even more sheist ho cheese just dropped
lotta ho cheese here (excluding av zama because that's bo/offense/balance cheese)
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Project National Dex - Lure That Threat! - Cycle 24: Kyurem
- Thread starter Flames Of Elixir
- Start date
lotta ho cheese here (excluding av zama because that's bo/offense/balance cheese)
Prob just cuz lele is both frail and while not weak often misses ohkos even on super effective targets. Thus making it perfect fodder for being set up on
Wouldnt lele usually be switching into CC? So youd kill cuz of the spdef drop?I'm very sorry Bungeleid
Zamazenta @ Assault Vest
Ability: Dauntless Shield
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Close Combat
- Stone Edge
- Crunch / Ice Fang
- Heavy Slam
Lele expects to outspeed and OHKO Zamazenta, and often attempts to revenge kill it with its strong STABs
With Assault Vest, Zamazenta miraculously takes any hit from Lele and easily KOs it back with Heavy Slam. This set also serves to soft check Volcarona, Kyurem, and can surprise Hatterene, Mega Diancie, Clefable, and Iron Valiant.
252 SpA Tapu Lele Psyshock vs. +1 0 HP / 0 Def Zamazenta in Psychic Terrain: 204-240 (62.7 - 73.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Tapu Lele Psychic vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Zamazenta in Psychic Terrain: 228-270 (70.1 - 83%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Zamazenta Heavy Slam (120 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tapu Lele: 314-370 (111.7 - 131.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
It's moreso based on luring Lele to revenge kill it rather than switching in directly. Also, they must click Psyshock over Psychic (which sees slightly more usage than Psyshock) or Moonblast, and it is still a roll close to 50% to kill.
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Onto voting we move:
by MurderousMantyke
by OnlyAntagonist47 (pls try and stick to somewhat viable mons next time <3)
by CalamityISComing
Voting closes Thursday 7th August!
Onto voting we move:
by MurderousMantyke by OnlyAntagonist47 (pls try and stick to somewhat viable mons next time <3) by CalamityISComingVoting closes Thursday 7th August!
voting for grafaiai (if i cant vote for that then zama)
voting for grafaiai for tactical reasons
Bolt
Zama
With 2 votes MurderousMantyke wins this slate!
Now onto the next one:
Cycle 24: Kyurem
Kyurem @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Pressure
Tera Type: Dragon
EVs: 56 HP / 200 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Freeze-Dry
- Earth Power
- Substitute
- Roost
Having access to a great typing as well as respectable bulk, Kyurem makes itself a very threating pokemon in the metagame. It's Freeze-Dry + Earth Power combination is very unwallable in the current state of the metagame, with common defensive pokemon being Alomomola, Gliscor, Zapdos, Ferrothorn, etc. Due to this, Kyurem finds itself as a respectable choice in the builder capable of dismantling entire teams.
How will you lure this threat?
Voting Closes Friday 22th August!
Now onto the next one:
Cycle 24: Kyurem
Kyurem @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Pressure
Tera Type: Dragon
EVs: 56 HP / 200 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Freeze-Dry
- Earth Power
- Substitute
- Roost
Having access to a great typing as well as respectable bulk, Kyurem makes itself a very threating pokemon in the metagame. It's Freeze-Dry + Earth Power combination is very unwallable in the current state of the metagame, with common defensive pokemon being Alomomola, Gliscor, Zapdos, Ferrothorn, etc. Due to this, Kyurem finds itself as a respectable choice in the builder capable of dismantling entire teams.
How will you lure this threat?
Voting Closes Friday 22th August!
Alomomola @ Assault Vest
Ability: Regenerator
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Sassy Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Flip Turn
- Mirror coat
- Liquidation
- Play Rough
Kyurem comes in expecting to sub or kill mola with freeze dry does 35 and gets mirror coated to heaven
252 SpA Kyurem Freeze-Dry vs. +1 252 HP / 252+ SpD Alomomola: 176-210 (32.9 - 39.3%) -- 99.8% chance to 3HKO
Mola breaks sub
0 Atk Alomomola Play Rough vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Kyurem: 112-134 (28.6 - 34.2%) -- 1.9% chance to 3HKO
Ability: Regenerator
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Sassy Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Flip Turn
- Mirror coat
- Liquidation
- Play Rough
Kyurem comes in expecting to sub or kill mola with freeze dry does 35 and gets mirror coated to heaven
252 SpA Kyurem Freeze-Dry vs. +1 252 HP / 252+ SpD Alomomola: 176-210 (32.9 - 39.3%) -- 99.8% chance to 3HKO
Mola breaks sub
0 Atk Alomomola Play Rough vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Kyurem: 112-134 (28.6 - 34.2%) -- 1.9% chance to 3HKO
no mirror coat on your set
Thanks for letting me know I fixed it lol
Gyarados @ Rockium Z
Ability: Moxie
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Stone Edge
- Waterfall
- Earthquake
Unfortunate doesn't begin to describe the fate of this Kyurem.
Dragon Dance on the switchin, and then kill it with Stone Edge.
+1 252+ Atk Gyarados Stone Edge (100 BP) vs. 56 HP / 0 Def Kyurem: 382-450 (94.3 - 111.1%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO
Alternatively, you can actually land the move by using up the Z Crystal.
+1 252+ Atk Gyarados Continental Crush (180 BP) vs. 56 HP / 0 Def Kyurem: 684-806 (168.8 - 199%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Also useful for the birds.
Btw Meda I would've brought Staravia if it actually killed Kyurem.
woulda not allowed it. btw.
After what I'm assuming is another miscommunication, here comes voting!
Mirror Coat 
by kidd0s
by OnlyAntagonist47
Voting closes Wednesday 27th August!
After what I'm assuming is another miscommunication, here comes voting!
Mirror Coat by kidd0s by OnlyAntagonist47 Voting closes Wednesday 27th August!
With...1 vote kidd0s wins this slate!
Onto the next cycle:
Cycle 25: Great Tusk
Boasting high defence and attack stats as well as a colourful move pool, Great Tusk functions as one of the tiers best hazard removal options, being able to effectively remove hazards and threaten teams with its strong STAB. Headlong Rush and Close Combat both have few reliable switchins, and what switches in against them often gets sniped by Tusks incredible coverage, being vulnerable to Ice Spinner, Supercell Slam and Head Smash. How will you build around this prehistoric elephant?
Submissions close Monday 1st September!
Onto the next cycle:
Cycle 25: Great Tusk
Boasting high defence and attack stats as well as a colourful move pool, Great Tusk functions as one of the tiers best hazard removal options, being able to effectively remove hazards and threaten teams with its strong STAB. Headlong Rush and Close Combat both have few reliable switchins, and what switches in against them often gets sniped by Tusks incredible coverage, being vulnerable to Ice Spinner, Supercell Slam and Head Smash. How will you build around this prehistoric elephant?
Submissions close Monday 1st September!
Torkoal @ Shuca Berry
Ability: Drought
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Modest Nature
- Earth Power
- Solar Beam
- Weather Ball
- Rapid Spin
yes
offensive toarkoal
252 Atk Protosynthesis Great Tusk Headlong Rush (120 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Shuca Berry Torkoal: 192-226 (55.8 - 65.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252+ SpA Torkoal Weather Ball (100 BP Fire) vs. -1 0 HP / 4 SpD Great Tusk in Sun: 501-589 (135 - 158.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Torkoal Weather Ball (100 BP Fire) vs. -1 0 HP / 4 SpD Great Tusk in Sun: 501-589 (135 - 158.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Raging Bolt @ Shuca Berry
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Electric
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 20 Atk
- Draco Meteor
- Thunderbolt
- Volt Switch
- Thunderclap
252+ SpA Raging Bolt Draco Meteor vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Great Tusk: 403-475 (108.6 - 128%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Great Tusk Headlong Rush vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Shuca Berry Raging Bolt: 213-252 (54.4 - 64.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Raging Bolt Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Great Tusk: 403-475 (92.8 - 109.4%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO
Gholdengo @ Shuca Berry
Ability: Good as Gold
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 252 HP / 112 Def / 84 SpD / 60 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Thunder Wave
- Make It Rain
- Hex
- Recover
Tusk expects to ko ghold after rocks since non-balloon has been revealed, but then you pull out the shuca as it headlongs and ko it with mir.
252 Atk Great Tusk Headlong Rush vs. 252 HP / 112+ Def Shuca Berry Gholdengo: 168-198 (44.4 - 52.3%) -- 19.1% chance to 2HKO
0 SpA Gholdengo Make It Rain vs. -1 0 HP / 4 SpD Great Tusk: 409-483 (110.2 - 130.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Ability: Good as Gold
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 252 HP / 112 Def / 84 SpD / 60 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Thunder Wave
- Make It Rain
- Hex
- Recover
Tusk expects to ko ghold after rocks since non-balloon has been revealed, but then you pull out the shuca as it headlongs and ko it with mir.
252 Atk Great Tusk Headlong Rush vs. 252 HP / 112+ Def Shuca Berry Gholdengo: 168-198 (44.4 - 52.3%) -- 19.1% chance to 2HKO
0 SpA Gholdengo Make It Rain vs. -1 0 HP / 4 SpD Great Tusk: 409-483 (110.2 - 130.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Whole lotta shuca here!
Onto voting we rotate:
by OnlyAntagonist47
by GOATED im_m0rtal.
by Retereereeeree
Voting Closes Saturday 6th September!
Onto voting we rotate:
by OnlyAntagonist47 by GOATED im_m0rtal. by Retereereeeree Voting Closes Saturday 6th September!
ghold
Raging Bolt