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Disappointing that the topic leader has taken away the public's right to weigh in on the fire coverage debate by unilaterally declaring that Flame Burst is all we can have. We're supposed to be voting on controversial moves. Flame Burst is the exact...
I disagree with the calcs that purport to show that Flamethrower is too powerful. It does not 2HKO Pyroak or Mega Venusaur. All you're showing is that Flamethrower 2HKOs Pyroak if it happens to be at 58% health. I think you'll find a lot of moves 2HKO a lot of things if you make such a drastic...
WIP: Weather Ball, Do we need it?
Initially I like everyone else thought that this move was guaranteed because of how perfectly it seems to fit the concept. I've changed my mind, and I'll explain why.
After some discord discussion, we thrashed out the reasons in favor of having Weather Ball...
That's exactly what being 'indistinguishable in practice' means. Unless you want to argue that the base power difference of Heat Wave makes a significant difference? I thought the fact it's so small as to be dwarfed by even damage roll variance precludes this.
And yes, weakening the sand set is...
That was in the context of the rest of the post - in that sets with 2 attacking moves or a specific z-crystal perform better against the specific check/counter it's meant to beat but drastically worse against everything else.
Also I think the scaremongering around growth is ridiculous. Keep in...
Can I point out that the actual tree and mask are African in design, and that the only Japanese influence at all in this design is the sash?
I'm a bit uncomfortable with all the full blown Japanese being touted when the design is clearly African inspired. I think the amount of Japanese-related...
-Defog/Rapid Spin: Zephias already made a good point about this. CAP is a bad candidate for role compression due to its limited moveslots. It needs 3 attacks to have competent offensive coverage against what we want it to hit. Leaving only one moveslot to play around with, which in most cases...
The point is - why would you ever use a Trace set at all? Why not just run Drought + Weather Ball even on a sand team when it makes your fire move 250% as powerful as HP Fire?
The question of Lava Plume is a different one I think, it functions quite differently as a move so there is a decision to be made between Flamethrower and Lava Plume should both be available. There is no such decision between Heat Wave and Flamethrower - Flamethrower is superior.
Also you don't...
Heat Wave
I'm absolutely convinced that CAP needs fire coverage to function as intended. Not just Weather Ball; that would give Drought an extremely powerful exclusive weapon that Trace couldn't hope to compete with, meaning Trace usage would be severely low. I already think that Drought is...