Cipher Admin Lovrina

when you say near flawless technician scyther, would this work?

http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=423773

and scizor version

http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=444545

Well you never told me you wanted me to do the Modest HP Grass one, so I wasn't going to anyways xD

I'll do the Bold if I can figure out how to RNG it (I think I have an idea how to!).

Sorry about that, I would like the HP Grass one :)

Didnt you say you had the bold dive ball Feebas from awhile ago? If so I would want that, And your still intrested in the Scizor (shiny or non?) and Jellicent (Which one I had a few different versions)????

Yes I can

No entralink edit.

Offensive Cune is a wallbreaker. ^^

I wouldn't use Moxie Mence until they release it with Outrage.

Someone trade it to me, its completely legit.

You never leave Gastrodon in either.

Well, it requires more team support. It can create 101 HP Subs though. If you have Toxic Spikes, it can stall out and beat Blissey. I wouldn't use it now though. A very common partner for Blissey is Tentacruel.

Yeah. A lot of my best teams don't even use a water type though lol. I just use whatever I feel like using, or whatever I need to use with what I feel like using.

I usually nail Jellicant on the switch with Toxic. You said you don't like thinking though. Gastro loses to grass, but so does Milotic. That is why being a ground type is so good. You can switch into Rotom W too. HP Grass is also very uncommon. (I usually use it on Offensive Suicune to nail Gastrodon and Rotom W. I also use it on my Rotom W too.)

I like to win with pure shock factor, without sacrificing quality. That is the best way to build teams. The best teams have some unpredictability to them.

Offensive Calm Mind is still the best set. Sub Calm Mind is also usable. I wouldn't use Crocune or the phazer sets unless you use a heal bell user, or if you have wish support though. Rest/Talk nerf is bad, especially in a more offensive metagame.

Gastrodon's main job isn't a Spec'd user though lol. It makes a Latios/water check thing.

Also Jellicant is more of a spinblocker. It can assist at breaking part defensive cores though. Outrunning Skarmory.. taunting it, burning everything.

You can win at pokemon without using a bulky water though. So once you have your teams, it might be healthy to open your mind to things which aren't your fancy. Trying new things is usually healthy. ^^

Roar or Calm Mind/Rest/Sleep Talk/Surf with 252HP/240Def/16Spe. I can Calm Mind before defensive rotom, so that is pretty good. I can also Roar before any common user of roar. I EV myself to outrun Gyarados. This is for gen 4 though lol.

Kevin Garrett still uses that team.

Its because of their typings. Their typing is very good. Storm Drain and Water Absorb are very good too. Jellicant and Gastrodon's stats are fine too. Taunt is also very good on Jellicant. It can serve as a stallbreaker of sorts.

Those pokemon remind me of team "Rotom Charge." Try making something similar to that. It is still very good in gen 4. I use Suicune > Latias on it.

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59683

Blissey will always be good lol. I don't like it on anything offensive though. It slows down your pace, momentum, and it can be set-up bait. It needs a nice bulky core to back it up, rather than being a quick fix to special attackers.

Offense/aggressive teams depends on resistences, and checks instead of walls. ^^

Be careful. That stall team has trouble with this. Sure Milotic and Terrakion can switch in, but not without getting crippled. Otherwise, it really threatens everything else on your team.

Heatran (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Substitute
- Toxic
- Earth Power
- Fire Blast

Infernape with 252Atk/64SpA/196Spe, Fire Blast/Mach Punch/Close Combat/U-Turn also seems very threatening to your team. It can 2HKO everything you have, including Milotic.

CM Virizion can set up on Milotic, and literally threaten the rest of your team pretty badly too. Those are my thoughts at a glance. Its a good team, but yeah. Those 3 threats seem annoying for you.

The only common one is CM Virizion, but those other two pokemon aren't exactly rare either, and they happen to be very good.

Thats fine. It is different from Gastrodon and Dragonite. I personally like Toxic. Dragon Tail is good enough for the dragons like Haxorus and Dragonite. Toxic lets you beat other walls. You lack Toxic Spikes on your team. I mean, you have 4 pokemon threatening burns.. but idk.

I think I will give Alice those avatar links too. She really really likes that kind of stuff. Skarmory is the no brainer thing to run on that, although you can get creative. Other good fighting resists are Sigilyph, Gliscor, Mew, Deoxys D etc. ;)

Yeah, that rain team is like my favorite. :)

I built it for Zephyr's student since he was on a hiatus. I didn't want to let Zeph down since he is my buddy. Then AB2 and I worked together to improve it. He is a smogon team rater.

I like how Dugtrio traps Jirachi and stuff like Blissey to abuse and such. Gastrodon works here too though.

Be careful around Lucario and Calm Mind Jirachi. Play smart. When I mean play smart, don't let your Ferrothorn die for no reason again! The team also gets 6-0'd by Sigilyph, so if it ever gets bad - you can run Perish Song on Politoed. (Synthos)

Dragon Tail Milotic is actually pretty cool lol. I think Life Orb is eww though. If I wanted to use Milotic, the last set I would use is Life Orb. xD

Ok, I'll definitely get it done ASAP. But if you find one before I finish, please take it!

Yeah, I guess it's just really underrated because it was NU last gen.

Are you sure? I kind of promised you I would have it done when you got back on Thursday but I didn't :(

Like I said, I'm definitely willing to restart now and play my way up to the location where Shellos-Ea is found!

Edit: I know it doesn't need HP Grass but my current shiny spread is Ability 0 which is not Sticky Hold. If it was Ability 1 it would've been perfect :/

I'm sorry if I'm going at a slow pace for you, but I just beat Crasher Wake on Pt and I plan on restarting after I used my shiny spread for all the stationaries and roamers (Palkia, Dialga, maybe Giratina, Darkrai, Shaymin, Rotom, Cresselia, Mesprit, Azelf, and then one wild pokemon; Chinchou). I'll go as fast as possible.

But if you want the Shellos ASAP then I can restart this file and abuse for the Modest/Timid HP Grass spread and then once I get the Shellos, restart and go back to this file and then go to the Bold spread. Ugh, I'm really sorry, if I never abused for the starter Piplup I would've have shellos a while ago :(

If you're willing to wait I can definitely give it to you (If I restart now I can get it to you faster). But if you want it like, super fast and someone else can catch it for you I completely understand! So would you like me restart now (which I'm willing to do!) or are you willing to wait?

btw ferrothorn instead of skarm can work as well :D (against rotom-w); try a mixed spread (we still need physical bulk to deal with outrage-locked dragons)

yeah, rotom-w can be a real pain; celebi could help a lot there... (instead of mew, for example)

or spdef jirachi (instead of tran) in tandem with milo can take a shot as well, w/o breaking too much the core of the team (the key is to get rotom-w paralyzed/toxic'ed at some point)

Haxorus is such a great pokemon. I like Lilligant too. You never told me any of that. XD

That Milotic team looks good by the way. I like that team much more just because it doesn't use Gastrodon.

You can but... we need to polish it a little bit more...

As for the balanced/bulky offense... well, we might try out another gimmick as well :P, but now I g2g, so we'll address that issue tomorrow or during next week, okay?

Also I'd like you to take note on any trouble the team we just made has. It's necessary to improve it properly

Have a good night n_n