NOC Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Mafia - Explorers - Game Thread (Game Over!)

StupidFlandrs48 said:
I only see connections with shane and bluedoom atm, he made wagons for marth to hop on yesterday (most notably yours). Other connections are more distant and hardly above rand
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Mmmm fair enough. I mean he was making those wagons specifically to defend against JALMONT being voted out too, that’s a specific link.

But yeah I can’t think of much Shane x Clouds stuff
 
Celever said:
Mmmm fair enough. I mean he was making those wagons specifically to defend against JALMONT being voted out too, that’s a specific link.

But yeah I can’t think of much Shane x Clouds stuff
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I mean there were other reasons to doubt the jalmont wagon, like thinking Pulsar's a stronger lead. That's not terribly scummy imo
 
StupidFlandrs48 said:
I mean there were other reasons to doubt the jalmont wagon, like thinking Pulsar's a stronger lead. That's not terribly scummy imo
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But he didn’t think pulsar was a stronger lead, he allegedly thought I was. He was voting JALMONT while pulsar was the other contender before he started a wagon on me.

And his case on me is negatively coherent so I’m reading it as defending JALMONT over actually scumreading me lol
 
Celever said:
But he didn’t think pulsar was a stronger lead, he allegedly thought I was. He was voting JALMONT while pulsar was the other contender before he started a wagon on me.

And his case on me is negatively coherent so I’m reading it as defending JALMONT over actually scumreading me lol
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hmmmmmmm

I do think shane is sus with some of these reads but I don't remember that. Might iso him later but I'm lazy
 
Shane the Shroomish said:
well it's directed to him but it's my point to you

you're kinda just writing off the wagon on him as if your debate club theory is exactly the same thing as celever's oligarchy stuff but phrased better when it's really far from that, he was using it in attempt to reduce the influence of several players in the thread and pointed to specific examples of things they were saying (most notably that they were fosing him, lol)
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Shane the Shroomish said:
it has to do with the things you said related to the oligarchy, but her just saying "he was being voted because of the oligarchy stuff" is a bit simplistic, there were clear problems with specific things you mentioned about the oligarchy (i.e. you voting JALMONT because you perceived him as trying to manipulate the game state despite him naked voting all day and honestly not giving a crap about d1 to the point he no voted)
(I explained to you why this is wrong yesterday)

there was no fence sitting, i unambiguously called you a wolf and said that your death would give us more information than flipping a bunch of nullposters like saber or pulsar because you had plenty of interactions with everyone in the game

the part you wrote in quotes here is just fan fiction
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Shane the Shroomish said:
any group of 4 - 6 posters is likely to have a wolf in it automatically just by virtue of math on the rand so that isn't really saying much

nor was i pushing on celever just because je brought up the oligarchy, the points he made within his statements just didn't add up
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Alice Kazumi said:
Him being straight with us can lead to poor results if he wasn't lying, like I said in my earlier post. I think it's not worth the vote unless you are voting him for thinking he is mafia.
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Tbf him being mafia is far from out of the question, there only being one NK strengthens the case for that until we figure out the protection situation
 
Shane the Shroomish said:
none of these are strawmen, they're all things that actually happened
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They’re all things that I’ve explained to you why they’re wrong, mostly yesterday, and you’re ignoring the explanation and pushing your misreading of all my actions

The only thing you’ve actually changed your portrayal on after it being explained is you thought I was calling all of them scum… but you’re still parroting the conclusion of that which is I was just trying to undermine all of them and lessen their influences when ??? no not really and you initially dialled that back when I told you I wasn’t just saying they’re all scum
 
You are literally strawmanning my actions because you’re pretending you can read my intentions and then casing me based on those intentions, when guess what! You’re wrong!
 
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