NOC Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Mafia - Explorers - Game Thread (Game Over!)

Celever said:
Does this mean you agree with the oligarchy theory :quagchamppogsire:
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Nah but you, jal, clouds, bd, tommy all have super goofy interactions with me. By definition your "theory" strongly implied that I'm town being misdirected; however, you don't out and say this. You hedge the position somewhat and put me in the orange category while saying I'm a "sympathizer." This seems to me to be a manipulation attempt in that if I fall for it I will be inclined to agree with you in order to shake off the allegations and if I do not fall for it, you will have an easy out to shift on to me at a later time.
 
Celever said:
Anyway on that note, bluedoom I eagerly await your reply to the one thing I have repeated this game cos you expressly made me to which you have just gone back to lurking with your vote on me :boi:
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ok but what stopped you from voting m2h? Or Clouds? I would've said HH but my impression was that you were not bothered by them based off of the convo you had with him right after. Again, I'm going off of the post that I quoted a few pages ago, that doesn't feel like something a town person just ignores and does nothing about. You make it clear that you're not voting me despite being iffy about my views of the game, and think it could boil down to a disagreement. Have you actually stated what were the reads/points that I made that you actually disagreed with, because I haven't found that in any of your posts.

Like whatever you're saying right now, you could've said yesterday. I think a town!you would be right to think that there's scum in some of the people talking that you mentioned. Yet the only time where you're pushing for it is when I'm voting you? Did it not alarm you enough that laurel was a good vote despite all of that?
 
I previously thought genisu/jalmont/bluedoom had some plausibility btw and it still does somewhat if one assumes that genisus bad open as well as the results of last game made jalmont opt for a more powerscummy approach fitting him. Genius literally put bd and jalmont as his top trs with no justification.
 
M2H said:
Nah but you, jal, clouds, bd, tommy all have super goofy interactions with me. By definition your "theory" strongly implied that I'm town being misdirected; however, you don't out and say this. You hedge the position somewhat and put me in the orange category while saying I'm a "sympathizer." This seems to me to be a manipulation attempt in that if I fall for it I will be inclined to agree with you in order to shake off the allegations and if I do not fall for it, you will have an easy out to shift on to me at a later time.
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To be clear the colours are the default colours on the tiermaker lol I did not mean for the colours to mean anything

But yeah I did conclude that you are likelier town than the oligarchs themselves as the theory developed

The manip tactic is just way too much I can’t respond to that cos I’m deeply not that manipulative of a player in general lol
 
M2H said:
I previously thought genisu/jalmont/bluedoom had some plausibility btw and it still does somewhat if one assumes that genisus bad open as well as the results of last game made jalmont opt for a more powerscummy approach fitting him. Genius literally put bd and jalmont as his top trs with no justification.
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Thank you for catching on. Kinda. Very late.
 
Celever said:
To be clear the colours are the default colours on the tiermaker lol I did not mean for the colours to mean anything

But yeah I did conclude that you are likelier town than the oligarchs themselves as the theory developed

The manip tactic is just way too much I can’t respond to that cos I’m deeply not that manipulative of a player in general lol
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It would be a level 1 pocket. It's basic push and pull. I don't think that's beyond you.
 
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bluedoom said:
ok but what stopped you from voting m2h? Or Clouds? I would've said HH but my impression was that you were not bothered by them based off of the convo you had with him right after. Again, I'm going off of the post that I quoted a few pages ago, that doesn't feel like something a town person just ignores and does nothing about. You make it clear that you're not voting me despite being iffy about my views of the game, and think it could boil down to a disagreement. Have you actually stated what were the reads/points that I made that you actually disagreed with, because I haven't found that in any of your posts.

Like whatever you're saying right now, you could've said yesterday. I think a town!you would be right to think that there's scum in some of the people talking that you mentioned. Yet the only time where you're pushing for it is when I'm voting you? Did it not alarm you enough that laurel was a good vote despite all of that?
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I don’t think any of the people you listed there had a vote at the time (and if they did not one that I perceived as serious). Again, the vote was to try and dynamicise the game above all else but it happened to be on a fairly scummy player.

The takes that the oligarchy has pushed that are bad have been listed a couple times in recent posts. Find them!

I was drunk yesterday I wasn’t going full solve mode yesterday. The thread was stagnant and I wanted to switch that up a bit where it was valid to do so. You don’t need to solve the game halfway through D1 you need to facilitate later solving. I already noted the start of the oligarchy thread dynamic with the Shane point, that was continuing to develop by itself so me adding fuel to the fire only limits the validity of the later analysis anyway because I’d be intervening in hope of a pre-desired outcome to confirm my bias.

Part of unstagnating the game is widening the scope of the discourse. I already had that working theory, digging into that theory is contributing to the chaos masking most of the other players.
 
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