EQ Arch. Ok, yes I know its rare.
But seriously tho that fact that only Clod can switch into it safely is wack. The problem is that Clod can't hit it reliably to KO it as far as I know. I could be wrong, but that's how I see it.
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But seriously tho that fact that only Clod can switch into it safely is wack. The problem is that Clod can't hit it reliably to KO it as far as I know. I could be wrong, but that's how I see it.
if deo-d appears in a conversation about checks and counters, something is deeply wrong
EQ arch is generally a bad move, except in specific team, but yes I see what you mean
clodsire amnesia Is used just because of him, I used blissey… but he have body press.
So ig Tera ghost blissey is also a counter
the next banworthy Pokémon in my opinion is raging bolt
How about Hazards?
First of all, it only switches in once, secondly you’re running LO and Tera Fighting. Not only can the LO chip after Electro Shot kill you, but you’ve spent Tera just to kill it.
Electro Shot always hits at +1, so it's killing Keld. Not to mention the very common Tera Fairy, which makes it tank your Secret Sword
sorry, going to delete the post because I am stupid, thanks to yall for helping...
Does Glowking work?
252+ SpA Archaludon Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Slowking-Galar: 153-181 (38.8 - 45.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
+1 252+ SpA Archaludon Electro Shot vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Slowking-Galar: 153-181 (38.8 - 45.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
I take rain with Chilly Reception. You take 38%. I get 33% back. Fair trade!
Some fun ideas:
Does Glowking work?
252+ SpA Archaludon Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Slowking-Galar: 153-181 (38.8 - 45.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
+1 252+ SpA Archaludon Electro Shot vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Slowking-Galar: 153-181 (38.8 - 45.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
I take rain with Chilly Reception. You take 38%. I get 33% back. Fair trade!
Some fun ideas:
- Snarl (screw your boosts)
- Eerie Spell (screw your PP)
- Stored Power+Calm Mind/Ammnesia
- Dig Stalling
- RestTalk
- Light Screen/Reflect
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GKing tends to just let Arch power up. It does 40ish and then 50ish with Electro Shot in return for a free pivot. But so few things OHKO Arch and now it’s +2 SAtk without taking much damage, so even without rain it’s suddenly a huge threat. These GKing sequences are part of why Arch is so good as normally GKing is very disruptive into weather.
We don't know, that is up to the council to decide. They might not even suspect it. They might suspect something else before anything happens with Raging Bolt.
I believe that bolt has a good counter. Someone who is unaware of his power.
252+ SpA Raging Bolt Dragon Pulse vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Clodsire: 115-136 (24.8 - 29.3%) -- guaranteed 5HKO after Leftovers recovery (and recover exists)
Oops…I believe that bolt has a good counter. Someone who is unaware of his power.
252+ SpA Raging Bolt Dragon Pulse vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Clodsire: 115-136 (24.8 - 29.3%) -- guaranteed 5HKO after Leftovers recovery (and recover exists)
252+ SpA Raging Bolt Weather Ball (100 BP Water) vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Clodsire in Rain: 272-320 (58.7 - 69.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
Raging bolt is also broken, he have a perfect double type, rly good signature move, and is strong as hell in rain. He’s also broken in sun :
252+ SpA Protosynthesis Raging Bolt Weather Ball (100 BP Fire) vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Clodsire in Sun: 175-207 (37.7 - 44.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
...fine you got me. Just looking at the main set which was shown, sorry lol. Better research more next time!
Yeah, but Bolt kinda has some 4MSS. It wants all of:
- Thunderclap
- Thunderbolt/Thunder
- Dragon Pulse/Draco Meteor
- Weather Ball
- Calm Mind
- Volt Switch
- Tera Blast
Torkoal v.2 (Raging Bolt) @ Heat Rock
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Modest Nature
IVs: 20 Atk
- Solar Beam
- Sunny Day
- Volt Switch
- Weather Ball
But if Clod is there to counter Arch, then it should have Water Absorb because Arch is usually on rain... right?
I hope you are joking… arch haven’t water love
I believe they mean that it is there to help with the rest of the rain team as well.
im surprised we have a lack of choice specs archaludon anything, stamina defense boosts into weak moves increase opportunities to fire devasting draco meteors and flash cannons, stealth rock may ran to capitalise on switch ins
SPECS ARCHALUDON:THE LAST RIDE
Archaludon @ Choice Specs
Ability: Stamina
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Aura Sphere
- Dragon Pulse/ stealth rock/ thunder wave
- Flash Cannon
- Draco Meteor
one more thing, good news for sweats pushing high ladder because after months of preparation
latias has finally overcome her fear of skydiving!
SPECS ARCHALUDON:THE LAST RIDE
Archaludon @ Choice Specs
Ability: Stamina
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Aura Sphere
- Dragon Pulse/ stealth rock/ thunder wave
- Flash Cannon
- Draco Meteor
one more thing, good news for sweats pushing high ladder because after months of preparation
latias has finally overcome her fear of skydiving!
You say that like its a promise instead of a prediction
Like, youre gonna guarantee that outcome kinda promise
Why. Why? Whyyyyyyyyyyyyy.
I don't get it.one more thing, good news for sweats pushing high ladder because after months of preparation
latias has finally overcome her fear of skydiving!
Yes that is what I meant
Hey guys long time no see I've been losing to shit like relic song scarf meloetta getting 3 sleeps consecutively on me in low ladder
So what do you guys think about
in general rn? I mean yeah yeah I get obliterated by raging bolt but nothing's new on that front, but else from that I think it's still pretty solid. I mean I've been using a scarf set with razor, ceaseless, sacred (I uhh gambit dies trust!! Also it hits arch and kyurem so that's that) and flip turn
I mean yeah I still die to uhm.... Every hyper powered threat to exist, BUTTT It can do stuff yep mhm trust
So what do you guys think about
in general rn? I mean yeah yeah I get obliterated by raging bolt but nothing's new on that front, but else from that I think it's still pretty solid. I mean I've been using a scarf set with razor, ceaseless, sacred (I uhh gambit dies trust!! Also it hits arch and kyurem so that's that) and flip turn I mean yeah I still die to uhm.... Every hyper powered threat to exist, BUTTT It can do stuff yep mhm trust
Heck, I'll guarantee it. You need to learn to read the way the wind is blowing.
And before some clever person says they don't trust my guarantees, I'll spell it out for everyone. It's not about what I think. It's about what the majority of qualified players think. Finch may not be able to outright guarantee it due to his position, but he is certainly connected enough to know better than most of us. If someone like me can tell, he can certainly tell. Arch ban is coming. Bank on that.
So what do you guys think about
It's pretty good if you are looking for hazards. I actually like Assault Vest because you can switch into things like Gholdengo and slow pivot or get up a free spike or so.
Iron Hands on Defence EVs + boost felt the best setter to me. He's a lot better at forcing switches than Treads, and he has a slower volt switch. I tried Pincurchin, Blissey, Treads and Moth and didn't like any of them much.
Oddly, the problem felt like it was the payoff. Specs Valiant or Moth sound incredible but they're just worse than things like Wake or Gouging Fire. Leaves is an underated mon, but psyblade just isn't a good move.
Use rain if you want to counter Sun. Actaully any other weather would be fine as well.
Hey guys long time no see I've been losing to shit like relic song scarf meloetta getting 3 sleeps consecutively on me in low ladder
So what do you guys think about
I mean yeah I still die to uhm.... Every hyper powered threat to exist, BUTTT It can do stuff yep mhm trust
It's an incredible lead right now, it has a super positive initial matchup into Deoxys-S, Glimmora and Rain (Pelipper / Iron Treads), Scarf is a super cool set that I'd love to see more usage, but Focus Sash and AV are both very good as well!
Try special Hamurott, it is quite great as you can use vacuum wave and tera fighting to revenge kill gambit pretty easily, you do still have 100 sp.Attack compared to 108 attack, though of course you do not have sharpness boosted special water moves. The only special move boosted by sharpness is air slash, so you do have to sometimes go mixed.Hey guys long time no see I've been losing to shit like relic song scarf meloetta getting 3 sleeps consecutively on me in low ladder
So what do you guys think about
I mean yeah I still die to uhm.... Every hyper powered threat to exist, BUTTT It can do stuff yep mhm trust
Samurott-Hisui @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Sharpness
Tera Type: Fighting
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
- Ceaseless Edge
- Vacuum Wave
- Razor Shell
- Encore
Samurott-Hisui @ Life Orb
Ability: Sharpness
Tera Type: Fighting
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
- Ceaseless Edge
- Air Slash
- Vacuum Wave
- Surf
These are two different sets using special moves that can work well.