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The ruling on this RBY game was never going to be clean or easy, but the decision was disappointing. SPL is intended to prioritize competition, but this does the exact opposite. I respect that hosting is thankless, but I ask you guys reconsider.
This is obviously far from ideal, but given the server crash and not wanting to penalize a team for Monday - Wednesday availability they could not have foreseen, it’s what we got.
Electing to draw the line at Wednesday without any precedent is completely arbitrary. You cannot tell me why Wednesday was picked after Monday instead of Tuesday, Thursday, Friday, etc. -- it just would be met with a "shrug, this is what felt right" as opposed to anything concrete. The initial ruling was for them to play Monday with no possible subs -- this is because one team can abuse this if they think a double sub favors them. Why did a complete reversal on this happen all of a sudden?

Any outcome here is inconvenient, but nobody is harmed if players are given another couple days to complete their set in the event of an uncommon server outage. Our priority is having the intended and best competitors play, nothing else. Please reconsider giving Sceptross and Laroxyl more time to play.
 
I didn’t want to make this post, but I feel I have to because I don’t believe the decision that was taken is fair to me.

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TLDR:
On Monday, I told Sceptross that I wouldn’t be able to play on Sunday because it’s my birthday, but that I was available from Monday to Saturday. He replied two days later saying he could play on Saturday, although he wasn’t sure about the exact time. I kept asking him to confirm a specific time within the availability range I had given him, but by Friday I still didn’t have a confirmed schedule.

On Saturday morning, he told me he needed to postpone the game, and we agreed on a time later that day. I had availability until 8:30 PM GMT+1 because I had dinner plans afterward. I didn’t expect the series to last that long, so after Game 2 I asked if we could take a 15-minute break since I had ordered pizza and it was arriving around 9:15 PM GMT+1. He kindly agreed, and we started Game 3 at 9:22 PM GMT+1.

Unfortunately, the server crashed during Game 3 and we had to reschedule.
I proposed this.

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When trying to find a new time, Sceptross only offered 9:00–9:30 PM GMT+1 on Monday. Given the entire situation — that I spent the whole week trying to sort out scheduling, that I had wider availability overall, and that I was flexible even after the crash, I don’t understand how it’s fair to sub me out instead of subbing Sceptross.

I even asked to play right then and there (around 1:00 AM GMT+1, which was 12:00 AM GMT for him), but that request was denied. So I’d also like to understand how it’s fair to sub both of us after everything that happened.

I was ahead in Game 3, and that game can’t be recreated either, which makes the situation even more frustrating.

This post is not against Sceptross, I know he had scheduling issues this week, and I don’t think he acted in bad faith. We’re friends, and I also want to say that the hosts have been doing a great job overall. I’m only making this post to express that, considering everything involved, I don’t think this decision is fair to me. I don’t believe I should have been subbed out and effectively penalized after all the effort I made to make this series happen.
 
Subforum LC tours have $10,000 cash prizes while some of these official tournaments can barely afford $200. Reflect on that for a moment
Tbh it's very clearly not the same
This LC thing is definitely a one time thing and something that's been done by one singular person who's obviously extremely passionate about LC, and good for him. The dudes been playing LC for a long time and if he gets to support that then good. But obviously, that 1 person is not donating 10,000 yearly. Smogon Tour, OST, Classic etc happen yearly. It's not feasible to get that yearly. Idk how much the smogon lifers are making and tbh I don't need to know, but 10k is not something that should be expected to be just given. The only reason vgc even has those pools is cuz that's tpc themselves pushing the competitive scene. Hell, there's no use for showdown after champions for the vgcers, and the only reason Nintendo can't nuke showdown is cuz it's still in beta
 
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The result not i want, 4-5 is a shameful record, tho i suffered some bad luck, i also robbed noname and london beats, that's fair, just now i can't win.
thanks ima Empo Ale Duncan pick me tho not plan me play my main tier, in w3 manager trust me and fit me in ORAS to show my talent and trust me forever.
thanks all mates ACR1 Dababy2 Fakes Prinz Tizio Potente Ao pj lax devin sunsets fakenagol SaDiSTiCNarwhal sugarhigh JabbaTheGriffin sire clod PZZ Kingler ChrisPBacon carry or played, also sry for tilted everyweek when i lose.
thanks GeniusX Ruffles Destro16 BluBirD Alpha1013 help test and prep too, without yours help and some suggess i can't get too much success, especially alpha, i was not hesitated defame your gameskill but during SPL and Teamballo you did very well and reliable between support and play, now i will trust you and hope you finally get in SPL.
thanks my friends both chinese and other country zuzhouwawa Howkings Indulge in dreams Raceding Chaos23333 gostop Plague Spitfire Mok3s musashi109 Kafkafka SeaLife cloud and book Vxltarktimi shuixin Suzukaaa BlazingDark Nakano Nino encorage me when i get mental breakdown, ik i have bad psychological health status but you still play and support with me.
At last thanks CTC recommend and lax (again) blunder pick me in SCL 2024 midseason to support RU, if no yours help i even can't play official teamtour.
I know i not a talent player so every serious tour i put my full focus serious prep, my skill isn't talent, if one player played 6 years they will overcome me, i will stop played like this because when touch it more my relationship and mental health will be worse.
Tomorrow will coming...
 
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The result not i want, 4-5 is a shameful record, tho i suffered some bad luck, i also robbed noname and london beats, that's fair, just now i can't win.
thanks ima Empo Ale Duncan pick me tho not plan me play my main tier, in w3 manager trust me and fit me in ORAS to show my talent and trust me forever.
thanks all mates ACR1 Dababy2 Fakes Prinz Tizio Potente Ao pj lax devin sunsets fakenagol SaDiSTiCNarwhal sugarhigh JabbaTheGriffin sire clod PZZ Kingler ChrisPBacon carry or played, also sry for tilted everyweek when i lose.
thanks GeniusX Ruffles Destro16 BluBirD Alpha1013 help test and prep too, without yours help and some suggess i can't get too much success, especially alpha, i was not hesitated defame your gameskill but during SPL and Teamballo you did very well and reliable between support and play, now i will trust you and hope you finally get in SPL.
thanks my friends both chinese and other country zuzhouwawa Howkings Indulge in dreams Raceding Chaos23333 gostop Plague Spitfire Mok3s musashi109 Kafkafka SeaLife cloud and book Vxltarktimi shuixin Suzukaaa BlazingDark Nakano Nino encorage me when i get mental breakdown, ik i have bad psychological health status but you still play and support with me.
At last thanks CTC recommend and lax (again) blunder pick me in SCL 2024 midseason to support RU, if no yours help i even can't play official teamtour.
I know i not a talent player so every serious tour i put my full focus serious prep, my skill isn't talent, if one player played 6 years they will overcome me, i will stop played like this because when touch it more my relationship and mental health will be worse.
Tomorrow will coming...
i think you're great friend i hope you keep playing if it makes you happy :D
 
The result not i want, 4-5 is a shameful record, tho i suffered some bad luck, i also robbed noname and london beats, that's fair, just now i can't win.
thanks ima Empo Ale Duncan pick me tho not plan me play my main tier, in w3 manager trust me and fit me in ORAS to show my talent and trust me forever.
thanks all mates ACR1 Dababy2 Fakes Prinz Tizio Potente Ao pj lax devin sunsets fakenagol SaDiSTiCNarwhal sugarhigh JabbaTheGriffin sire clod PZZ Kingler ChrisPBacon carry or played, also sry for tilted everyweek when i lose.
thanks GeniusX Ruffles Destro16 BluBirD Alpha1013 help test and prep too, without yours help and some suggess i can't get too much success, especially alpha, i was not hesitated defame your gameskill but during SPL and Teamballo you did very well and reliable between support and play, now i will trust you and hope you finally get in SPL.
thanks my friends both chinese and other country zuzhouwawa Howkings Indulge in dreams Raceding Chaos23333 gostop Plague Spitfire Mok3s musashi109 Kafkafka SeaLife cloud and book Vxltarktimi shuixin Suzukaaa BlazingDark Nakano Nino encorage me when i get mental breakdown, ik i have bad psychological health status but you still play and support with me.
At last thanks CTC recommend and lax (again) blunder pick me in SCL 2024 midseason to support RU, if no yours help i even can't play official teamtour.
I know i not a talent player so every serious tour i put my full focus serious prep, my skill isn't talent, if one player played 6 years they will overcome me, i will stop played like this because when touch it more my relationship and mental health will be worse.
Tomorrow will coming...
youre widely recognized as being good at game friend, slumps happen to everyone and honestly as far as slumps go yours wasnt even that bad??
play less tournaments and look after yourself, dont let this game dictate your self worth!!
+ as a fellow 4-5 record player i feel personally attacked by this post
 
If no yours help i even can't play official teamtour. I know i not a talent player; my skill isn't talent
Don't say this brother, you know it's NOT true and trying to persuade yourself of it will NEVER have a positive effect on your mental health.
i will stop played like this because when touch it more my relationship and mental health will be worse.
Atm, do you have fun playing this game ? This is the most important thing, you cannot be in a good mental state if it's not the case, you're just killing yourself as I did 2 years ago during SPL XV. I know, pressure is hard to manage but you can always work on it; it cannot overhelm you and destroy your own image yourself. You must try to find positive things even if your actual mental state makes everything looking bad; it takes time, but it will help you to feel better.

Btw, how much hours do you put into this game ? When I look at what you wrote, the only answer I can see is " too much ". Take a pokemon break, take time for you, take time to think about what happened, how did you end up here, broken, suffering too much from your losses and from the lack of positive final result. You cannot continue with this toxic mentality / approach, things will only get worse.

Promise yourself to never force yourself to play w/e ladder / tour, if you don't feel it, don't play. Comeback at playing when you're feeling 100% good. Breaking the loop is hard but everyone can do it, I did it, you can do it. If it's too hard, ask for help !

One day, you will start to feel better, you will look at what you accomplish since the beginning, you'll find some positive and everything will stop looking black and tasteless.


One last thing : keep you head up high and be proud. Not everyone got picked for both SCL and SPL.
 
Don't let Smogon's sheet obsessed culture tell you otherwise.
how much hours do you put into this game ? When I look at what you wrote, the only answer I can see is " too much ".
This pretty much sums up my thoughts.

From what I've read recently I feel like you reached the burning point now. After playing that many tours at once, in so many different metagames at such an intense rythm, there always comes a time where your brain cant take it no more.
I never played officials so I'm probably wrong but idt you realize how hard it is to go 4-5 in SPL. Nobody is expected to go 9-0, you just have ups and downs like everyone else, even some of the top dawgs aren't having it together this year.

About the time spent, you'll probably figure out at some point that you dont miss out if you just stop signing up for solos and teams here and there and instead focus on tournaments that you are actually interested in playing/being invested in.
This is very hard to do, but I think you are in a position where you can allow yourself to do that now, because we are ALL aware that you're a talented, skillful and hard-working player. We've been brothers for years so I can tell you I'm reliable enough to know this. Nobody with such talent and results gets forgotten overnight.

我们都会遇到困难,但你已经为这款游戏和你的社区付出了太多,对于比赛结果不如预期,你也无能为力。
没关系兄弟,慢慢来
 
Tough defeat Bigs but, y'all fought till the last moments of week 9 to try and secure top 4.
Even against tough opponents who went in as favourites, like the Sharks and Tyrants, you got decisive wins against the odds to remain in the running.

I'm glad I cheered for you all. Wishing y'all great success in the future! :snorlax:
 
Strange tournament for me in many ways, I was pretty salty I didn’t get a starting spot in SS (and maybe almost went undrafted), Wolves nommed me expecting someone else to upbid and ended up being stuck with a good SS sub whose support in the tier really wasn't needed at all. I tried to be as helpful as possible those first few weeks but even then I couldn't help wanting to have a direct impact on the scoreboard. When crying asked If I would be down to step in in SV my confidence was pretty low and I was mostly expecting a loss into a return to the bench. He ended up passing me teams that I thought were really cool (my w4 and w5 brings) and I played hundreds of games that week hoping I could be up to par. Match up was good and I executed well enough, just about, to win my 1st game and get a run going. All I did was trust my manager's takes on prep and grinded like crazy, it was pretty exhausting especially when I showed up to games and still messed up in one way or another. 4-2 feels pretty generous considering my shortcomings in this tier but I will take it, pretty annoyed that I played badly (enough to get trolled on YouTube...) both times I brought my favorite team of the bunch but what can you do.
All that to say, sometimes these tournaments take you on unexpected journeys and I'm grateful for this season in the end, I'm glad we still had something to fight for this late in the game.
Shoutout to crying for believing in me and carrying me every week and to D4 Repertoire coco choolio in particular for keeping a positive outlook all the way through, felt much needed at many junctures. I had cool interactions with pretty much everybody on the team, hoping to team up with you guys again and take it all the way later down the road. Hopefully I'll get that SS spot next year though, SV made me appreciate it even more lol.
 
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