relooking at this post yeah it looks like im calling Celever the mafia roleblocker that's not what I wanted to say, im pointing out the 2 reasons why im not voting Celever, The stuff about The mafia roleblocker that could come out and him not visiting that night.
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NOC Tracker Jailer Follower - Game Thread - Day 2!
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could be an honest mistake but I'm less charitable when there was already a previous scumslip pointed out by Celever, I was already scumreading this guy anyway, and now I am leading vote getter
Voted for DBD against the Des Wagon
Posted a lot more in Day 2 than in Day 1, apparently after Des flipped mafia.
His posts look more like "I want to get towncred" rather than trying to solve the game.
Leading Wagons that dont point anywhere
and in my opinion, his points are rather subjective, saying about some people things that apply to other people while not confronting them on it.
I think I am following this now. Mafia will target genisu with their kill tonight because he is follower and that is a role they want to get out.
Setup 3: genisu will die tonight
Setup 4: jailkeeper will also target genisu, meaning no night kill
in setup 4 they wont target genisu because obviously jailkeep is going to protect him lol, but genisu will be notified that he was roleblocked.
1. you've already corrected this
2. I happened to have more free time on Day 2 than Day 1, and there's been more to talk about. Sue me.
3. This makes zero sense. I've had my solve of you and genisu for awhile now, I haven't been posting to gain towncred. I had a solve and I was backing it up all of this cycle
4. The first wagon I tried to lead was voting pulsar for being inactive. So what, that's a valid strategy. The second wagon I tried to lead was genisu, who you yourself said was one of the scummiest players in the game until he claimed his role.
5. Give me an example
you could be right, but there's also WIFOM at play here
if mafia "obviously" won't go for genisu, then jailkeeper will "obviously" try to protect someone else. This could free up genisu to use his ability. But mafia would want to prevent that, so they would want target genisu for a kill instead. But knowing this, the jailkeeper should jail genisu to prevent the nightkill
you see what I mean? it's all WIFOM in scenario 4
1. oops, still doesnt change the point
2. I still gotta talk about this point.
3. While Celever and DBD were fighting eachother, you just made readlists while saying how much me and genisu look like mafia
4. The pulsar wagon is fine I guess, The genisu wagon, as I said multiple times today, doesnt lead anywhere if he ends up being innocent and we dont gain anything on it.
5. You pushed me before for not voting Genisu while I saw them as scum, while Celever said that he thought that Genisu was town, but a flip on me, who he was voting and is convinced that is scum would make Genisu look more as mafia.
There's nothing they can do, if jailkeeper jailkeeps genisu tonight and they dont kill him Genisu will only have to claim that he was roleblocked (the secondary effect of the jailkeep), and if they decide to not kill Genisu today while there not being a jailkeep, Genisu only has to claim that he wasnt roleblocked for us to know the setup. (Honestly if jailkeeper doesnt target Genisu tonight he's just throwing tbh)
1. :handshake:
2. let's hear it
3. nah, I called Celever vs DBD as TvT before I started posting readlists. Also the first few readlists I even gave had you as neutral. Hell the first one I posted even had genisu as townlean! (#288)
4. "doesn't lead anywhere if he ends up being innocent" isn't an excuse to not vote off the scummiest player in the game IMO (scummiest until his roleclaim of course) so I disagree
5. You saw genisu as the scummiest player and didn't vote for him. Celever saw you as the scummiest player and did vote for you. These are not the same scenario.
of course I'm getting defensive. I'm the leading votegetter and I'm innocent! Only difference between you and me is that I don't have a fancy role to claim to make people back off
by talk about this point I meant present the point I made
and then after Genisu turns innocent who do you vote? We're back in square one, while having the same chances as yesterday and not having done any progress at all.
This is a really fancy way to simplify the point I made.
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after genisu claims a role (innocent), I unvote and vote for the person who I said all day was second-scummiest. This isn't a bad sign, especially when I brought to light new reasons to vote for you (i.e. your potential scumslips). My original point about you "bussing without bussing" genisu still stands, btw. Because you called genisu the scummiest person but didn't vote him. Meaning that if he was a scumbuddy and flipped guilty, you could save face and be like "oh well he was still my most scummy read." But in what actually happened, where he was innocent, you can say "oh I never voted for him" and still look good. The purposeful noncommitment (along with the scumslips) are what has me voting you
It's not though. You claimed that those two scenarios were the same, when they are in fact not, as I pointed out. Idk who you're trying to convince but it's not going to be me
wait so what lead your view on me to shift from town to scum instantly, seemed opportunistic
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