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##vote genisu

highkey been thinking about genisu's return to thread here and it feels a little too informed. for someone newer like him. the martyr thing for example seems very pointed and too conclusive, also his baseless claim about coaching when it could be that he was the one coached all along, because he's had a hyperfixation on that idea. it's not just today. i don't like the claim about coaching having no basis whatsoever because then it doesn't seem like it's translating into any authentic scumread for him. typically a coaching read is linked to thinking someone's posts actually look coached, but he's got no subject matter here
 
Clouds said:
alright here's the thing, Laurel gave me a bulletproof vest at night... it doesn't clear him by any means, but i did receive it, it's a 1x bpv that's activated passively. he did however kinda speculate that i was mafia as a result, which doesn't track super well with someone who'd be giving me that with an intent to pocket me. again, not sure it's clearing, but since he's softing so openly, might as well be forward about it. i feel like it's a waste to use this role on me if you have the ability to gift it to one of your mafia partners though, unless he was unable to for some reason
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1. is this a bpv that can be moved from user to user? ig this kind of clears laurel... its a really stupid role if its a bpv that you have to give to your opps
 
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something like this
i think m2h gets bumped up to town if celever is a wolf like i think but i didn't do any preflip associations
don't know what to think about jalmont's wagon, doesn't feel like a bus to me, but not confident yet
 
Clouds said:
##vote genisu

highkey been thinking about genisu's return to thread here and it feels a little too informed. for someone newer like him. the martyr thing for example seems very pointed and too conclusive, also his baseless claim about coaching when it could be that he was the one coached all along, because he's had a hyperfixation on that idea. it's not just today. i don't like the claim about coaching having no basis whatsoever because then it doesn't seem like it's translating into any authentic scumread for him. typically a coaching read is linked to thinking someone's posts actually look coached, but he's got no subject matter here
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the coaching thing just feels like another thing he's copied from other players to blend in since people were theorizing on whether or not he'd be coached in the earlier scenario, i don't really get it
 
Clouds said:
and i think if genisu is mafia, then mafia didn't kill saber
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saber would be a pretty bizarre kill but his role is going to make NKA too wifom and impossible to know
obviously the RB would be redirected if he martyred jalmont like tommy said, that doesn't explain the lack of a shot from the claimed vig
otoh i thought jalmont's wagon made him look like a dadv villager
 
genisu said:
i feel like one of the newbies is def getting coached here ;-; (probably not flandrs), but i could be seeing alice being told to ghost thread(also hasnt made any real posts)
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tbf in his defense he does have subject matter here, but it's vague and directionless except for the alice comment but zzz now that i reread it it's not the worst thing ever. whatever it's fine, we've got some decent mech info coming to light since now people are gonna have to reevaluate laurel
 
Clouds said:
tbf in his defense he does have subject matter here, but it's vague and directionless except for the alice comment but zzz now that i reread it it's not the worst thing ever. whatever it's fine, we've got some decent mech info coming to light since now people are gonna have to reevaluate laurel
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i don't think he believes it really
it just looks copied, making coaching reads in the first place is weird and people did it at the start of the game for some reason
 
Clouds said:
alright here's the thing, Laurel gave me a bulletproof vest at night... it doesn't clear him by any means, but i did receive it, it's a 1x bpv that's activated passively. he did however kinda speculate that i was mafia as a result, which doesn't track super well with someone who'd be giving me that with an intent to pocket me. again, not sure it's clearing, but since he's softing so openly, might as well be forward about it. i feel like it's a waste to use this role on me if you have the ability to gift it to one of your mafia partners though, unless he was unable to for some reason
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why would you reveal this right now? seems like a weird moment to get desperate for town cred

##unvote
##vote clouds

Laurel why did you do this. why would you not give the vest to HH. well i think i can imagine why but still!!!
 
alice is one of the most important slots to solve in the game right now so of course if you're in a neighborhood and have a lead there that suggests she might be town, it's worth sharing. were you neighborized? it wasn't a byproduct of alice's action and that's confirmed?
 
also re: the coaching thing -- i can see the projection angle, but i can also see the angle of genisu trying to mimic a type of read i made in the previous game? like this is the best argument ive seen so far for a genisu vote but tbh the points genisu is making on entry arent really that good so its not giving coached to me. also the readslist before isnt really giving coached. like genisu's progression on a fairy/me just doesn't make much sense which is in line with what i expect from genisu no offense.
 
Clouds said:
i'd really rather not hear this without evidence, unless you need to keep what was said secret for a reason then explain what it is you think spews her town if you can
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she just seemed immediately crestfallen about a new player dying n1 twice in a row in their first two games and repeated this to me in the hood, feels less performative because we're in a hood that neither of us created (she at least denied it) and how it was brought up

you can call that weak if you want, it is of some value to me
 
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