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SPOILERS! Legends ZA Data Dumps - Adding Info to OP
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That representation for megastarmie is omegacursed though LOL
And I really hope that Mega Pyroar does still have differences between male and female in the mega. I think it really is part of the charm.
I am looking forward to what the design of some of those will be.
Aaaand on heavy copium that finally Meganium stops being a meme when it comes to competitive (or even in game ngl)
And I really hope that Mega Pyroar does still have differences between male and female in the mega. I think it really is part of the charm.
I am looking forward to what the design of some of those will be.
Aaaand on heavy copium that finally Meganium stops being a meme when it comes to competitive (or even in game ngl)
It’s the one I’m most interested to see in action because it really could go either way.
Someone said its arms/spikes make up the bottom jaw and some of the fanart of that looks pretty cool at least.
I also think looking at just the shots of still models taken via a phone camera alone doesn't tell the whole picture.
We went through this song and dance with Rillaboom, Cinderace, and Inteleon before, same with Hisuian Decidueye, Hisuian Typhlosion, and Hisuian Samurott, and even Meowscarada, Skeledirge, and Quaquaval (even if the Paldea ones are among the better received now).
Once we see Mega Meganium, Mega Emboar, and Mega Feraligatr in full action (ie animated) I imagine people will warm up to them.
We went through this song and dance with Rillaboom, Cinderace, and Inteleon before, same with Hisuian Decidueye, Hisuian Typhlosion, and Hisuian Samurott, and even Meowscarada, Skeledirge, and Quaquaval (even if the Paldea ones are among the better received now).
Once we see Mega Meganium, Mega Emboar, and Mega Feraligatr in full action (ie animated) I imagine people will warm up to them.
Not that I expected otherwise, but the form reversion list confirms we're just getting plain old Johtonian and Unovan starters rather than regional forms. This was the case in the tera leak build. I don't know at what point 'hyperspace Lumiose' was conceived for the DLC, but it sounds like it could have been enough of an excuse to give the starters regional forms -- just reveal in the DLC they came from the mega dimension.
While on the one hand giving the regular starters megas might give them some actual competitive viability once Champions rolls around (though... doubtful unless they retcon some hidden abilities, I think), from a gameplay experience standpoint I prefer regional forms if Legends games are just going to reuse starters. We've had plenty of opportunities to use their base forms, most recently in the Indigo Disk. I prefer to try and use mons/forms of I've never used before, which in this case rules out using Meganium, even though I otherwise like it best of the three. Thankfully I haven't used Feraligatr or Emboar in 'real' playthrough teams so I'm fine picking from one of them, but if I had used all three already I'd be mulling over whether reusing one or boxing my starter would be more distasteful to me :P
While on the one hand giving the regular starters megas might give them some actual competitive viability once Champions rolls around (though... doubtful unless they retcon some hidden abilities, I think), from a gameplay experience standpoint I prefer regional forms if Legends games are just going to reuse starters. We've had plenty of opportunities to use their base forms, most recently in the Indigo Disk. I prefer to try and use mons/forms of I've never used before, which in this case rules out using Meganium, even though I otherwise like it best of the three. Thankfully I haven't used Feraligatr or Emboar in 'real' playthrough teams so I'm fine picking from one of them, but if I had used all three already I'd be mulling over whether reusing one or boxing my starter would be more distasteful to me :P
Where is this picture from? I find it strange that only it leaked (i.e., why do we only have descriptions for the other ones?)
fwiw there was recently a promotional video where regular Meganium was shown, so there not being any regional forms for the starters is not a spoiler at this point.
so many of the screenshots that are going around are just fanmade of people trying to fool others, I don't believe anything that we've seen of like Starmie, Feraligatr, Meganium, Dragalge etc have been real. Even the dex entry Starmie screenshot is fake cos the height / weight is the same as regular Starmie.
Some look better than others, obvi, Meganium screenshot is probably the best one, but I imagine the overall official design will be a bit different.
As far as I know all of these came from the teraleak and are the images the descriptions were based on.
Some of them (Starmie, Dragalge) were edited into Pokédex screen shots afterwards to make it look like someone actually had access to the game. In the original dragalge image it looks kind of off, because they used AI to remove the background for some reason.
I think they’re all probably real tbh. Most of the people who had access to the teraleak stuff seem to think so anyway.
If the leaks are true, I'm disappointed we aren't getting any new additional types for Mix and Mega. All the new added types have already been added to past Megas.
Translated list of items from Reddit. Most interesting things here are the Flare Scientist-themed key cards, seemingly implying a return to Lysandre Labs or some other Team Flare-based dungeon
I wonder if the 5 color items related to the 5 plazas might also be related to Zygarde. Zygarde supposedly has 5 cores in totals and each one has a different "color" scheme in addition to its standout green. They're tied to the names of the 5 plazas yes, particularly since the 5 plazas are the color names in French, but maybe that also ties into the idea of the 5 Zygarde cores having color schemes corresponding to the colors the 5 plazas represent.
Also fascinating that Repels seem to be back after they were absent from SV.
Also fascinating that Repels seem to be back after they were absent from SV.
I hadn’t looked at these in so long but I totally convinced myself Krookodile was getting one but apparently.. it’s not?
Well, there was a crocodile between them...I hadn’t looked at these in so long but I totally convinced myself Krookodile was getting one but apparently.. it’s not?
I hadn’t looked at these in so long but I totally convinced myself Krookodile was getting one but apparently.. it’s not?
I could have sworn Krookodile was a part of this list too, maybe a separate leaker claimed that at some point?
The Linking Cord not being in the game is incredibly disappointing; I was really hoping that Legends would stay as a predominantly single-player experience, but it seems like that's not going to be the case with this and the emphasis on online battles. It'll probably be offset by trade evolutions being in the wild ala PLA, at least, but I'm still not a fan of them going back on that.
Now that it's 'officially' confirmed that the starters are getting Megas, I wonder if we'll see Mega Typhlosion/Samurott/Serperior in the DLC? I assume not - it's not like we got Hisuian variants of the remaining Johto, Unovan, or Alolan starters - but that game didn't have DLC to add more variants in to begin with.
What if the Link Cable doesn't exist anymore because they realized they could just remove trade evos altogether
I think for Gamefreak’s logic is that by adding any form, be it regional form or mega form, that is enough for the generation. For example, Raichu got a new regional form back in gen 7, and now can get a Mega form 2 gens later. Or slowbro got a mega in gen 6, and then gen 8 we got a regional form. There hasn’t been a new generation since we got Typhlosion’s regional form, the new form treatment goes to the other starters.
I've always regarded PLA as Gen 8, with SV's release marking the start of Gen 9 - do we have any indication whether GF and TPC see it one way or the other?
Still, either way a one-generation gap between new forms would be very short, so I can definitely see this applying for Typhlosion and Samurott either way - an isolated Mega Serperior would be very weird, so that's probably out too.
Im excited to see Mega Emboar because apparently it is the consensus best looking one according to the leakers
my favorite starter becoming an ancient chinese soldier hell yeah
I mean Meowth got a regional form in SM and then another one in SwSh. PLA is a Gen 8 game and PLZA is a Gen 9 game and it would be a very similar amount of time between releases so it's entirely possible.
Internally, supposedly, the generation marker incremented for BDSP, LA & SV.
At this point it just seems like they increment their tally every game.
As far as both fan purposes go we'll probably still just differentiate with the "big" games like we have been.
