Resource SV Ubers UU Viability Rankings (Post #210 for November Update)

[DDart]

Nominating Scizor from UR to C/C+

Very much agree. Scizor threatens most of the tier with 2hkos with lorb bullet punch and the high usage of tera Fairy on sweepers, along with its amazing ability to take hits, forces a switch often enough that SD can be clicked at least once per game. It feels especially strong in combination with the fast sweepers that can weaken its checks, Mewtwo and Moon being two good examples. It's also great into stall and Balance, with its Steel-type, setup options and access to Knock Off meaning it can always force progress. Some calcs to show what I mean:

252+ Atk Life Orb Technician Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tera Fairy Spectrier: 424-502 (124.3 - 147.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Life Orb Technician Tera Steel Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tera Fairy Palkia-Origin: 380-447 (118.3 - 139.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Technician Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Arceus (Ice Or Rock): 478-564 (107.6 - 127%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Technician Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Iron Bundle: 251-296 (99.2 - 116.9%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Technician Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mewtwo: 305-360 (86.4 - 101.9%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Technician Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Roaring Moon: 372-438 (105.9 - 124.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Technician Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 100 HP / 0 Def Multiscale Dragonite: 146-172 (41.9 - 49.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Common Defensive Pokemon:

+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Scizor Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Multiscale Lugia: 240-283 (57.6 - 68%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Technician Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Magearna: 185-218 (50.8 - 59.8%) -- 84.8% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Technician Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Arceus-Dark: 239-282 (53.9 - 63.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Scizor Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Alomomola: 309-365 (57.8 - 68.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Tera Steel Scizor Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Giratina: 382-452 (75.7 - 89.6%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock

 

[OceanicGamer]

Nominating Scizor from UR to C/C+

During my suspect run Scizor was absolutely a core member of my team and contributed to many wins.

Scizor @ Life Orb
Ability: Technician
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 224 HP / 252 Atk / 32 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Bullet Punch
- Knock Off
- Close Combat

This was the set I was using, and Scizor is absolutely amazing to revenge kill threats like Spectrier, Roaring Moon and Landorus. I was using this alongside ESpeed Dragonite, and together they weaken the opponent’s team for each other or another teammate like my own Roaring Moon. Scizor does have bad matchups into Arceus Electric, Gouging Fire and Tera Fire Mewtwo. Despite this, Scizor owns HO squads lacking these Pokémon, and even with these Pokémon they have to play carefully and keep these Pokémon relatively healthy, especially if you have another priority user like Dragonite or Arceus

+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Technician Tera Steel Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tera Fire Mewtwo: 204-240 (57.7 - 67.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Technician Tera Steel Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Arceus-Electric: 160-188 (41.9 - 49.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO


Replays of Scizor being the goat
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9ubersuu-2387910682-oavnhdsu1ldx2tku174o3m3nmj96kn3pw
(Yeah… I forgot to save all the others sob skull)

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen9ubersuu-851283

and this is why... scizor is the goat

 

[Celeste]

Did someone say new VR update? Well here you go! Featuring a lot of changes + adjusting the D tier to fit the approach taken by ubers, meaning many pokemon once ranked D will now be considered UR, or C- (Eg, Bronzong, Smeargle, Ogerpon). D tier will now be reserved for Pokemon that are UUbers by tiering, not taking into account banned moves/abilities from OU. Pokemon that have a defined enough niche to be ranked will be placed C-, and all others will be considered UR and not appear in future iterations unless voted to be ranked by council.

Take a look at the voting sheet here!

Drops:
Arceus-Electric shifts from A+ to A
Gouging Fire shifts from A to A-
Landorus shifts from A+ to A-
Samurott-Hisui shifts from A to A-
Arceus-Dark shifts from A to B+
Palkia-Origin shifts from A to B+
Araquanid shifts from B+ to B
Chi-Yu shifts from B+ to B
Gholdengo shifts from B+ to B
Iron Bundle shifts from B+ to B
Kyurem-White shifts from B+ to B
Grimmsnarl shifts from B to B-
Palafin shifts from B+ to B-
Zamazenta-Crowned shifts from B to B-
Annihilape shifts from B- to C+
Arceus-Fighting shifts from B to C+
Iron Treads shifts from B to C+
Mandibuzz shifts from B to C+
Arceus-Grass shifts from C+ to C
Blissey shifts from C+ to C
Excadrill shifts from C+ to C
Gothitelle shifts from B- to C
Latios shifts from C+ to C
Regieleki shifts from C+ to C
Ursaluna shifts from C+ to C
Ninetales shifts from C+ to C-
Raging Bolt shifts from C to C-
Sneasler shifts from C to C-
Tyranitar shifts from C+ to C-
Dialga shifts from C- to D
Bronzong shifts from D to UR
Galvantula shifts from C to UR
Gastrodon shifts from C- to UR
Moltres shifts from C+ to UR
Primarina shifts from C+ to UR
Slowking-Galar shifts from D to UR

Rises:
Arceus-Ice shifts from A to A+
Spectrier shifts from A to A+
Garganacl shifts from B+ to A-
Dragonite shifts from B- to B+
Mimikyu shifts from C+ to B+
Arceus-Rock shifts from B- to B
Ogerpon-Hearthflame shifts from B- to B
Urshifu-Rapid-Strike shifts from B- to B
Lokix shifts from C to C+
Quagsire shifts from C to C+
Scizor shifts from UR to C+
Ursaluna-BloodMoon shifts from C- to C+
Dragapult shifts from C- to C
Moltres-Galar shifts from D to C
Walking Wake shifts from C- to C
Archaludon shifts from D to C-
Cloyster shifts from UR to C-
Ogerpon shifts from D to C-
Smeargle shifts from D to C-

 

[OceanicGamer]

Lokix shifts from C to C+

Scizor shifts from UR to C+

it's almost like my birthday came early

 

[DDart]

We've done it.

 

[Celeste]

With the latest shifts settling down I am here to report on what I believe to be the number 1 winner (and by extention a potential rise in a team archetype) that results from mainly Spectrier leaving the tier. While Spectrier was itself incredibly strong on webs, its presence limited the potential of other pokemon that could themselves be successful on H/O structures. Obvious winners are Pokemon like Roaring Moon and Dragonite that now have more chances to set up (and as an aside no, spectrier leaving will likely not change the power of priority in this tier imo lol) but the biggest winner by far is probably Annihilape, and by extention webs.

Annihilape has always been theorized to be a powerful part of webs but never was able to capitalize on its toolkit, currently finding itself in C+ on our VRs. Occasionally popping up with scarf sets, its best results typically came from its Bulk up sets, which out of necessity were forced to run a lot of special defense and a less optimal tera type like Poison in an attempt to punish Spectrier from getting greedy with drain kisses while also being able to "take" a shadow ball. However with spectrier gone, Annihilape can now take advantage of other key parts of its kit on webs, mainly its ability to take advantage of Giratina in a way few other webs sweepers have been able to. I don't think its set changes too much, but I think the changes that do happen are really big in changing a lot of notable interactions.

Annihilape @ Leftovers
Ability: Defiant
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 248 HP / 52 Atk / 208 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Taunt
- Rage Fist
- Drain Punch
- Bulk Up​

Being able to run more speed comfortably (these evs are to slightly outpace jolly Gholdengo which naturally outspeeds deoxys under webs) allows Annihilape to leverage its natural speed far more effectively then it was able to before, being able to outpace far more then it was able to before with webs up, including Gholdengo itself - who is incredibly valuable on webs. Being able to run Tera Fairy lets Annihilape entirely shut down every common variant of Giratina, leaving its opponent stuck trying to out offense it in a similar way to CM taunt arcs who have to manage the CM war, or many strong physical attackers that can break through them before the damage ramps properly. Annihilape also has an aspect that sets it apart as one of the main Bulk Up sweepers we have, meaning it can give H/O staples like Roaring Moon, Gouging Fire, and a well managed ape can threaten Ekiller arcs as well due to the power and effectiveness of Taunt into these naturally slower sets. It still has vulnerabilities to powerful special breakers like Landorus, and it does rely on tera so it will naturally become more priority weak as the game goes on. I believe it finds itself filling the skill check role that Spectrier once did in a potentially more devastating way when managed well, but managing it well itself requires much more skill on the user's behalf.

Ultimately i'd probably put this B+ given my current view on the meta.

 

[Celeste]

Seasonal is wrapping up and UMPL is on its way, which means a new VR Update! Check out the votes here.

Drops:
Arceus-Poison shifts from S to A+
Garganacl shifts from A- to B+
Iron Bundle shifts from B to B-
Mimikyu shifts from B+ to B-
Ogerpon-Hearthflame shifts from B to B-
Clodsire shifts from B- to C+
Grimmsnarl shifts from B- to C+
Solgaleo shifts from B- to C+
Corviknight shifts from C+ to C
Volcarona shifts from C+ to C
Excadrill shifts from C to C-
Lokix shifts from C+ to C-
Moltres-Galar shifts from C to C-
Okidogi shifts from C to C-
Orthworm shifts from C to C-
Dugtrio shifts from C- to UR
Ogerpon shifts from C- to UR
Skarmory shifts from C to UR
Tyranitar shifts from C- to UR

Rises:
Mewtwo shifts from S- to S
Arceus-Electric shifts from A to A+
Dragonite shifts from B+ to A
Landorus shifts from A- to A
Samurott-Hisui shifts from A- to A
Araquanid shifts from B to B+
Gholdengo shifts from B to B+
Palafin shifts from B- to B+
Annihilape shifts from C+ to B
Arceus-Fighting shifts from C+ to B
Ursaluna-BloodMoon shifts from C+ to B-
Blissey shifts from C to C+
Gothitelle shifts from C to C+
Reshiram shifts from C to C+
Smeargle shifts from C- to C+
Archaludon shifts from C- to C
Cloyster shifts from C- to C
Raging Bolt shifts from C- to C
Pecharunt shifts from UR to C-

 

[OceanicGamer]

Lokix shifts from C+ to C-

FUCK

 

[ilikeeatingcrayons]

Palafin shifts from B- to B+

Holy shit my goat

 

[Celeste]

New meta, new VRs! With the addition of Taka and Slikkles to the council + UMPL coming to a close we felt it would be a good time to get started updating resources with UUBPL on the horizon. With 6 pokemon falling off the VRs and a shocking NINE Pokemon rising from D or Unranked, this will be one of the more interesting updates we've made in the past year! As per usual, you may view the voting here.

Drops:
Arceus-Ice shifts from A+ to A
Roaring Moon shifts from A+ to A
Landorus shifts from A to A-
Araquanid shifts from B+ to B
Garganacl shifts from B+ to B
Gholdengo shifts from B+ to B
Samurott-Hisui shifts from A to B
Cyclizar shifts from B to C+
Mimikyu shifts from B- to C+
Ogerpon-Hearthflame shifts from B- to C+
Blissey shifts from C+ to C
Espathra shifts from B- to C
Quagsire shifts from C+ to C
Reshiram shifts from C+ to C
Cloyster shifts from C to C-
Gothitelle shifts from C+ to C-
Archaludon shifts from C to D
Iron Valiant shifts from C- to UR
Lokix shifts from C- to UR
Moltres-Galar shifts from C- to UR
Orthworm shifts from C- to UR
Raging Bolt shifts from C to UR
Ursaluna shifts from C to UR

Rises:
Deoxys shifts from A- to A+
Great Tusk shifts from C to A+
Palafin shifts from B+ to A
Arceus-Dark shifts from B+ to A-
Iron Bundle shifts from B- to A-
Lugia shifts from B+ to A-
Palkia-Origin shifts from B+ to A-
Zamazenta shifts from UR to A-
Alomomola shifts from C+ to B+
Arceus-Rock shifts from B to B+
Iron Treads shifts from C+ to B+
Urshifu-Rapid-Strike shifts from B to B+
Garchomp shifts from UR to B
Volcarona shifts from C to B
Arceus-Psychic shifts from C+ to B-
Clodsire shifts from C+ to B-
Dialga shifts from D to B-
Dialga-Origin shifts from C to B-
Dragapult shifts from C to B-
Mandibuzz shifts from C+ to B-
Pecharunt shifts from C- to B-
Rillaboom shifts from C to B-
Solgaleo shifts from C+ to B-
Toxapex shifts from C+ to B-
Baxcalibur shifts from C- to C+
Clefable shifts from UR to C+
Sinistcha shifts from UR to C+
Sneasler shifts from C- to C+
Enamorus shifts from UR to C
Excadrill shifts from C- to C
Ninetales shifts from C- to C
Ogerpon-Wellspring shifts from UR to C
Palkia shifts from D to C
Tyranitar shifts from UR to C

 

[ILoveGarchom]

New meta, new VRs! With the addition of Taka and Slikkles to the council + UMPL coming to a close we felt it would be a good time to get started updating resources with UUBPL on the horizon. With 6 pokemon falling off the VRs and a shocking NINE Pokemon rising from D or Unranked, this will be one of the more interesting updates we've made in the past year! As per usual, you may view the voting here.

Drops:
Arceus-Ice shifts from A+ to A
Roaring Moon shifts from A+ to A
Landorus shifts from A to A-
Araquanid shifts from B+ to B
Garganacl shifts from B+ to B
Gholdengo shifts from B+ to B
Samurott-Hisui shifts from A to B
Cyclizar shifts from B to C+
Mimikyu shifts from B- to C+
Ogerpon-Hearthflame shifts from B- to C+
Blissey shifts from C+ to C
Espathra shifts from B- to C
Quagsire shifts from C+ to C
Reshiram shifts from C+ to C
Cloyster shifts from C to C-
Gothitelle shifts from C+ to C-
Archaludon shifts from C to D
Iron Valiant shifts from C- to UR
Lokix shifts from C- to UR
Moltres-Galar shifts from C- to UR
Orthworm shifts from C- to UR
Raging Bolt shifts from C to UR
Ursaluna shifts from C to UR

Rises:
Deoxys shifts from A- to A+
Great Tusk shifts from C to A+
Palafin shifts from B+ to A
Arceus-Dark shifts from B+ to A-
Iron Bundle shifts from B- to A-
Lugia shifts from B+ to A-
Palkia-Origin shifts from B+ to A-
Zamazenta shifts from UR to A-
Alomomola shifts from C+ to B+
Arceus-Rock shifts from B to B+
Iron Treads shifts from C+ to B+
Urshifu-Rapid-Strike shifts from B to B+
Garchomp shifts from UR to B
Volcarona shifts from C to B
Arceus-Psychic shifts from C+ to B-
Clodsire shifts from C+ to B-
Dialga shifts from D to B-
Dialga-Origin shifts from C to B-
Dragapult shifts from C to B-
Mandibuzz shifts from C+ to B-
Pecharunt shifts from C- to B-
Rillaboom shifts from C to B-
Solgaleo shifts from C+ to B-
Toxapex shifts from C+ to B-
Baxcalibur shifts from C- to C+
Clefable shifts from UR to C+
Sinistcha shifts from UR to C+
Sneasler shifts from C- to C+
Enamorus shifts from UR to C
Excadrill shifts from C- to C
Ninetales shifts from C- to C
Ogerpon-Wellspring shifts from UR to C
Palkia shifts from D to C
Tyranitar shifts from UR to C

Why is garchomp suddenly ranked at B

 

[Celeste]

Why is garchomp suddenly ranked at B

It has risen very quickly as a good hazard user that can punish spin, as well as having a slightly better offensive niche due to Giratina being gone. It was used a bit before but never was widespread enough for anyone to seriously consider ranking it, but its proven to be a lot more effective now.

 

[ilikeeatingcrayons]

Why is garchomp suddenly ranked at B

celeste already mentioned its actual utility, but there were a lot of sudden additions to the vr, like zama hero and sinsitcha. a lot of it is because tina leaving changed a lot about building in this meta, which led to some drastic changes. mons like chomp are now able to fill roles that a tina meta didnt allow.

 

[Iride]

Ordered by viability, everything separate from its current rank is effectively a nom by itself as I feel a lot has settled in over the past weeks. Going to go through the ones I feel most strongly about in detail but will also do my best to explain the subrank discrepancy notably in my top 10/5.

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Between a mix of general usage and metagame influence I feel decisions are the most strongly impacted by these five mons in order; Mewtwo, Deo, Arceus-Poison, Tusk, and Magearna, with the psychics being ahead though not by a super significant margin.

Deo is similarly defining offensively to the extent that the right 4 coverage moves often enable it to grab game-changing KOes against much of the metagame, and it often lacks team-specific prerequisites to making this progress due to the sheer threat of its coverage moves, ability to support its team with spikes koff and espeed, and number of opportunities it gets to fire off its attacks on account of outspeeding the entire unboosted metagame and even notable boosted mons like Gouging Fire and Dragonite.

Tusk and Magearna serve as the default backbones for a lot of team nowadays, I think initially people were rather skeptical of Tusk's defensive reach and general playstyle at first, but smaller optimisations in between such as the increase in its item variety, speed investment to help it out vs things such as Dialga and Samurott, and people generally being more used to treating it as a tool to set momentum rather than a passive blob help its use case a lot, and scarf / bu sets remain as offensively potent as ever due to the power of its STABs.

Notably, Arceus-Poison thrives a bit more than usual after the Electric ban because of how much room it has to experiment offensively due to the excellence of its STABs on both atking and spatking sides. We saw lots of experimentation with its Tera as a result of this in particular, but poison as a type also has excellent defensive use against the myriad of fighting and fairy moves with the latter also being huge due to the resurgence of offensive Magearna, and does so while lacking the weaknesses to crucial types like rock and water.


Also knocking on the Top 5's door it's rather scary. The defensive utility offered by a fast behemoth immune to ground moves and resisting psychic without being weak to the common fighting move seen on 2a Mewtwo is insane, reliably phases a signficant portion of other setup threats from the offensive Magearna rising in usage, stored power sweepers, and any dragon dancer not named Roaring Moon (outside Tera), and also commands a surprising degree of respect in the builder with its CM sets due to Tera setup permutations allowing it to better deal with the shift to paraspam teams, speaking of which, has a prevalence which lowers its rise in viabilty a bit but otherwise the mon is incredible.


A few months ago I would have ranked this closer to its Origin forme, but in a more volatile metagame, I would argue the item versatility base Dialga offers often makes it much better in this department hence the higher viability gap than usual. One of the three main defensive steels besides Magearna and Treads holding the tier together against most offense types, distinguishes itself from both well between its blend of offensive firepower and reliability at spreading chip. Not too much to say besides this honestly. Its consistency at performing specific role compression is evident as I've been characteristically spamming this mon throughout both my tours and don't regret it at all LOL.


Fills the Arceus checking role quite well, also helps a lot with playing around fighters and other psychics defensively while being hard to take down because setup sweepers not named Arceus-Dark can't reliably 1v1 it due to Psyshock. Mostly held back by builder struggles due to its innate passivity but otherwise appreciates the slower and more reactive pace of the meta letting it do what it needs to. Good mon.


One of the harder mons to rank in my opinion, but has some pretty insane upsides on paper. Appreciates Great Tusk in particular being the most common ground as that mon's low spdef lets it experiment a bit more with its Tera type vs most. I liked fairy a lot to improve its matchup into dragons specifically but ghost + Thunder Wave also feels like it has quite a bit of merit vs priority spam teams.


This mon is highkey him. One of the truest Pdef sponges in the tier able to match Gira in its ability to devour most physical mons without relying on tera due to its insane natural bulk and threat of maligants, parting shot for momentum, and reliable recovery, but can also occasionally slip into Teras to patch its weaker mu into the grounds and also land crucial poisons on Arceus formes. Found myself experimenting with it a lot due to the avenues it opens up by itself in patching more offensive squads together against opposing offense.


I just had fun watching offensive shitmons like Dragapult and Primarina go off. Pult in particular has some big degen potential often not limited to its set, for instance, in UMPL W5 I used a Band variant that takes advantage of a general lack of ghost sponges. Ghost Tera Blast is one shotting max hp Mewtwo, 2 shotting Lugia through multiscale, max hp Tusk, Magearna, and Arceus formes, and it also brings a lot of offensive utility to the table between checking espeeders in a vaccum, its webs immunity, and natural speed above CM Arceus and Zamazenta. Primarina on the other hand becomes a really nice hittaker and offensive momentum bot with an Assault Vest set that naturally puts a ton of pressure on defensive cores between its unblockable psynoise and strong stabs while using its defensive traits also freely come in on some of the meta's most dangerous spa attackers in Arceus Ice/Dark and Palkia-Origin.


Never had time to get onto the Zapdos bandwagon myself, but from the replays I saw of it I feel it has a lot of solid use case that is also fairly indicative of the exploration and success behind this new phase of paraspam bulky offense. Outside of being a huge stat stick able to annoy most of the tier's defensive pivots while being immune to the dreaded status itself, Zapdos also notably punishes Great Tusk, Zamazenta, and provides reliable pivoting that isn't blocked by grounds due to U-turn, which I feel are great traits to have for the non-HO teamstyle most prominent right now.


As for notes on Arceus, I feel the meta nowadays is a bit less centralized around dedicated formes with Poison arguably being the highest due to its sheer offensive potential, but also with formes such as Dark and Psychic being more defensively adept than before, and the other more offensively focused formes such as Ice often being built around in a commitial way. While this does lower the individual viability of each forme a bit in comparison to other mons, I find this to be a welcome change and healthy under the pretence of allowing different formes to more easily fit into team specific roles and encourages more effort from builders looking to make the most of its general versatility.