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M2h is right on massclaim. It was gamewinning last game and it will be close to gamewinning this one. It puts an insane amount of pressure on mafia fake claims or not.

I love how everyone advocates no mass claim but wants to wagon someone what do you think is going to happen in 10 minutes. I’m going to claim and then we move on to the next person. And they claim etc

btw advocating no vote in the last game was non optimal from a mafia perspective vs say voting neon so. I wouldn’t take that as meaning much
 
Shane the Shroomish said:
backwards in what way? you feel that they feel threatened by you and thus are trying to get you out of the game? why isn't bluedoom or jalmont voting you then?

[QUPOTE]yeah the naked votes aren't a part of it, JALMONT hopped into the group during the pulsar situation and then during the final burstposts of walls where he positioned himself favourably to have influence going into D2. Wagoning players harms that positioning, because if he's on the majority wagon that's on town then people will be less willing to listen to him tomorrow. He spent most of the day starting wagons to see what would take off anyway, but then ultimately decided to not push anyone (except priming the two lowest hanging fruits in the game at the time as possible votes).
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no vote seems to be his thing in other games too based on some comments in this one (correct me if i'm wrong)

i thought his readslist was uninspiring, sure, which is why i'd like him to be the cw to you, but i'm not really confident he's a wolf and if he isn't i think you have some serious image problems here
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Bluedoom was voting me for most of D2 and I think I’m the only person JALMONT’s voted for twice this game, tbf

Talking about my image if the JALMONT push is wrong is hardcore scum priming lol. People can be wrong. Clouds is my preferred vote within the trio anyway, which I’ve said.
 
a fairy said:
do you have the post where you pinpointed this or was this more jalmont's general disposition during the pulsar fiasco
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It was the long wallpost that people hated. He isn't forgetting that it's role madness if he's a fruit vendor or a neighbor or something like that.
 
JALMONT said:
M2h is right on massclaim. It was gamewinning last game and it will be close to gamewinning this one. It puts an insane amount of pressure on mafia fake claims or not.

I love how everyone advocates no mass claim but wants to wagon someone what do you think is going to happen in 10 minutes. I’m going to claim and then we move on to the next person. And they claim etc

btw advocating no vote in the last game was non optimal from a mafia perspective vs say voting neon so. I wouldn’t take that as meaning much
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This one has safes for mafia and 3p, it's way different
 
Alice Kazumi said:
I got the feeling that claiming early is a terrible idea and we got lucky last game with the circumstances...
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the alter you claim the better in most games, sometimes people will get trigger happy and a lot of times ego wanting to know knowledge to try "solve", but it always benefits mafia more than town to claim in a well designed setup, and charlie is a good host who has given fake claims so mass claim here is actually kind of laughably bad in early game
 
Celever said:
bluedoom was voting me for most of D2 and I think I’m the only person JALMONT’s voted for twice this game, tbf

Talking about my image if the JALMONT push is wrong is hardcore scum priming lol. People can be wrong. Clouds is my preferred vote within the trio anyway, which I’ve said.
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votes closest to eod matter because that's when they have mechanical influence and decide who dies, they're suspiciously not invested in killing you, bluedoom was willing to leave his vote on pulsar before he went to bed, jalmont doesn't even care who dies d1 when he's the leading wagon

you can accuse me of priming you if you want, i'm just giving my honest opinion
 
M2H said:
It was the long wallpost that people hated. He isn't forgetting that it's role madness if he's a fruit vendor or a neighbor or something like that.
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It’s the type of thing JALMONT would lie about forgetting as either faction to be cute tbh.

But also it doesn’t necessarily mean a default role on this site. We have games with only a couple PRs and they’re pretty niche sometimes.
 
JALMONT said:
M2h is right on massclaim. It was gamewinning last game and it will be close to gamewinning this one. It puts an insane amount of pressure on mafia fake claims or not.

I love how everyone advocates no mass claim but wants to wagon someone what do you think is going to happen in 10 minutes. I’m going to claim and then we move on to the next person. And they claim etc

btw advocating no vote in the last game was non optimal from a mafia perspective vs say voting neon so. I wouldn’t take that as meaning much
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everyone is pr, so unless you are op claim, you will die regardless of claim
 
Shane the Shroomish said:
votes closest to eod matter because that's when they have mechanical influence and decide who dies, they're suspiciously not invested in killing you, bluedoom was willing to leave his vote on pulsar before he went to bed, jalmont doesn't even care who dies d1 when he's the leading wagon

you can accuse me of priming you if you want, i'm just giving my honest opinion
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I think bluedoom just thought pulsar had a higher chance of dying than I did today. JALMONT is taking a more niche self-def approach and I don’t think it has anything to do with the players who are high up on wagons.
 
its actually beyond tilting me how poor the pr play/mechs is lmao

seriously guys, if youre town treat your role pm like the most precious secret in the world, if you are good bad or whatever - even if your role isnt that good, you are protecting good roles by not outting, mafia will absolutely try force claims, and if you do claim youre giving them a big boost
 
JALMONT said:
oh i guess tommy's reads line up with mine. so i guess he's town or I'm just very wrong and he is mafia. we'll see...

in summary

alice > saber (by very little, saber feels slightly more game engaged)
laurel, celever (probably pretty interchangeable even though i lean scum for v different reasons. just don't feel too strongly about either)
pulsar, jalmont (everyone always says they are TOWN, let's be real cmon)

af is the closest to being lean scum, joey is probably the closest to lean and dusk and hh are also in here but really mostly all in the same bucket

genisu, flanders, clouds, m2h, shane
neon, bluedoom


now that I know this game is role madness I am in favor of NOT VOTING

##unvote
##no vote
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