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NOC Tracker Jailer Follower - Game Thread - Its Over!

tbf Peum posted what Sam asked for, I don't think you can read into it as scummy particularly

like maybe you can bc I sure didn't post what Sam asked for but diff personality types perhaps lmao

it's kinda irrelevant bc you and Sam do just need to cross in this situation, if Peum's scum I'm choking but I just don't think he is lol
 
whatever honestly I don't really care if I'm voted here and we lose. obviously that would be sad and a bummer way to go out but I'm relatively happy with how I played. I don't think I was that great but you know I had some solid reads and did make a correct vote so I can't complain too much. I think the last mafia did a good job if it was peum and sam did a good job subbing in so yeah they have left me quite confused.
 
I guess Sam's entrance he never actually came to any conclusion about who he was leaning towards voting and thought was mafia, disguised by writing a lot. So I suppose that could be him feeling out the waters to see what everyone is thinking before committing to pushing anyone. If he was even remotely following, I would think it to be fairly straightforward that you have to kill one of peum/celever and then push onto one or the other. so I just don't get the point of a no kill.
 
Reading still, just posting to confirm I saw the votes and am not hammering, which I think mech clears me? I agree that I am unfortunately apparently a bad NOC player whose soul read on Celever was wrong, he seems 99% cleared and I’m very surprised that wasn’t brought up until today lmao
 
UncleSam said:
Reading still, just posting to confirm I saw the votes and am not hammering, which I think mech clears me? I agree that I am unfortunately apparently a bad NOC player whose soul read on Celever was wrong, he seems 99% cleared and I’m very surprised that wasn’t brought up until today lmao
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Pebble only died yesterday x3

I could’ve been mafia roleblocker who wouldn’t have kill carried. But now that Pebble’s flipped as roleblocker, the last mafia has to be a goon. And the goon would’ve kill carried when I was jailkept so I’m only confirmed today

But yeah I guess none of us noticed yesterday irl lmfao
 
Celever said:
Pebble only died yesterday x3

I could’ve been mafia roleblocker who wouldn’t have kill carried. But now that Pebble’s flipped as roleblocker, the last mafia has to be a goon. And the goon would’ve kill carried when I was jailkept so I’m only confirmed today

But yeah I guess none of us noticed yesterday irl lmfao
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Ah that’s a good point, that makes a lot more sense then

I’m still waking up give me a bit
 
Celever said:
it's rough bc the main evidence of a Pebble x Neon scumteam is that the threadstate was one where scum were sitting back and letting town murder each other

but that could well happen with Pebble x jalmont too because jal has been so on the fence all game to the point of voting for people he openly townreads and that'd give the same gamestate

Peum do you remember if any dead players had strong Pebble scumreads before they died? Jal has a few times said "I'm just gonna trust the flipped town's reads" as cover for pushing town. If there's a dead player who had a strong Pebble scumread that Jal ignored in favour of pushing town with this excuse instead, I'd consider it somewhat of a silver bullet

but I don't remember if it acc happened
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o/ im here, I dont remember that, but I do remember an occasion where Jalmont defended Pebble when you voted for her

jalmont said:
I am not really interested in voting out anyone who joey or genisu didn't scum read at this point of the game

I also feel like SP could have easily participated in the d1 vote to either gain cred somewhere or save des. their day 1 was good, although day 2 not as good.

day 3 i will admit i thought i remembered SP being more active but tbh not a lot today as well. I guess I am willing to extend them a little more goodwill on the back of day 1 for now.
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jalmont said:
I like how neon just basically gets a pass for doing nothing, that's really awesome as well. next time I play I'm just going to post in wingdings and avoid doing anything.
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this just looks like a scumslip, but funny how Des was voted d1 in the base of policy and then Neon became the afk player lol
 
Peum said:
this just looks like a scumslip, but funny how Des was voted d1 in the base of policy and then Neon became the afk player lol
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I agree it looks like a scumslip but I didn’t call it out bc I have a lot of sympathy for jal if he is scum getting the Neon slot subbed going into MYLO

It made his life a lot harder, though I don’t think it has actually changed the end result. I was pretty sure I’d vote jal going into today, and while Sam helped consolidate that, really you helped consolidate it by continuing to push jal lol
 
jalmont said:
the problem with the frozen scum theory is that if I am mafia, I literally know what the path to victory is, which is setting up a misvote on neon and then one of you and peum.
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jalmont said:
Honestly I just don't know what to think about the that celever and peum town read each other, if that's the case then the game is me celever and peum as the town 3. but that seems way too simple especially given that celever and peum both have been voting out down all game, with celever being pretty wrong about dbd and peum defending des and not voting day 1.

there's still really no reason for me to believe neon is town - I still believe neon's scum meta shows that they can make relevant votes and push people when necessary which they haven't super been doing HOWEVER popping up right before deadline to save themselves - were they prompted by a teammate, worried by Celever's ping? I just don't know. the thing is if that vote was tvt, then mafia has pretty much 0 urgency to change or swap votes. but now I realize, peum was off wagon so had to get on one of the wagons so I guess that doesn't say much.
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jalmont said:
I think I am voting between you and neon, with an outside chance at voting Peum.
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jalmont said:
im not sure why even risk it like neon is not showing up anyways to make a correct vote most likely
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jalmont said:
does anyone want to vote neon?
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But yeah anyway I hope Sam hammers soon bc the only worlds left are that jal’s scum, or Peum has unnecessarily played with his food for the thrill of the kill

I know which is likelier in my mind lol
 
I fully accept being the protagonist’s ally in this story rather than protagonist himself (that’s Peum) but I am v excited that Smogtown is gonna have 2 wins close to each other and I was one of the last alive town in both of them x3

Apparently I’m good at endgames? Maybe? This game’s evidence I’m not good at any other stage of the game lol
 
Knowing that Cel is clear changes the math on this, I was pretty sure that no vote and sending the game into a drawn state was the best play before that. However, it becoming a 50/50 pretty much always means that the preferred vote option is going to have a >50% chance of success, and thus is superior to a draw.

I was at like 50% Cel scum / 35% Jal scum / 15% Peum scum when I went to bed last night, and (effectively) removing the 50% Cel scum makes the choice pretty clear. Plus if it's Peum I dodge the blame and can retreat into the shadows while everyone roasts Cel, so really I win no matter what here.

##VOTE: jalmont
 
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