NOC Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Mafia - Explorers - Game Thread (Game Over!)

last night when i was reading before i went to bed i was really sus of Clouds and M2H but I was going to wait until today and try to make an actual good post instead of a tired one

But now I can't figure out why I was sus of them :[ I was really convinced yesterday for some reason
 
For M2H I guess I feel like you're being disingenuous about the JALMONT stuff. I know he's been cryptic in the thread but I feel like it's been pretty clear the whole day that if he had information that was going to help town to share he would share it, and it is very easy to infer what that actually means for his actions last night. Feels like you are distracting the town from other solving by continuing to press just this for little gain
 
For M2H I guess I feel like you're being disingenuous about the JALMONT stuff. I know he's been cryptic in the thread but I feel like it's been pretty clear the whole day that if he had information that was going to help town to share he would share it, and it is very easy to infer what that actually means for his actions last night. Feels like you are distracting the town from other solving by continuing to press just this for little gain
who's being distracted?
 
[QUOTE="Alice Kazumi, post: 9991387]
I asked it because she seems in line with what you said about the way mafia can act on big ego fights.
She seems weirdly proactive sometimes like the no massclaim thing but goes with the wagons blindly? It can be she used the massclaim argument to make m2h presence weaker this game. I'd say it's working because m2h presence is actually weaker this game.
[QUOTE="Duskfall98, post: 9991391]
no mass claim is just the correct play ftr, on an optimal mechanical gameplay perspective

in what way do you think she's making m2h presence weaker?
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i dont think you ever gave an answer to the first point which i was curious about aswell and was :( to see you didnt exactly respond
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I didn't personally notice her doing so, I would have to read back to get a very detailed answer

however the answer I gave which I think answered my current position, is that a fairy has certainly played in a way in which mafia can, especially around the celever/Shane stuff, but its highly conditional on other elements in the game state, if celever/shane alignment were flipped (I dont want to flip them though) it woukd tell us a lot about a fairys alignment

so what a fairy is putting her energy into is certainly indicative of her alignment, if we knew more info, but we don't really so I don't really want to layer the conditionals on rn, so I'll leave it at "it's probably not a good look anyways, but I don't know if it's definitely a bad one yet"

I'm fine with any a fairy votes rn but I'd much rather laurel wagon personally
 
i don't really want to be chain killing people who have very little content/interaction in the game and crossing my fingers

i understand this isn't mountainous and to a certain extent killing any wolf helps us mechanically but what happens in the case it's a villa again is plainly awful
 
Me.
By everything.

neon you spend so much time in thread, it would be helpful if you could just catch up and give some thoughts, you have a habit of just refreshing pages on smogon, I know this since you're nearly always the first person to reply to role pms etc in like 2 minutes every time

if you're going to be in thread here, you might as well read and try your best to give something right? you've played enough now to know how the game works, I know youre capable of it now youve seen how these things work

I promise you, if you engaged and tried give some content/real thoughts on the game, you will get so much more interactions and engagement with your posts, which I do believe(?) is what you're seeking

please don't reply to this, with a "I've no thoughts joke" we all want you to take the game seriously and try, so we can take you seriously

but that has to start with you taking yourself seriously, which you can do, so please give it a chance
 
probably town: celever, flanders, clouds, bluedoom, jalmont, m2h, hydro , Shane, neon, genisu

idk: joey, a fairy, alice

can die: laurel

ok that's not good I'm pocketed
If you wanna tryhard I think turning these into two cases would be beneficial (to everyone and also for your own reads lol)
 
voting Laurel is a nothing burger that doesn't really change anything again and I'm mixed on him
I agree on this, I was mixed at the start and still am. I feel like we gain the -1 on scum and nothing else if hes scum and we lose a lot if he is town because he'd be voted out while giving no info on others.
Feels like a really bad wagon.

I'd like him to interact more though.
 
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