Serious AI Companies are gobbling up all the fuck'n ram (Please Read)

[KDE Plasma Houston]

I'm so sick of these damn AI companies. I've been dealing with their bullshit since 2023, and it's clear that they're out of control. 2023 was a significant year, thanks to someone named Sam Altman, the creator of OpenAI, which developed ChatGPT. However, AI has been causing numerous problems.

A major issue is that AI companies, like OpenAI, created by Sam Altman, are scraping websites, ignoring robot.txt settings, and collecting data without permission. This raises concerns about copyright infringement and the exploitation of website content to train their large language models (LLMs), just ask Wikipedia what these AI Psychos where doing to them!

Here are the key problems with AI, there are more than you can count on one hand:

1. Copyright infringement and lack of transparency: They're stealing content left and right, and nobody seems to care.
2. The spread of low-quality, AI-generated content ("AI slop"): It's polluting the internet with garbage.
3. High resource intensity and negative environmental impact: These data centers are sucking up resources and destroying the planet.
4. Enabling people to rely too heavily on AI, potentially diminishing critical thinking skills (see "AI psychosis"): People are getting dumber by the day, and it's all because of these AI tools.
5. The concentration of wealth and influence among AI companies, with negative effects on the global economy: It's a money-making machine, but at what cost?
6. Job displacement and exploitation of artists' work: AI is taking jobs and stealing creative work, and it's disgusting.
7. The perceived uselessness of AI, with many questioning its benefits: What's the point of AI, anyway? It's just a bunch of hype.
8. The placement of AI data centers in residential areas, with potential health and environmental consequences: They're poisoning our communities and ruining our environment.
9. The contribution to the global chip shortage and rising RAM prices: It's like they're intentionally causing chaos and profiting from it.

As soon as Donald Trump came into power, it was a shitstorm. His plans to cut regulations for AI companies, which poses a significant problem. The "beautiful" bill which deregulates AI for the next ten years, yup that is right you heard very well, its a damn decade with this bullshit! Moreover, no one will be allowed to stop this!

When is this AI bubble going to burst already?! I'm sick of it. I just want to build a simple gaming PC without breaking the bank, but AI companies are driving up RAM prices and making it impossible.

For those out of the loop, just watch these YouTube videos if you want to know more about the crap that's going on.

Here are videos that show what AI is doing to our neighborhoods with its stupid data centers.

Now, here is the video about the RAM from GamerNexus. This is the video that really drove me to create this entire thread!

Oh yes, before I end off the night:
https://www.stopai.info/
https://togetheragainstai.com/

 

[TheMantyke]

Yeah Generative AI is spectacularly evil. Don't give it the time of day.

The main use cases are being worse old google and generating porn deepfakes. It is living off of hype that dies down the more people are exposed to it, and the more completely desperate attempts to push it fall flat. AI assistance with paint is like asking for help wiping your ass.

It is a technology where its best use should have been making those fucked up wrong cats for vinny vinesauce. Instead, the most heinously evil men have decided it's the hot new thing. They've taken their complete disregard for regulation to a new fever pitch even as communities are pillaged of their resources and underinformed children die taking its advice. There is no sense of moderation. There is no providing humanity with anything they think is genuinely useful. It's like insisting a pog will give you good medical advice. It is only growth at any cost, a complete cancer driven by money. These tech CEOs are monsters.

As an engineer, to the teenaged smogon user trying to get into some sort of technology adjacent field: do not let this feel like an inevitability you must accept. This is either a beanie baby that will come and go and take a chunk of my 401K with it or a lingering blight on the tech experience about as well liked as pop-up ads. It's a confidence game. It is NFTs with better publicity and something resembling an actual product needing nowhere near this grandeur. There is room for a fondness for software in the world, but it's being devoured by the worst among us like Microsoft and Adobe. Not everything has to be as shitty as Outlook, we can have beautiful programs free from commercial corruption like VLC still in this world. Make a cool website. Give people a neat program.

To the creative person wondering if they should steep their toes in here: Don't. The moment you tell me your voice is interchangeable with what the machine hallucinates is the moment I am gone. Your execution is half your art, and painting that over with a bland nothingsauce makes your work bad, uninteresting, even for the contentbrained it makes me not want to click it! It's the go-to fast art for scams. This isn't even mentioning what monstrous stuff governments have done with it on social media. Keep the stain of facism out of your work. Hire an artist if you need something done, or pick up a pencil.

I'd like to recommend Ed Zitron's Better Offline podcast for monitoring the ballooning AI bubble and the evil that tech executives are forcing on our plate. Haven't listened to it in a few months, but I enjoyed what I heard. He was recently responsible for some big journalism about lies on earnings statements that had a genuine effect on making the bubble quiver. I love seeing tech-loving people rage at how these evil, greedy people are ruining the computer for their own selfish gains.

Honestly, in a world polluted by this, Smogon is refreshing. It's a community thing at its core with virtually no profit incentive for all but two users. Most people are doing things here because they love talking about it, learning, and helping others. The worse you get is like badgewhoring, I guess, but I'll take social climbing for embarrassing reasons over dead children any day.

 

[chimp]

I teach middle school and every day is a fight to try and convince them that ChatGPT, Gemini, Copilot, Google AI and all the other shitbag AI sites are NOT reliable sources.

I can't believe Google made Google unreliable. Don't they know people used the term "google-ing" was synonymous with "finding the answer"??? I can't understand why they'd tank their own website's credibility.

And you know its a shame because to an extent, some functions of AI can be relatively useful SOLELY for private uses. But I don't know why so many people feel like they're entitled to shit up media with their AI crap just because they typed in a prompt and had an image or video shat out. The people who seriously want to use AI to make paintings, movies, books... I just can not fathom it. (It looks like shit 100% of the time, too)

I have seen so many ads (on TikTok especially) of AI sites where you can upload an image of a person and get a video of them naked or making out with some other person. The privacy concerns from that alone should've been enough for a moral panic against this whole cursed thing.

 

[bdt2002]

As a wise man once said, the Roaring Twenties were immediately followed by the Great Depression. I don’t expect the so-called “AI bubble” to “burst” eventually, but what I do expect to happen over time is that the amount of investments in AI development and the loss of human workers will eventually reach a point to where the people developing the AI won’t be able to get by either. Only when this happens, the sharp decreases in net profit and stock investments will be eaten by Big Money Corporate since there’s no one else left to eat those costs. The price of RAM to AI developers will plateau at some point in the future and while it may take places like the United States 10-15 years to actually get to that point, eventually purchasing power will go back to the consumer with time.

Feel free to respond to this however you please. This is just what I personally believe will happen.

 

[Magcargo]

For individual use, I think AI / Generative AI is fine. As someone who doesn't go out much & is unfamiliar with a lot of processes, it has been a nice resource to find tips on the fly on places to explore, things to do, workout routines to follow, etc. The speed and snappiness of getting details like .... idk, the health details of certain drinks like Coke is a massive boon over google. Speaking purely from a user perspective - this shit is just a tool - which may be less accurate than existing sources, but it also provides a strong starting template without the shitty baggage that comes with knowing nothing.

This part is very personal, but for me, I'm not a fan of asking questions because it feels like you always get the same condescending bullshit from other people.

"Oh, I am not familiar with how X code process works." -> "Read the documentation."
"I've unsure of what to do when I travel." -> "You should have prepped this ages ago"
"Yknow, I'm not familiar with where to study certain concepts." -> "Yeah, sorry I'm not sure."
"Yo I need some medical advice." -> "Please schedule an appointment."

I think I am a special case - most of my questions are indeed stupid and I ask them more for the sake of "feeling comfortable" rather than getting an insightful answer. I also am just not good with other people & I will fully admit, when asked a question, I may give the same reaction I mocked above. But all of that is why AI is a nice place to ask questions . Sometimes I don't want to deal with the shitty human component of needing to schedule something, ask the question in the microscopic perfect way, and still deal with the shitty realization that my question won't get answered. Maybe I want to go to the gym, but I don't want to do all this baggage on research on the flawless method of working out that already makes me hesitant to go in the first place. Maybe I need medical advice on the fly for a food disorder, so I can't exactly wait for the perfect moment to ask my doctor (I got UC recently and they don't help much there at all). AI might not be to the perfect place to ask questions, but it does give me an actual resource that I can ask at any time, doesn't judge you or get mad for asking, and - for the most part - has worked "fairly" well in helping me deal with day to day problems. I think AI has allowed me to experiment a lot more in the last year with how I tackle situations, and has allowed me to broaden my scope far more than if it wasn't available. This is largely due to removing the shitty human component that makes asking questions a universal chore. And hey, it also directs you to the direct sources too pretty conveniently.

For AI "reducing critical thinking skills" there definitely is a risk, but I feel that this issue is overblown. "Vibe-coding" for example, I think is pretty bad, but that's because this approach to coding is fundamentally wrong imo. Generating code -> running into issue -> generating more code just ain't the way to solve issues imo. That said, that initial code generation still is useful, and you can expirement & tweek upon it. Using AI to see how a specific method works, what potetntial inputs / outputs are, etc. is way faster and more convenient than scouring documentation that usually explains shit badly lol. As for other task - I just feel it makes it way faster to get into doing shit. I don't like gymming, but AI giving me a pre-made workout plan that explains how shit works for me makes me way more inclined to excercise compared to other sources. Usually a snag up for me is writing messages or comments that are clear. AI can help with the diction there - and get rid of a lot of the repetetitveness in my writing to boot. Using AI to generate shit is one thing, but as a tool to help with writing and get rid of extraneous errors - its pretty handy.

Bear is mind this is all on AI for personal use. I think companies building a shitton of data centers they won't use & ruin the environment is pretty shitty. Companies forcing it on employees and using it as a reason to RIF is shitty, stealing copyrighted material is shitty (specifically in this case because its the big guys stealing from the little guys), and consolidating more and more power to evil companies like Meta, Amazon, Google, etc. is also not a good thing. That said, corporations being shitty IMO is not an implicit issue with AI, its just them doing the same greedy shit they always have. I definetly thing AI is way more useful than a lot of the grifter bullshit that companies have tried latching onto in the past few years like NFTs and Crypto.

 

[Frontier Owner Scott]

AI = bad really isn't that hot a take, and while I think there's good discussion to be had here and i hate to quash it...

My main issue is that the OP is so over-zealously biased which goes against a core tenet forum rule to present controversial topics like this as neutrally/unbiasedly as possible, as well as ramming in political activism at the end (hot button issue). If the OP would like to clean up the opening post I'm fully willing to reopen this thread to further discussion, this forum actually needs more topics like this but we need to approach them correctly.