scattered on him overall so im not sure why mc is allowed to coast the way he has been
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Most of my contributions this game has been in trying to understand/solve the setup, which are turning out to be pretty fruitless, but I've at least attempted to drop some of my thoughts out and about as the game's gone on
 
Psypsypsypsypsythe said:
one of my biggest grievances with you is how quickly youve accepted this theory as complete and utter fact because i think its a bit ridiculous and it kinda reads to me like youre pocketing laurel hard. why would scum target you with this?
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you posted this right as I was playing a tour series but basically for the reasons Laurel has given. I think if they understood the setup, then they did it to ensure I wouldn't be PR, and to ensure that they weren't putting more PRs into the game than they needed to by "wasting" their charges all on me. I think that I'm a sensible target for this, because I have an overinflated presence in mafia games compared to my actual worth as a player, and so throwing votes on me looks kinda towny cos they can pretend to be drinking my juice but actually if I get a role then I'm prob misfiring with the PR abils I kinda suck as town PR.

I've also just chainsmoked scum games so could be considered somewhat LHF to vote out or, more likely, to shoot out of the game. I'm a good candidate for being nked early and not a particularly common early doc target.

If they didn't understand the setup and thought they were just throwing charges on me and I'd definitely get whatever PR I wanted, I think it does still make sense for them to throw all their charges on a town player, assuming that their team doesn't have anyone who people wouldn't blink at having a bunch of charges. A lot of diff players can charge me up and if they claim it honestly people will be like "eh, fine", and most scum teams won't have a player like that. The other main possibility is Tommy, but he was the first to point out how the setup actually worked (least votes above 0 gets the role) so he's happily precluded from this universe. It means that their charges can't be used to find each other, by town doing the maths during mass claim and working out the holes, but also means that their charges haven't powered up town in a broad manner, instead all being on one player and therefore deleted when that player dies. They still intend to shoot me out of the game here, in fact they probably intend to do that more so than in universe one.

I just think on balance, it's the clearly optimal scum strategy. I don't think that should be in question, the question instead is do a scum team come up with and execute this strategy during the pre-game.

Considering at least 2 people are probably lying about charging me or not, I think the answer is yes.
 
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hey so Psypsypsypsypsythe, imperfectluck, Ehmcee, a fairy, and i guess Etay it would be nice tou have your reads in here
 
Ehmcee said:
One thing I do agree with you on however is how weird it is that Celever insta-town cored me
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tbf I explained why I did it so forcefully on D2, and it's because I thought you claimed desperado but you're actually not desperado LOL

but I did also towncore you on D1 (which no one called out as weird and I find that weird given how D2 has gone) and I don't even fully understand my reasoning for that. I also placed you at the bottom of it on D1 cos I think everyone else was slightly more mechanical but I am just hard townvibing you it's the spot we're in lol
 
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