No Mamoswine Weak, guaranteed.

My last team, which was pretty much all-out attacking, worked nicely and got me a good winning streak. Still, I fancy a change of pace, and therefore I introduce to you:

My balanced and less offensive team

Granted, it's not the catchiest of titles. Still, I quite like the team and all of the pokes on it, and it's been pretty decent in battle. Bonus points to whoever guesses what the nicknames are based on.

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Mastermind
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Porygon2 @ Leftovers
Ability: Trace
EVs: 252 HP/68 Def/80 SAtk/108 SDef
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam
- Magic Coat
- Recover

Perhaps my favourite pokemon, Porygon2 was cruelly kicked off my last team as it had no place in it. Thankfully, it has a solid role in my newest team and really screws with many leads.
  • Gyarados (13090 leads) - Porygon2 is the Gyarados counter.
  • Gengar (12669 leads) - If it tries to hypnosis me, it gets hypnosised right back. If it focus blasts me, I'm dead. Still, in my experience most lead with hypnosis, thinking I'll switch.
  • Bronzong (11696 leads) - Magic Coat it if it tries to sleep me. Might get up rocks, but it does little else.
  • Tyranitar (10024 leads) - Switch to machamp.
  • Salamence (9885 leads) - Survives a specs meteor and OHKOs with Ice Beam the vast majority of cases. Intimidates physical variants.
  • Hippowdon (8437 leads) - Ice beam, which is a 2 hit KO in most cases, a 3 hit KO if it has some SpDef EVs. All it can really do is SR anyway.
  • Ninjask (6880 leads) - Attack and wait for the switch really.
  • Yanmega (6196 leads) - Hypnosis gets magic coated right back. If no hypnosis, I can attack with T-Bolt/IB.
  • Abomasnow (6103 leads) - Seeders are met with a magic coat that does nothing to either poke. Scarf versions are not too bad to deal with. It's a mediocre poke.
  • Weavile (5876 leads) - Switch to Scizor, Swampert or Machamp, depending on my mood. :toast:
  • Metagross (5798 leads) - Switch to Swampert.
  • Roserade (5767 leads) - Magic coat the sleep powder, forcing it to switch out.
  • Infernape (5637 leads) - Run to Starmie and pray that it CCs.
  • Jolteon (5636 leads) - I can switch to Swampert, or attack it and just kill any subs. It can't do anything to me, as I trace Volt absorb.
  • Breloom (4933 leads) - Magic coat.
So it does very well against common leads. Usually I'd run t-wave over magic coat, but with so many sleep moves, magic coat has proven to be invaluable. I :heart: Porygon2.

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Tornado
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Starmie @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 172 HP/216 Spd/120 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Surf
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam
- Recover

Starmie is another of my favourite pokemon, and it's a necessity on this team rather than a choice as I have a massive mixape weak otherwise. Anyway, I'm running counterstar Starmie as I really don't find the need to spin usually. Most of my team resists SR, and I like the extra coverage that this set gives me. I run this over Specsmie (which I normally run) because the extra bulk is needed.


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Apple Country
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Bronzong @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP/152 Atk/8 Def/96 SDef
Relaxed nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Gyro Ball
- Stealth Rock
- Hypnosis
- Earthquake


OK, I no longer have a Mamoswine weak. This does its job of avoiding EQs and setting up rocks, sleeping threats and taking hits. It's good at what it does, though the lack of recovery can be a problem. Also, why doesn't this get heal bell? It makes no sense!

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Hail Satan
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Scizor (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Technician
EVs: 232 HP/252 Atk/24 Def
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Swords Dance
- Night Slash
- Quick Attack
- Brick Break

Scizor is awesome looking, and pairs nicely with Swampert as it takes grass moves with very little risk and sets up. This set is priceless, as people send in stuff like Infernape as I SD only to be killed by quick attack, of all things. Night Slash covers ghosts, and Brick Break covers Steels. Unfortunately, there's no room for roost, but this is deadly late game, and Technician+Swords Dance+Life Orb boosted quick attack really hurts.

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Bomb This Track
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Salamence (M) @ Choice Specs
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 4 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Modest nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Draco Meteor
- Dragon Pulse
- Fire Blast
- Hydro Pump


Standard specsmence. Very little enjoys the prospect of switching into this, and it makes a decent switch into Hera thanks to intimidate and the fact that it resists Hera's STABs. Draco Meteor hits very, very hard, and is good for knocking massive chunks out of my opponent's team. The rest of the move provide coverage against stuff that resists Draco Meteor. Salamence also gives me another fire resist, to compensate for my two fire weaks, and gives some good special attacking power.


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Bring The Pain
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Machamp (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: No Guard
EVs: 252 HP/252 Atk/4 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dynamicpunch
- Ice Punch
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

I'm running out of colours. Anyway, this thing is great, It takes status for my team and hits hard with Dynamicpunch. Ice Punch over Stone Edge for extra dragon coverage, and because it has more PP, which was an issue with Stone Edge. Confusion is really fricking annoying, and very little likes coming in on this, the exceptions being Slowbro and ghosts. Fighting is quite a nice defensive typing.

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I'm pretty pleased with this team. Having a change from the all out offence of my last team is nice, and this has good synergy in my eyes and has been fairly effective. Point out any problems and rate my team.
 
the title claims no mamoswine weak but cbswine destroys your entire team with earthquake O_o

(well any cber with stabbed eq for that matter)
 
the title claims no mamoswine weak but cbswine destroys your entire team with earthquake O_o

(well any cber with stabbed eq for that matter)

Yes. CB Mamoswine and Garchomp both hurt this team a lot.

Vansonbee said:
that true, but most of the time mamoswine use ice shard adamant cb built to attack,( he has many weakness btw)

Not true at all. CB Mamoswine only uses Ice Shard when it needs to because it's outsped. I don't know what users you've gone up against that use Mamoswine, but it definatly uses EQ just as often as Ice Shard.
 
yeah that's horrible reasoning. every single time cbswine and cbchomp come in they're going to get a kill. this also applies to heracross. you just have no way to handle popular cbers.

(at the minimum i'd put gliscor > swampert)
 
Even Gliscor won't help vs. Swampert when it comes to Mamoswine or Garchomp, but it will at least solve your Heracross problem.

Something that would put your CB Garchomp and Mamoswine fears to rest would be Bronzong. Levitate allows it to skip out on those hard hitting CB / Life Orb EQ's, and it's Steel typing resists Dragon, Ice and Rock (three other types of attacks these pokemon generally throw around).
 
yeah iggybot you're right, the only reason i didn't suggest that though is because bronzong is really the only true counter to mamoswine. so for mamoswine weak teams i don't want to constantly post "use bronzong" :/ i feel as if a team has enough members that can take a hit and deliver back an ohko there's really no need to force them to use zong.
 
Oh, I know Jabba, I realize I've been recomending Bronzong to much lately. I brought Bronzong up here however, because it also fixes his weakness to CB Garchomp, which is another thing that will tear this team up.
 
OK, I've replaced Swampert with Bronzong, but I now want to get rid of Lucairo as it gives me a massive fire weakness. I could just chuck a Specsmence on there, as it resists fire, helps somewhat against Heracross, and hits really hard. IDK, any suggestions?
 
Either Salamence or Gyarados would fit nicely. They both resist fire, have intimidate, and can switch into Heracross a few times (barring Stone Edge)
 
The team lacks speed, with only Starmie as above average. An Azelf could do tons of damage here...

Scizor with Quick Attack is good here, but needs a SD to really do damage, perhaps scarf the Machamp, or get a Weavile?
 
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