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The survey results are in! As always, thank you to everyone that took time to fill our survey out.

This time, we got 80 responses, which is slightly more than we got last time. That's probably due to Google Forms being more accessible than Smogon surveys, so maybe we'll stick with Google Forms going forward? We'll see.

Enjoyment and competitiveness

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The average enjoyment score is 6.98, down from last time. Tier enjoyment could certainly be a lot lower with how radically things have changed, but it's clear that action could certainly be taken to get that score up. More on that later.

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In another noticeable dip from before, perceived competitiveness ranks at 6.5 on average. This does make sense; people have pointed out how difficult building a consistent team can be with how many versatile offensive threats are running around. It's not exactly an unpopular opinion that matchup is a massive factor in plenty of games right now (more so than in previous iterations of the tier), at varying levels of play too.

Pokemon and tier elements

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As for the Pokemon that received substantial support for action... none of them did, really. Zoroark and Toxtricity got the most votes for action, but only 35% and 33.8% of respondents deem them an issue, respectively. Meloetta receiving the least backlash here makes sense, but Scyther ranks as the most broken Pokemon in the tier for multiple players and builders, so seeing it only hit 32.5% support is odd. In any case, there's no clear culprit we can identify this time, which makes it tricky to decide what to do going forward. Jumping straight into another suspect test doesn't seem too popular, so maybe it's time to let the tier breathe as SCL wraps up and PUWC continues?

In the "other concerns" section, Arcanine and Florges were brought up the most. These two Pokemon have been consistently excellent in the new meta, so it makes sense that people are worried they might be too good. Past that, Tornadus and Decidueye were mentioned some. We've seen Tornadus reach some really high highs with its monstrous Choice Specs set, while Decidueye's been quieter after it stopped dominating the tier but remains deadly. While none of these four Pokemon were on the council's radar for action, we'll be sure to keep an eye on them (and the other four Pokemon that got their own questions) and see how they develop in the near future.

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With a lack of clear support to act on the big threats, we'd really like for people to share their thoughts on things. The council is not necessarily against suspect testing anything in the near future, but right now it's difficult to pick out just one element to look at. Even in the case of Pokemon like Zoroark and Scyther, we've only really started seeing them shine again recently. Who's to say that the tier won't adapt to them, especially with multiple ongoing tournaments that will almost certain encourage metagame development? We'll have to see going forward, but the plan for now is to let things sit.

Everyone's feedback is appreciated, have a great rest of your day :heart:
 
For transparency, there is an ongoing tiering survey being conducted with PU players that...

  • ... qualified for the playoffs stage of PU Swiss III.
  • ... are starting in PU for SCL IV or have started in previous weeks.
  • ... OR are managing in SCL IV and regularly engaged with the community.

PU's council members are also all taking part, though most of us fall under one or more the above groups anyway. We missed out on doing a qualified survey this time around; this is us making up for that and trying to directly reach out to those involved with the tier at the highest level. Like before, the questions are exactly the same as those on the general tiering survey. Expect a post detailing the responses and more by Sunday afternoon/evening.
 
Hello, PoggersUsed players, qualified survey results are out!

We got 35 votes from Swiss qualifiers, SCL starters and some managers involved with the community. Thank you all who contributed to it!

Enjoyment and competitiveness

Gráfico de las respuestas de Formularios. Título de la pregunta: How much do you enjoy current SV PU right now?. Número de respuestas: 35 respuestas.
A very similar average to the regular survey, this one being only .1 point lower, 6.88. We will hopefully be able to address these numbers with things coming up in the near future.

Gráfico de las respuestas de Formularios. Título de la pregunta: How competitive do you find SV PU right now?. Número de respuestas: 35 respuestas.
Wow! Numbers are amazing, just like with the last one, there's only a difference a .1 in the vote with the regular survey test. 6.4 is not even a passing grade, so we will be working on improving these numbers!

Pokemon and tier elements

Gráfico de las respuestas de Formularios. Título de la pregunta: How do you feel about Scyther in the current meta?. Número de respuestas: 35 respuestas.

Gráfico de las respuestas de Formularios. Título de la pregunta: How do you feel about Zoroark in the current meta?. Número de respuestas: 35 respuestas.
Gráfico de las respuestas de Formularios. Título de la pregunta: How do you feel about Meloetta in the current meta?. Número de respuestas: 35 respuestas.

Gráfico de las respuestas de Formularios. Título de la pregunta: How do you feel about Toxtricity in the current meta?. Número de respuestas: 35 respuestas.

Here's where the main discrepancies start to show. A massive chunky 51.4% of the qualified playerbase wants action on Scyther and only a 20% does not. These huge numbers will definitely lead to us doing something about it, right?
As for the other mons, the closest second vote is Meloetta, with 31.4%. Definitely not enough for immediate action, but we will keep a close eye on it as the meta moves forward. Zoroark and Toxtricity come third and fourth, though it must be noted that 60% of people do not mind action of Zoroark or outright want it, so it deserves a similar amount of attention to Meloetta. Feel free to share your thoughts on these two Pokemon as things change!

Apart from this, some people brought up the likes of Salazzle and Arcanine as well as a few mentions of Tauros-Paldea-Blaze. We will keep these in mind moving forward too.

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With these results set and done, the PU Council is now deciding to suspect test Scyther. Expect the suspect test process to start tomorrow and thank you once again for contributing to the discussion. See ya tomorrow!
 
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As mentioned here, the PU council voted on Torterra, Arcanine, Galarian Articuno, and Florges with the hope of stabilizing the tier as the new meta sets in and before tournaments like PUBD II and PU Winter Seasonal start. MZ and zS opted to abstain from this vote, so this time 4 ban votes will be required to quickban something to PUBL. With that said, here are the results:

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Following this post, Torterra is banned from SV PU. Tagging Marty and dhelmise to implement this change, thank you very much in advance. Below are the reasonings; DugZa will submit his at his earliest convenience.

:sv/torterra:
5/6 - Banned
asa - I don't like what Torterra does to building, even if it's inconsistent. Dipplin and Ditto are the only reliable countermeasures for it; Fake Out/ESpeed fail against Tera Ghost and only work after Torterra's been chipped, faster Choice Scarf users are circumvented with Sticky Web support (not a tall ask), and other walls like Wo-Chien, Orthworm, and Weezing are owned by Superpower/Tera Blast Fire.

ishtar - Easily the most broken of the bunch. It doesn't always outright win but its incredibly restricting in the builder and also manages to get away with different teras/coverage in practice. Thanks a lot NU!!!!!!!!!!!

Bouff - its not like, absolutely obscene or anything. there are a decent amount of options to deal with it defensively, and it gets rked by an equally decent amount of scarfers but i don't really think having mons that dictate the gameflow as much as it does (assuming it doesn't win on the spot) is beneficial for the tier

fish anemometer - outspeeds scarfers at +2, versatile tera, not much good defensive counterplay. ridiculous mon.

kyuss - Honestly i would not be against quickbanning, as i had no issues but i know those were most likely because of some building choices i've made. Anyways I don't feel like it's too much of an issue as to not hear the community regarding that, so Do not ban for now.

:sv/arcanine:
0/6 - Not banned
asa - Our options for dealing with Arcanine are worse now, but not so much worse that it autowins in a lot of games. I'd be okay with revisiting it after Torterra and (hopefully) Galarcuno, but I don't find Arcanine overwhelming and I think it deserves more time without Gastrodon to fairly assess how healthy it is.

ishtar - I think Arcanine is probably the most consistent offensive answer in the tier, without being automatically ridiculous. I would like to keep an eye on it and I believe it could be a good suspect test candidate down the line, but as it stands, and with the other current threats in the meta, some of which are less consistent but more volatile, I believe its probably better for it to stay.

Bouff - was pretty confident i would vote ban when shifts happened, obviously gastro is extremely good for it since it was like a top 2 at worst mon before shifts. the reason im not voting quickban is that there are over a dozen mons that ranged from mediocre to ass that are better right now, and id kind of prefer to wait to see how things will shift over the next however many weeks in team compositions before giving it the banhammer.

fish anemometer - doesnt seemed excessive just yet, would like to see it in tournaments first.

kyuss - Alongside Guno seems like the biggest winners of recent meta changes, but still not something so broken that we ban without a suspect IMO. Not as troublesome as Melo was and Melo ended up not banned.

:sv/articuno-galar:
3/6 - Not banned
asa - I want to suspect this rather than quickban it. Calm Mind sets run away with games very often, but it does have games where it can struggle to get much done and hates Steels becoming better.

ishtar - I was very torn on this decision, since Articuno is not a new Pokemon in the tier, but I believe a lot of trends have made it decently stronger, mainly the rise of certain Pokemon such as Meloetta and Tornadus. Articuno has been on an upside trend for quite a while and, while this offensive meta sometimes keeps it in check naturally with decently fast threats, I do not think that it is very competitive to play around. While I would normally find it ill adviced to ban a Pokemon that's been in our tier for a while, the truth is that our shifts have been simply too changing, and PU in 2025 is the wild west of tiering. Hopefully in 3 months we can have something that works before we lose it again! Hooray!

Bouff - honestly this thing has been broken for a while now and has slowly reared its head over the past like two months, and if shifts hadn't happened i think this would have ended up being suspected anyway. on one hand, it lost a decent check in meloetta, but physical darks are a lot better right now with gastros departure, which leads it to have to tera slightly more often in some situations. it runs away with games a LOT tbh and while it does provide some nice qualities to the builder sometimes you have to dedicate way more resources than you'd like to have a chance of dealing with it.

fish anemometer - not much has changed for it besides the departure of melo which it usually beat more than not from my experience. the steels that block it early game are still here.

kyuss - Too powerful of a wincon, anyone can check lots of tour replays that guno won singlehandely. Can easily get around it's checks and counters with tera mindgames/psychic move choice that even if you prepare well can be surprised and snowballed.

:sv/florges:
0/6 - Not banned
asa - Fires and Steels are eating right now, as are strong Psyshock users like Galarcuno and Hoopa, so Florges doesn't feel overbearing either offensively or defensively to me. If PU moves away from more offensive teams and Choice Specs/CM Florges starts dominating, then I'd be willing to consider tiering action on it, but for now it feels about as healthy as it did before.

ishtar - Incredibly strong and dominant, but not broken imo. Similarly to Arcanine, I think its consistency and ability to keep many threats in check sorta give it more value than the simply broken Pokemon that are otherwise in this slate. That is not to say that keeping a potentially broken element in the tier is viable, but that I would like to see a meta developing without those restrictions.

Bouff - back when the october shifts happened this thing was a slam dunk ban in my eyes because specs / tera fairy scarf seemed really ridiculous, but it hasn't been that overwhelming. honestly it's a good defensive piece for the tier, one of the few ones at that - like guno it can sometimes run away with games because cm ends up being immortal but it definitely doesnt reach any threshold for a quickban. the tier has an opportunity to become a lot more offensive with the shifts and i don't think that'll propel florges to a pokemon that needs to leave

fish anemometer - idk what this is doing on here tbh

kyuss - Really good but not broken slash centralizing enough

Thank you for your patience, and expect another update soon. Have a nice rest of your day :)
 
PU's 8th Tiering Survey

The meta has settled since tier shifts and the Galarian Articuno suspect test, and two tournaments involving SV PU are currently underway, so the council wants to know how the playerbase feels about the state of the tier. We currently do not have any tiering action plans, but enough support for action on something may change that, so why not fill out our latest and greatest survey? Make your voice heard, PUople!

Click here for the survey.

The deadline to fill out this survey is Sunday, March 2nd at 11:59 PM / 23:59 (GMT -5).

As always, thanks for reading and continuing to play and care about PU. Enjoy your week!
 
The survey results are in, thank you to everyone that took time to fill it out.

We got 52 responses this time—down from our last survey—but still ended up with a nice mix of ladder/room regulars and PU tour players. More will be done to try and increase feedback in future surveys, but the feedback we have now still feels very valuable.

Enjoyment and competitiveness

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Metagame enjoyment averaged a score of 7.58, up from 6.98. People are generally happy playing the tier, even with the constant huge tier shifts we get hit with, and that's great! Hopefully the upcoming shift sees this number continue to go up.

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In another increase from our last survey, perceived competitiveness averaged 7.115, up from 6.5. This is a slightly bigger increase than we saw in enjoyment, indicating that things are noticeably more balanced than during late SCL IV/early PU World Cup.

Pokemon and tier elements

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There wasn't much support for action on any of the main three Pokemon we wanted to focus on. Even the recently-suspected Galarian Articuno failed to crack 30% support for action among respondents. Opposition to action on Galarcuno *is* lower than it is for the other two Pokemon, but not so low that it's alarming, especially after it survived its suspect by a considerable margin. Rhydon and Salazzle are, at the very least, fine to most people, so congrats to them for not being super hated!

In the "other concerns" section, Florges (4), Zoroark (3), Arcanine (2), Tauros-F (2), and Rotom-H (3) were mentioned more than anything else. Arcanine and Florges have long been consistent forces in PU, though it still doesn't seem like an overwhelming amount of people want them gone or looked into. Zoroark and Tauros-F have high highs and low lows, so we'll see how they pan out now that people are bringing them up again. Finally, Rotom-H is a rising star in this meta, so it makes sense that it's made its way here. Teams lacking Rhydon tend to find it at least kind of annoying, and Rotom-H often doesn't have much trouble outlasting the chip-prone Rhydon.

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People seem to find the metagame enjoyable and (to a degree) balanced, and nothing got substantial support for tiering action. As such, the council currently has no plans to act on anything and would like to let the tier continue developing as is. Could something change that? Maybe, but adaptations to even our most contentious Pokemon are happening, so it looks unlikely. Either way, we'll be watching how things play out.

Thank you to everyone that still plays and cares about PU. We wouldn't be here without you, and we love hearing from you. Until next time :heart:
 
The April drops have already all proven formidable and meta-redefining, but are some of them too formidable and meta-redefining? That is the question the council sought to answer in its latest vote. Dragalge, Espeon, and Hisuian Typhlosion were the ones on the chopping block, and with ishtar and Bouff abstaining, 6/8 ban votes will be required to send any of them to PUBL. We're also waiting on kyuss's votes, but he can't change any of the outcomes anyway. With that said, here are the results:

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And so, as of this post, Dragalge is banned from SV PU! Tagging Marty and dhelmise to implement this change, thank you very much in advance. Below are the reasonings; DugZa will provide his some time tomorrow (or I'll ban him).

:dragalge:
7/8 - Banned
tom holland - This pokemon gives me SM Drampa energy. It has very few switchins, and oftentimes it is easier to just build in such a way that it is threatened by everything on ur team than to add an actual counter to it, because the most authentic counters you will see are tinkaton, spdef milotic, and frosmoth, and frosmoth is a one time counter. With all of that said, I have been able to build around it still and have been able to consistently handle it, but i do want to see a suspect test because it restricts the builder a lot. Certain pokemon are just straight up bad rn bc of its existence. I just don't think I can vote ban because there is counterplay that exists, I think it should be suspected.

etern - Tier is lacking in any viable Dragon resists making it near impossible to switch into. Florges gets obliterated by Sludge Bomb, Alolaslash and Orthworm can barely survive a Draco Meteor let alone Focus Blast. It also has the bulk to pivot into a lot of special mons and the Sub 3 Attacks sets takes away any needed for prediction.

zS - it’s too strong for how bulky it is

asa - Anyhow that Tinkatuff is relevant again, you know something is wrong. Without Copperajah and P2, nothing reliably comes in on Dragalge and it's tanky enough + equipped with a good typing to where it doesn't super struggle to get chances to grab KOes. Flip Turn is also just lame and gives Dragalge an out when it doesn't feel like guessing.

MZ - We don't really have promising switch-ins outside of Tinkatuff and it feels too easy to give opportunities given its good defensive typing and solid bulk even with little investment. I think we should 100% resuspect this and see how the tier can handle, but it's over-the-top enough to where I would rather ban first and try it back later.

DugZa - With Copperajah rising to NU, the tier has no (viable) Pokemon that can reliably switch into it. The STAB combination is extremely difficult to account for and Focus Blast to pick off the few Steel-types that we do have; not that it even needs it, Draco does a million to our fake steels anyway. Also has a lot of utility with moves like Dragon Tail, Flip Turn, Toxic Spikes and so on which can make it even harder to deal with. This Pokemon was the sole reason we saw Tinkatuff usage, a Pokemon which has no real niche outside of switching into Dragalge (maybe you can argue it will retain a niche with Espeon in the tier but that is yet to be seen) in the few days soon after it dropped. I do like the defensive presence it adds to the tier and being a good Water and Fire-resist but the cons outweight the pros so it has to go.

fish anemometer - Very fun mon and I honestly don't mind having it around. The tier isn't unplayable and its a fun delete button that's easily revengeable or taken advantage of. But its breaking efficiency for how easy it is to get in and how many hits it can tank even with full speed and special attack investment is too high and would certainly result in a ban down the line.

kyuss - even though i think defensive has been a positive presence in the tier IMO, offensive is too much with our steel types being too frail.

:espeon:
2/8 - Not banned
tom holland - I am voting do not ban on this simply because I am not confident the issue is espeon. I hate espeon. I want to get that out of the way. However, I can't tell if its just terrain that feels stronger now, if it is calm mind sweepers in general since copperajah is gone now, or some combination, or just espeon. Or maybe the meta just needs more time. So I am on team suspect test once more with this drop. I really only want to vote ban on something if I don't see counterplay and I know it is inherently the problem and not potentially something else.

etern - Need more time with it, could definitely see it being OP at some point (Specs / LO 3 attacks and terrain shenanigans) but it's quite frail and not quite as strong as you'd think with its lower bp moves.

zS - terrain cheese with this guy gets out of hand fast

asa - 50/50 here, gonna just err on the side of caution and vote ban. I wouldn't say Grassy Seed Espeon is unbeatable, or all that consistent either, but I don't like the idea of letting this run around when our remaining Steels lose to it, it's faster than most things, and it's usually just tanky enough to deal with Choice Scarf users/naturally faster guys. Espeon's other sets are perfectly fine, though, nothing crazy there.

MZ - Very very strong but with what feels like more consistent checks and reasonable counterplay. Frail to our scarfers and faster mons and lacks the tools to consistently blow through Steels/many darks/fat spdef mons immediately. Potential suspect candidate, not feeling an immediate ban

DugZa - Haven't seen anything overbearing from this; our Steel-types are pretty bad though so could easily see it end up being OP in the future as people start experimenting with more sets but as of now I don't really think it is banworthy yet. Poor bulk doesn't help its case much either.

fish anemometer - Easy to bully and not really remotely broken.

kyuss - It's annoying sometimes but i indeed like it as an enabler to certain archetypes, the certain degree of freedom it gives to not worry about removal (which most of the times sucks) and i think it is healthy atm (can be proven VERY wrong but need time to figure).

:typhlosion-hisui:
0/8 - Not banned
tom holland - This is simply not broken imo and just here because its a new drop. Another good fire type, but nothing particularly scarier than Arcanine or Salazzle for example.

etern - I think it's slow enough that offense / ho doesn't struggle with it while balance will also have 1-2 faster mons and something like Milotic or Goodra or Snorlax (not terrible anymore) to hardstop it. Infernal Parade also sucks and is way too inconsistent. Choiced sets are a liability with hazards in play, and eruption can easily be curbed through priority / living a hit with tera water or dragon.

zS - honestly not even that good

asa - Balanced, maybe possibly even a great addition to help with Arcanine and Florges? Hyph is a bit annoying to switch into with how often it tries to burn stuff or launch strong attacks, but it's not strong enough without Choice Specs to outright drop most targets and still kind of awkward defensively. Would like to see how Hyph develops in a Dragalge-less metagame.

MZ - Is there even a reason to ban it? Not as bad as I thought, maybe people will figure out how to break it, for now its not that fast or scary idk

DugZa - Speed is not particularly amazing and has a lot of competition from other Fire-types who are faster (Lazzle/Delphox/Redbull etc). Milotic also just dropped alongside it which doesn't help it, the signature move can be annoying sometimes but not OP yet and would like to see how it performs in a meta without Dragalge.

fish anemometer - Not immediately fast or strong enough to warrant anything. Competition from faster fires like delphox on the set up sets. Too frail to spam its hax moves without a care.

kyuss - super annoying to switch in but not broken at all.

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It should be noted that we're closely monitoring Grassy Terrain to see how it and its counterplay develop. We've seen the playstyle dominate multiple times, including during cycle 1 of last year's PU Ladder Tour, and Espeon gives it a strong option thanks to both denying Roar (plus Dragon Tail if it's Tera Fairy) and entry hazards. That said, it may end up fizzling out (like it's tended to do) after people adapt. Plus, hyper offense seeming stronger and more appealing during a ladder tour isn't particularly surprising. Past that, there's some interest in retesting Dragalge to give the playerbase more of a say in whether it returns to PU or remains trapped in Dante's Inferno. If we decide to move forward with a retest, you'll find out soon enough; we'll be sure to keep you posted.

With all that said, thank you for reading. Enjoy the new meta :D
 
PU's 9th Tiering Survey

With PU Ladder Tour reaching playoffs and PU Open on the horizon, the council figured now is a good time to check in with the playerbase through another survey. Grassy Terrain and Espeon were easy candidates for this, as they've seen quite a bit of usage throughout each PULT cycle, while Zoroark and Pawmot were popular suggestions among council members. Do any of these guys deserve to be banished from PU? Does something else? Does nothing? Let us know!

Click here to take the survey.

The deadline to fill this survey out is Sunday, May 4 by 11:59 PM (-4).
 
Survey results? Those, we have.

83 people voted in our latest tiering survey, over 1.5x the number of voters last time. In addition to many regulars, we got a few PULTers and other new faces, so thank you all for your feedback!

:rhydon: Enjoyment and competitiveness :milotic:

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Metagame enjoyment averaged a score of 7.07, which is lower than the previous 7.58 average. The new meta is teeming with threats (offensive and defensive) and noticeably different than the last one, so it makes sense that numbers here are a bit down as we continue to adapt to things. With that in mind, this score is still fairly high and that's good.

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Perceived competitiveness averaged a score of 7.12—roughly the same as it was before. The fact that this number has remained stable despite all the changes is honestly impressive, as well as relieving. People mostly think the tier is balanced, which is great!

Pokemon and tier elements

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Grassy Terrain was the main thing we wanted to gauge public opinion on. Losing Copperajah and P2, gaining Espeon, and Pokemon like Rhydon and Arcanine becoming slightly less dominant are all amazing for the playstyle, and its effectiveness was put on full display during the laddering phase of PULT. However, it seems the consensus is that Grassy Terrain does not urgently need action. Furthermore, among the votes in support of action on Grassy Terrain, no one element (Terrain Extender, Grassy Seed, Unburden, Oricorio-Pa'u, etc.) was overwhelmingly identified to be the main issue with the playstyle. Thus, even if we consider low-ish opposition to action, there's not exactly a clear direction to go in. This survey was also conducted before PULT's playoffs, and we've seen real adaptation to GTerrain since the end of the laddering phase, to the point where its consistency remains questionable. We will monitor GTerrain to see how it develops from here, but for now, we don't exactly feel like there's enough here to justify immediate action.

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All of these Pokemon are rising stars at the moment, yet none of them picked up significant support for action. With balance teams strong and less focus on Grassy Terrain, though, it's entirely possible that one or more of these Pokemon start receiving more and more pushback. As such, we will be keeping an eye on them, particularly Pawmot.

In the "other concerns" section, the main things mentioned were Milotic (9/31), Scrafty (5/31), Galarian Articuno (5/31), and Rotom-H (3/31). Milotic has undoubtedly reshaped the tier and is certainly annoying to deal with in-game, so it makes sense that it'd end up here. Scrafty is also annoying and thriving with so much Milotic, Glowbro, and Rhydon around for it to bully. Galarcuno and Rotom-H aren't strangers to being hated, and both appreciate the tier shifts and other metagame developments. Scrafty, Galarcuno, and Rotom-H contribute to the large number of threats people need to account for when building, so it wouldn't be too surprising if any of them ended up on the chopping block in the near future. As for Milotic, while the council doesn't exactly deem it deserving of action, we will keep it in mind as things progress. Its dominance is not lost on us.

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Like last time, people are generally happy with the tier and find it both enjoyable and competitive. Also like last time, nothing got substantial support for tiering action. For now, the council would like to let the tier keep growing and developing as is. There's definitely some stuff on my personal radar as well as council's, and we're hoping that PULT playoffs and PU Open will help make clear if anything needs to be done.

As I always say, thank you to everyone that still plays and cares about PU. You are our lifeblood and our strength, and you mean more to us than words could ever convey. Enjoy your day :heart:
 
PU's 10th Tiering Survey

With the recent tier shifts happening on top of PU Open concluding and PUPL reaching the second half of the tournament, the council figured now is a good time to check in with the playerbase through another survey. Slowbro-Galar, Salazzle, and Rotom-H were popular suggestions among council members. Given recent—albeit not popular—discussions about freeing Duraludon, we've decided to include it in the survey to gauge the community's opinion on these as well.

Click here to take the survey.

The deadline to fill this survey out is Sunday, July 13th by 11:59 PM (-4).
 
The 10th tiering survey results are in; thank you to everyone for filling it out.

Enjoyment: 7.1 (out of 10)
Competitiveness: 7.1 (out of 10)

These numbers are hovering around the same range as our previous survey, which indicates that the tier is in a good spot right now. We've seen higher numbers above 7.5+ in the past, but given the recent shifts that changed the tier noticeably, we are happy with these numbers.

As for the individual Pokemon;

:duraludon: (Unban): 48.3%

48.3% of the survey responses were in support of a suspect test to unban Duraludon, and only 33% were against a suspect test. Despite starting as an unpopular opinion, it is evident that the majority of the player base now believes that Duraludon could be a healthy addition to the tier. Given the overwhelming support, the council has agreed to proceed with a suspect test for Duraludon. Expect the suspect test to start early next week, with more details to follow.

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:slowbro-galar:: 21.7%
:salazzle:: 18.3%
:rotom-heat:: 20%

None of the other three Pokemon received anywhere near enough support to warrant any action. Out of the Pokemon listed in other concerns, Milotic, Decidueye-H, and Articuno-Galar were mentioned 2-3 times at most, but nothing major to warrant any action. We will keep a close eye on these Pokemon along with the other three listed on the survey in the future.
 
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