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NOC Tracker Jailer Follower - Game Thread - Day 2!

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Dead by Daylight said:
OMGUS carries the connotation of voting for no reason beyond the fact that you are pushing me, which isn’t what I’m doing
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Uh fair that’s one interpretation

OMGUS despite the name isn’t inherently bad, it’s bad when it becomes a tunnel (which I guess you’re not bc you’re not voting me rn lol). We’re best positioned to identify where someone’s case against us sucks bc we remember what we did more than anyone else remembers what we did iygm
 
Main players right now seem to be me, Celever, DBD, and Peum.

Let me talk through this:

phoopes: thinks genisu and Peum are scum
Celever: thinks Peum and DBD are scum
DBD: thinks genisu and Celever are scum
Peum: lots of possibilities (voting Celever), but genisu likely scum as well

Is that all correct?

3 of the 4 of us think there's a good possibility or are sure that genisu is scum. DBD and me are voting for him, Peum is not. I've said why I think Peum isn't voting for him. Doesn't look like Celever is going to change his mind and will also be unavailable.

Maybe a visual representation will be better. Let me work on that
 
leftmost column is who is the accuser, top row is the accused

phoopesDBDCelevergenisuPeum
phoopesxinnocentinnocentguiltyguilty
DBDinnocentxguiltyguiltyinnocent
Celeverinnocentguiltyxinnocentguilty
genisumaybe innocentguiltyinnocentxinnocent
Peummaybe guiltymaybe guiltymaybe guiltymaybe guiltyx

Am I getting anything wrong here?
 
Celever said:
everything about the tie vote is true but yeah, as no one mentioned it in-thread the likeliest thing is that no one really checked (especially as it seems like no one checked when deadline was either lol) so I don't think it factored into decision making. I'd say different if DBD said "I'm voting des because a tie vote would be a no vote and that's bad" but he didn't, and when the speculation here is that scum DBD wouldn't do it bc he wants to get towncred for not tie voting... well scum DBD would get that towncred by saying it out loud and he didn't do that
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I need to head back to work, but this argument confuses me as a rebuttal to phoopes posts in #226. (This is also the last post I got up to, sorry I'm a slow reader ;;v;;)

Where is towncred playing into this? Isn't virtue of the fact that he didn't tie vote just kind of get towncred, why would he need to say it in order to get it? If he did do that would that make him more or less likely town in your eyes?

I understand the pre-flipping, but does bussing des even make sense on like the first day. Especially since she was just kind of a policy vote.

We have 13 players the first day. 10 town, 3 scum.
This is the most basic worst case scenario break down not factoring in that their are PR roles that can block a kill.
D1 BL: 9/3D1 GL: 10/2
N1 NK: 8/3N1 NK: 9/2
D2 BL: 7/3D2 BL: 8/2
N2 NK: 6/3N2 NK: 7/2
D3 BL: 5/3D3 BL: 6/2
N3 NK: 4/3N3 NK: 5/2
D4 BL: 3/3 GAMED4 BL: 4/2
N4 NK: 3/2
D5 Lynch: LYLO? 2/2 if Bad
That would mean the maf intentionally choose to face like 2 extra phases for some brownie points which I just don't see happening.

Feel like the maf are probs folks who either weren't around last phase change to help or were already committed to a vote that might have saved des in the first place (I feel good abt Neon, DBD, and Jalmont the most of those who were around). I still kind of wanna lynch Phoopes, cause all I've seen was old mechanics talk we could have done yesterday when it was brought up and -checks notes- the JK and Follower shouldn't claim, unless there's a 50/50, which seems like obvious, the DBD defense posts does feel a lil better tho. But my break is over officially (actually I went a couple minutes over, don't tell my boss ;;v;;) so I will share more thoughts later.

Please ping me if you have questions so they're easier to find, I should be a little more free tomorrow (I'm off, but planning a party :blobuwu:)

Celever said:
also AirC don't think I haven't noticed you not voting last cycle which is what you did last game as scum. as town you tend to use your vote more often, so I'm looking forward to seeing you do that soon :boi:
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ShyPebble if you want to lynch me I ask that you wait until tomorrow to make your case because if you vote me we now have a 5-way vote split and that is just hella bad. Assuming you think I'm guilty though, who do you think is the other guilty party that I would be in cahoots with?
 
phoopes said:
Main players right now seem to be me, Celever, DBD, and Peum.

Let me talk through this:

phoopes: thinks genisu and Peum are scum
Celever: thinks Peum and DBD are scum
DBD: thinks genisu and Celever are scum
Peum: lots of possibilities (voting Celever), but genisu likely scum as well

Is that all correct?

3 of the 4 of us think there's a good possibility or are sure that genisu is scum. DBD and me are voting for him, Peum is not. I've said why I think Peum isn't voting for him. Doesn't look like Celever is going to change his mind and will also be unavailable.

Maybe a visual representation will be better. Let me work on that
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Does Peum really think genisu is scum?
 
phoopes said:
If I'm right, I think the noncommittal behavior from Peum is concerning

Maybe the play really is rally the troops and lynch Peum
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I've made all my points and no one has said anything to rebute them. I am not going to go ask anyone to vote Celever, if they've read my points, and based on their own conclusions decide to vote Celever, good. They agree with me, but im not going to tell them that they're playing the game wrong for not doing so.

Dead by Daylight said:
Does Peum really think genisu is scum?
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Based on my post, Genisu isnt clean in any of the three scenarios, he's a wildcard whose posting is leaning to just scumposting, but the problem with me voting him is that if he turns innocent, we do not gain anything from it. And we're still in the same loop tomorrow.
 
Peum said:
I've made all my points and no one has said anything to rebute them. I am not going to go ask anyone to vote Celever, if they've read my points, and based on their own conclusions decide to vote Celever, good. They agree with me, but im not going to tell them that they're playing the game wrong for not doing so.


Based on my post, Genisu isnt clean in any of the three scenarios, he's a wildcard whose posting is leaning to just scumposting, but the problem with me voting him is that if he turns innocent, we do not gain anything from it. And we're still in the same loop tomorrow.
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Well, my question is do you think genisu is scum? If you think he is, then he should get your vote unless you’re moreso sure on someone else
 
joey said:
my least favorite post so far, you're trying to tell me that 2 scum (Miyami/DBD) hardbussed their teammate day 1?

I am only up to this point and missing any future developments but Celever/DBD is 85% TvT and I would say the 15% is mostly just tinfoiling
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backreading, but no I think theres a high chance ONE of them is scum, i really doubt both of them are, and l was suspicious at Miyami for hard jumping des while ignoring the other elephants in the room(afk and neon), but it turns out shes never played with them so she wouldnt know
 
Dead by Daylight said:
townreading genisu when he has literally lied about his reasoning behind his read on me is wild. what happened to lynching all liars again
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wait i just read that and i realized why, i was going to make a post about how I hated your recent posts but I was on mobile and forgot to send it. I dont use mobile often and I can prove i was on it. Right above I made a post where i autocorrected Celever as Clever, which wouldnt happen on pc
 
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