IMO Mew's traditional stallbreaker set of IB (sometimes stoss) Wisp Taunt really struggled into the influx of Clef and Reuni the past year. Even with those mons dipping somewhat, the set is often too much of a liability into certain mons such as Tran or Volc, so it brings a pretty high risk with only mediocre reward. Mew still has a ton of very useful tools of course, so even with its mid typing and susceptibility to residual damage, it could find a meta niche with a new set again.
I also think this is a great point. Jirachi is one of the most used Pokemon, but frequently ranked outside of the top 15 (and even lower).
Latios would fit much better in that team
I don’t think Latias is S-tier or the second-best mon in BW OU. It’s good, obviously, but the idea that it’s basically the same as Latios in most situations is just not true. The Special Attack gap (110 vs. 130) is massive and makes a real difference in how both function in practice.
The BW Staff have just finished updating Viability Rankings for OU, thanks to all those who submitted their VRs- Not possible without you guys.Welcome to the BW OU Viability Ranking thread. This thread contains a ranking of every viable Pokemon, separated in tiers to indicate power gaps. You may notice that they are not ranked alphabetically within their own subtiers; that is because every Pokemon is ranked within their subranks too. For example, if Latios and Ferrothorn are both S rank, but Latios is ranked higher than Ferrothorn, then Latios is the better one of the two.
Keep in mind that rankings are subjective and that your opinion is not a fact, but rather, you should use facts to support your opinions.
BW2 OU Ranking tier list V8
S
S rank Pokemon are the best of the best and are usable in any team or structure. They define the metagame and no other Pokemon available can do what they do. They require no support to utilize and are capable of supporting teams extremely well. You are doing your opponent a favor by not using these Pokemon.
S-
S- rank Pokemon are similarly powerful compared to S Rank Pokemon, although they not have the same ability to be put onto any team or structure. Their effectiveness warrants their place on any team that appreciates their traits and they should be accounted for when building a team just as much as an S Rank Pokemon.
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A+
A+ ranked Pokemon are staples in the current metagame but their offensive/defensive presence is less notable than S rank Pokemon, yet one should consider them without hesitation when building. They are all capable in their own right, easy to use, and proficient in providing great support while requiring little to no support.
A
A Rank Pokemon are a less capable than A+ because they are either more limited in overall capabilities and roles or have exploitable flaws, but the team utility/function they provide can't be matched. They are all very capable offensively/defensively. A rank Pokemon may require support to work.
A-
A- rank Pokemon have glaring flaws but maintain unique capabilities that enable them to be large threats in the current meta, creating powerful offensive/defensive pairings. Pokemon in this rank will require support to be utilized properly.
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B+
B+ rank have a more specific function in the metagame that they are capable of fulfilling quite well. While they boast great capabilities, they require more support to work than A- rank Pokemon. These Pokemon are limited to specific roles/archetypes and/or require a lot of support to be utilized properly.
B
B rank Pokemon are far more limited in how they can be utilized, either fulfilling very specific roles, and requiring a lot of support to work well. Their success in their role is less of guarantee as well.
B-
B- rank Pokemon have obvious flaws with limited capabilities and are outclassed by higher ranked Pokemon. They fulfill very specific roles and are not easily put into a team. They are very hard to use and requires a LOT of team support.
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C
C rank Pokemon are viable, but you are probably better off trying another Pokémon than using these. They have unique niches and are usable on teams tailored to support them. C rank Pokemon can find success against certain match ups, but their success is not a guarantee.
S:
1.Latios
2.Tyranitar
S-:
3.Landorus-Therian
4.Ferrothorn
5.Excadrill
A+:
6.Alakazam
7.Keldeo
8.Starmie
9.Dragonite
10.Jirachi
11.Rotom-Wash
12.Politoed
13.Garchomp
A:
14.Thundurus-Therian
15.Skarmory
16.Reuniclus
17.Gliscor
18.Volcarona
A-:
19.Terrakion
20.Scizor
21.Latias
22.Mamoswine
23.Tentacruel
24.Heatran
25.Hippowdon
B+:
26.Celebi
27.Jellicent
28.Conkeldurr
29.Kyurem-Black
30.Magnezone
31.Clefable
32.Amoonguss
33.Abomasnow
B:
34.Breloom
35.Seismitoad
36.Slowbro
37.Blissey
38.Tornadus
39.Forretress
40.Xatu
41.Hydreigon
42.Slowking
B-:
43.Gastrodon
44.Gyarados
45.Bronzong
46.Salamence
47.Chansey
48.Cresselia
C:
49.Kyurem
50.Mew
51.Ninetales
52.Zapdos
53.Mienshao
54.Aerodactyl
55.Ditto
56.Victini
57.Tangrowth
58.Gengar
59.Alomomola
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Nov 2021 Ranking:
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April 2021 Ranking:
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Mew
Xatu
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Latios =0Tyranitar =0Landorus-Therian =0Ferrothorn +1Excadrill -1Alakazam +2Keldeo -1Starmie +8Dragonite +6Jirachi +3Rotom-Wash +6Politoed -2Garchomp +1Thundurus-Therian -5Skarmory -4Reuniclus -9Gliscor -5Volcarona +3Terrakion +3Scizor -1Latias +7Mamoswine -2Tentacruel -5Heatran +6Hippowdon -2Celebi +1Jellicent -2Conkeldurr +14Kyurem-Black +2Magnezone -4Clefable -2Amoonguss +5Abomasnow -1Breloom -10Seismitoad +12Slowbro -1Blissey -1Tornadus -4Forretress =0Xatu +8Hydreigon +9Slowking +2Gastrodon -10Gyarados -6Bronzong -5Salamence =0Chansey -6Cresselia +4Kyurem -4Mew -7Ninetales =0Zapdos +1Mienshao +8Aerodactyl -5Ditto -1Victini =0Tangrowth =0Gengar +5Alomomola +1Lucario -5Froslass -3Toxicroak =0
Mienshao rose from irrelevant to borderline irrelevant. There was one team I recall seeing/facing with it this year, which is one more than I encountered all of last year. It has a cool offensive profile with Regenerator U-Turn and the speed tier, but it’s still very fringe due to being fragile, mono-Fighting, HJK reliant, etc.
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they arent worth the 30 seconds
even if someone on spl brings it ? and wins the game
