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Pokémon Presents - Pokémon Day 2025 - Pokemon ZA Info & Pokemon Champions Announced
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My guess:
| Pumpkaboo/Gourgeist Size | Stat Screen Sizes |
| Small | XXXS, XXS, XS |
| Average | S, M |
| Large | L, XL |
| Super | XXL, XXXL |
Yeah, a bit odd for "S" to have the Average Size stat, but otherwise that would make Average Size oddly rare and Small Size very common. Only other solution I could think would be adding in a new "Mini Size" to make some thing like this:
| Form Size | Stat Screen Sizes | Pumpkaboo Stats | Gourgeist Stats |
| Mini | XXXS | 39/66/70/44/55/61//335 | 45/80/122/58/75/114//494 |
| Small | XXS, XS | 44/66/70/44/55/56//335 | 55/85/122/58/75/99//494 |
| Average | S*, M, L* | 49/66/70/44/55/51//335 | 65/90/122/58/75/84//494 |
| Large | XL, XXL | 54/66/70/44/55/46//335 | 75/95/122/58/75/69//494 |
| Super | XXXL | 56/66/70/44/55/41//335 | 85/100/122/58/75/54//494 |
* I think it would be possible to program it so it's a coin flip whether S and L could have the stats of either their respective form size or Average; which in that case I guess could be possible to have the same wiggle room for the other sizes as well. I just think Average should be, you know, the more likely as its right in the middle with Small & Large being uncommon and Mini & Super being somewhat rare (not super rare like Antique Sinistea/Artisan Polchageist, but if you want one will likely have to spend a few minutes).
Though, looking at the stats now, I have to say it could use a bit of a redo just in general. Like, why keep the defensive stats the same? You're pretty much setting it up so that only Super would be the logical choice as it has the most HP. Heck it's even worse for Gourgeist as, sure Small is faster, but GF decided in order to gain that Speed it lost Attack!
| Form Size | Pumpkaboo Stats | Gourgeist Stats |
| Mini | 43/66/46/44/59/77//335 | 69/100/74/58/83/110//494 |
| Small | 47/66/52/44/58/68//335 | 73/100/86/58/81/96//494 |
| Average | 51/66/58/44/57/59//335 | 77/100/98/58/79/82//494 |
| Large | 55/66/64/44/56/50//335 | 81/100/110/58/77/68//494 |
| Super | 59/66/70/44/55/41//335 | 85/100/122/58/75/54//494 |
As a side note, I would also switch it's Attack with Special Attack. I feel it would just be a better Special Attacker, and it would pair better with Phantump/Trevenant who is also a (slow) Physical attacker (and gets Horn Leech).
EDIT: Actually, thinking about it, I don't see what both their offense stats can't be 66 (Pumpkaboo) & 100 (Gourgeist). While it raises their BST to 357 & 536, you would only focus on one stat anyway (though mix wouldn't be out of the question, especially for Super Size which you'd probably want a negative Speed Nature for).
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Even if we couldn't go into it, having an Underground exist would have been a neat way to contextualize fast travel like the New York subway in the Insomniac Spider-Man games. Could always stick with the taxis, I guess. (Though admittedly, using fast travel and having a taxi spawn out of nowhere to pick you up would be pretty funny.)
It's been observed that there are various buildings on the map that are highlighted red. Given that Prism Tower is among them it's likely these represent buildings you can enter, or at least the most notable ones
Where things get weird/interesting is that if you look carefully you'll notice the gates into the city are among these. I thought they'd be totally blocked off by invisible walls but I suppose you can enter them, in which case the question of what purpose they serve in this game naturally arises
(Also I can't find the Looker Bureau highlighted in the spot where it should be so this map may be incomplete due to being early-game)
Or you know, Gourgeist's size and form can be completely separate and just have their own size, so you could have an XL Small Gourgeist or an XS Super Gourgeist. Gourgeist's size isn't just aesthetic.
My brain just did a barrel roll reading that sentence. I get what you meant, but just on the surface it's like reading a sentence of several oxymora; you need to take a second for your brain to compile it.
Anyway, I was going to write a longer post, but upon further research I came upon what GF is very likely going to do with the Pumpkaboo family: Exactly what Pokemon GO did. Pokemon GO decided to entirely avoid this nonsense and just locked their size to their form (note Pokemon Go uses a 5-Size system ranging (XXS/XS/M/XL/XXL)): Small is XS, Average is M, Large is XL, & Super is XXL. Adjusting to the 9-Size system in my previous post, they may simply adjust it and lock it so all Small are XXS, Average is M, Large is XL, and Super is XXXL.
Gates = Quick travel? I could see them reconstructing them into train stations, or at least having access to an underground metro. Even if it's only to other Gates it would be handy to have if you have to/want to go to someplace that's on the other end of the map you're on.
It would also be a good way to explain both why you can't leave Lumiose City but also in-world how people can leave (just the player doesn't have a reason to). The entrance/exit leading out to the Routes would be closed off as they're doing reconstruction, instead you need to take the underground metro which we'll be told has stops leading out to the Routes or even the nearby cities. Actually would be funny if they do include those stops as selectable, but when you click on them you get a "You can't leave Lumiose City now! You (gives hint/reminder of current mission objective)." (then post game it'll be "Where ya going? There's still plenty to see and do in Lumiose City!").
"Why would we need to take the metro around when we could take a taxi"? Either due to the reconstruction taxi & Gogoat services have been suspended OR the metro is free but taxi/Gogoat cost money.
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Probably missed a couple but here's the map with all the seemingly enterable buildings marked. Users here with actual experience with the urban sandbox genre, please tell me if this seems like a normal/adequate amount for this kind off game
* That the demo allows to be entered/is available at that point in the game (which is likely early on).
I mentioned fast travel earlier and I'm wondering if a location being marked on the map like this also means it's a fast travel point. Even if we can't go beyond the gates they would make for natural fast travel destinations due to being notable landmarks at the edge of the city and equidistant(?) from each other.
After seeing the videos of people playing the demo, I think the new battle system looks fine. It seems like it really does add some extra strategy to the battles, which is nice. I'm feeling optimistic towards the Xenoblade-like battle mechanics on the whole, my only worry is that it might get a bit chaotic since you control your character and not the Pokémon, which moves around following your character. But even so, I think it can work.
Based on the videos, I like the battle against the Mega Absol. I wasn't a fan of the Noble battles in Arceus, one of the main reasons being that there weren't really much you could do in those battles. Just run, dodge and throw (when given the opportunity) Here, you always have your Pokémon out and it can attack directly at all times, which is nice.
As for the size of Lumiose, I agree that it does seem a bit small when looking at the map. Makes me wonder if that's all we get, or if there are other areas to explore apart from the city, or if there's just more to it than meets the eye. That said, after recently playing through Xenoblade X, I'm not really in the mood for another game with a giantic world, so having a smaller world in Z-A is fine for me.
Also glad to hear that regular hold items are in the game, that's great.
Based on the videos, I like the battle against the Mega Absol. I wasn't a fan of the Noble battles in Arceus, one of the main reasons being that there weren't really much you could do in those battles. Just run, dodge and throw (when given the opportunity) Here, you always have your Pokémon out and it can attack directly at all times, which is nice.
As for the size of Lumiose, I agree that it does seem a bit small when looking at the map. Makes me wonder if that's all we get, or if there are other areas to explore apart from the city, or if there's just more to it than meets the eye. That said, after recently playing through Xenoblade X, I'm not really in the mood for another game with a giantic world, so having a smaller world in Z-A is fine for me.
Also glad to hear that regular hold items are in the game, that's great.
Friction sickos stay winning
To be honest my thoughts on poison is that a lot of people overemphasize how important it was for "friction" in pokémon. even at its best i think I only really had to care in mt moon, with the other regions never having a place that actually required dancing around with poison/backtracking that much so i never bothered buying antidotes.
its only really scary in the early game because of the low hp values of your pokémon, but it also needs to happen in an area very far away from a center to have its full impact, otherwise the backtracking isn't going to be more than one or two minutes of walking back and forth. at late game you can just ignore it lol
its only really scary in the early game because of the low hp values of your pokémon, but it also needs to happen in an area very far away from a center to have its full impact, otherwise the backtracking isn't going to be more than one or two minutes of walking back and forth. at late game you can just ignore it lol
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Surprised they chose to bring that back after axing it 15 years ago. I don't think it'll be a problem anyway since if the Fletchling is to go by, it doesn't look like it was taking damage ticks until it was called out.
Not to mention Antidotes and Pecha Berries.
Seems more like this is a quirk of sending the Pokemon out and not differentiating between battle and just, meandering around then.
Surprised to see Champions will be the main video game for next year because I genuinely was expecting another year of SV.
I suppose they really want Megas to be relevant in the competitive circuit before Gen 10.
Anyway going to be really funny if Champions is just not discernibly more stable while also still looking ugly.
https://legends.pokemon.com/en-us/news/battle-with-trainers
The Legends website updated and I find it more funny than I should that Z-A explicitly has a ranked mode too (though the bottom of the page clarifies Worlds 2026 will be on Champions and not Legends). So far it reminds me more of Unite more so than Sparking Zero like I was throwing around potentially, but that's fun and I guess also means you can play it with flat level balance I assume with everyone at level 50 in the footage seen so far. From this menu I'm also interested in what "Titles" you can earn because that looks like a ribbon.
https://legends.pokemon.com/en-us/news/z-a-battle-club
This really does sound like battle royales but not as sudden to end. Based on the screenshots and gameplay it seems like it'll be a bring 3 format as well. Random item drops sound interesting, I guess, though it sounds like yet another incentive to bring a mega more than not. Maybe it depends on what other held items are going to be in and how impactful it really is to get a mega online or if you can do it again if fainted.
At least this sounds like a nice summary and use for the new potential AOE dynamics seen so far.
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This screen seems to show some titles, which are all pretty much "Novice/Beginner Trainer".
We also have confirmation that the battle mechanics will change between format rules for Champions. This implies the mechanics will be on a rotation
tera orb icon below mega, and i can see the stripe of the dynamax to the side of z-move. of course that was expected, but good confirmation. The way that the band works could give an implication that you can only use one gimmick in the team? with the whole switching what the arrow points, but that's a stretch