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    Resource RBY & Tradebacks Bug Report Thread

    I've since had this happen even when I clicked Fight, so I don't think it's dependent on what move is clicked
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    Resource RBY & Tradebacks Bug Report Thread

    https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen1ou-2407679910 On turn 37, I Wrap the opposing Chansey. On turn 38, opponent switches to Zapdos, meaning Wrap is used again and it hits On turn 39 the second hit of Wrap misses??? I clicked Thunder Wave if anyone's wondering Pretty sure the first hit of...
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    OU RBY OU Discussion Thread

    Not to dispute your point, but I think this is a funny example bc I'm pretty sure Leer (or Tail Whip) Rhydon is significantly more relevant than Toxic
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    OU RBY OU Discussion Thread

    There's a bunch of stuff that's recommended in the teambuilder that's good in later gens but not used much in RBY, pretty sure that's the case here
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    OU RBY OU Viability Rankings

    I'm really curious what everyone's thoughts are on Persian. We're seeing a huge spread in terms of where people are ranking it with some people putting it on the fringes of b and others putting it towards the bottom of D and now Serpi putting it in E, below stuff like Golem. I haven't used it...
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    Resource RBY Simple Questions & Simple Answers Thread

    The frustrating thing about that is that we didn't do that on Pokemon Perfect to be different, it was because we saw it as an upgrade. I'm pretty sure Lutra's said that the numerical convention was intended to improve upon smogon's convention and not just be a PP thing
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    Resource RBY Simple Questions & Simple Answers Thread

    Dude what the fuck is SU, these tiers don't make any sense. Smogon seriously needs to adopt a numerical convention. I already don't know which of PU or ZU is supposed to be higher, never mind idk QU or whatever else people come up with edit: although I get why stuff like OU/UU/NU wouldn't like...
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    OU RBY OU Viability Rankings

    I think Tarvold as well. Wholeheartedly agree with this though. Tbh I wouldn't post every pokemon since there's a lot still for me to test, but I'd feel very weird ranking stuff like Farfetch'd and not something like Kingler lmao
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    OU RBY OU Viability Rankings

    So the logic behind the Wrap gang ranking seems dubious to me. The premise that Dragonair, Weepinbell and Arbok should be B- bc Victreebel and Dragonite are, seems to assume that either the only viable team which utilises Dragonite or Victreebel also requires Dair, Wbell and Arbok, or that...
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    OU RBY OU Viability Rankings

    Here's my VR, since no-one asked for it (also aren't we overdue for an update?) So anyway, from D2 downwards there's a lot of uncertainty, as not all of these pokemon I've tested adequately- I've ranked them based on theorymon and a bit from reading discussion from other people. Technically...
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    OU RBY OU Viability Rankings

    Honestly Zam's decline is kinda interesting to watch. I will try to put together a full VR at a later date (not that mine matters these days), but I'm firmly on board with it being below Zap/Don. I think at this point its best frame of reference might even be Jynx, which seems wild to me, but...
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    Proposal Sleep Clause, Freeze Clause and the ulterior failure of Smogon tiering

    Shoutout Hipmonlee for helping to clarify about the origin of these mods Yeah, I agree with Legitimate Username in highlighting the absurdity of those freeze clause stats. I really think those gens 2-4 ought to be looking critically at freeze clause and whether it's really necessary. Beyond...
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    Proposal Sleep Clause, Freeze Clause and the ulterior failure of Smogon tiering

    So as kind of a side note, there are 2 proposals for cart accurate sleep clause- DQ, or to prevent selection of sleeping moves when the clause is active. Preventing selection of sleep moves creates an array of interactions where its behaviour can be awkward, although how relevant they are varies...
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    Proposal Sleep Clause, Freeze Clause and the ulterior failure of Smogon tiering

    You do realise that improving cart accuracy and having a competitive game are not mutually exclusive goals right? What you're describing sounds an awful lot to me like we shouldn't even try, and just accept whatever bastardised implementation was here first, because of long forgotten decisions...
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    Proposal Sleep Clause, Freeze Clause and the ulterior failure of Smogon tiering

    That rings a bell, but it's really a shame that it wouldn't be considered. With proper measures in place to prevent accidental DQs I really don't think it's unreasonable and it is honestly exactly how you would logically implement sleep clause if we didn't already have the mod in place on the...
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