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Pokémon Champions - releasing April 8, 2026
- Thread starter Codraroll
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My point is that this mon didn't need any "redemption" because already given a busted toolkit. People act like this Pokemon is / was trash in gen 9 as a whole (not just doubles but singles asw) compared to other new Pokemon like Kingambit, Annihlape, or Chien Pao. However, it was given a game-breaking ability in Moody, leading to it getting banned from Gen 9 Ubers. It helps that it has one of the best kits for cheesing the game with Moody with Leech Seed + Flamethrower, that naturally pairs well with its Subtecting antics. And on top of that, it still is an incredibly scary Pokemon under sun because of Chlorophyll + fire-stab for a less cheesy niche (tho far from broken and its lacking bulk is a hinderance compared to other Pokemon).
Granted, people did write the mega off because of the stats, but that ability and Rage Power were a powerful enough combination that it was gaurenteed to be a big threat. I think we saw it perform well in early tournaments in regulation M-A asw. Either way, regardless of format, no redemption was neccessary.
Sir, ubers doesnt exist, and Moody alone was never enough to make a pokemon viable in VGC.
Smeargle having Moody was simply adding insult to injury, not the reason Smeargle was used, and noone sane in mind would have run Glailie or Bibarel in any VGC season.
And even if we want to pretend smogon tiers are real, saying that it "needed no redemption arc cause of moody" may as well praise Bidoof, Diglett and Wynaut as broken pokemon while at it.
Before getting the mega, Scovillain never had any serious viability in real competitive formats.
(And people who ran it for memes used Clorophyl, the actually good ability it has)
Smeargle having Moody was simply adding insult to injury, not the reason Smeargle was used, and noone sane in mind would have run Glailie or Bibarel in any VGC season.
And even if we want to pretend smogon tiers are real, saying that it "needed no redemption arc cause of moody" may as well praise Bidoof, Diglett and Wynaut as broken pokemon while at it.
Before getting the mega, Scovillain never had any serious viability in real competitive formats.
(And people who ran it for memes used Clorophyl, the actually good ability it has)
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Before Mega Scovillain existed, the best success Scovillain had in VGC was using Chlorophyl. Spicy Extract Scovillain with Clear Amulet Koraidon was one game short of day 2’ing a regional, and that’s the best it had ever done until Champions.
You couldn’t really justify running Moody pre-Mega Scovillain.
You couldn’t really justify running Moody pre-Mega Scovillain.
If you hate Smogon so much, why post here? If people talking about the formats this site was built around upsets you enough that you have to bring up why we're dumb for caring about and discussing those formats, maybe just...don't?
Pretty sure they've admitted before they do this on purpose just to troll
That was such a nice ending to the Masters finals. Even 2nd place couldn't help but laugh at it.
:Dragonite-mega:
:dragonite-mega:
MEGA DRAGOATNITE WON, AND WENT STUPID GAME 3!
MEGA DRAGOATNITE WON, AND WENT STUPID GAME 3!
Mega Scovillain is a World Champion too!
New Pokémon movie after 6 years
HOLY SHIT
Rillaboom, Baxcalibur and its Mega and All Z are releasing in REGULATION M-C
New Pokémon movie after 6 years
HOLY SHIT
Rillaboom, Baxcalibur and its Mega and All Z are releasing in REGULATION M-C
Mega Garchomp Z has Levitate
Mega Absol Z has Sharpness
Mega Lucario Z has a signature ability called Aura Guard. It halves the damage taken from contact moves
Only ones revealed so far
Mega Absol Z has Sharpness
Mega Lucario Z has a signature ability called Aura Guard. It halves the damage taken from contact moves
Only ones revealed so far
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Big Charizard hires Baxcalibur to assassinate Dragonite after they became the World Champion.
Anything on Mega Tatsugiri or are they worried about bringing back the TatsuDozo combo into the game? and what of Mega Golisopod?
wonder if they are going to nerf rilla at all, they nerfed incin and grimsnarl so who knows
that lucario ability is so odd for the stat spread they gave it
garchomp z ability is whatever
absol z getting sharpness is cool, its what everyone expected
Wasn’t Mega Lucario Z’s lore talking about increased defensive capabilities when it was initially revealed? I guess they were referring to its future ability.
the one time they decided to be accurate with the dex description, lmao
Not keeping up with everything, where's this being shown off? Wanted to share it elsewhere since Serebii doesn't have it & I couldn't find it on the Japanese site
Garchomp's Mega Stone will continue to be Life Orb until morale improves.
This is probably the best case scenario tbh. It's a glass cannon so double down on damage. Might actually be viable in VGC, too, thanks to being immune to both Fake Out and Prankster.
iirc a Fur Coat clone is lore compliant but still really weird considering the stat spread. Lucario Z's viability is going to live or die by what the best mons in the meta end up being.
Very possible. Losing U-turn and/or Knock Off seem like the most likely outcomes since Incineroar was denied those exact moves.
an official japanese account
also its just grok on twitter hallucinating translation stuff, its been making up voice actors in fire emblem tweets for the past month, google translate has this as the ability name for lucario z instead of "aura break"
So there is nothing special about Z megas in Champions, huh? I expected they'd share some ultra beast/paradox-esque ability to mimic their effects in ZA. Guess not.
Levitate garchomp is a sick joke, though. Someone at GF really hates Flygon. :P
Levitate garchomp is a sick joke, though. Someone at GF really hates Flygon. :P
Incineroar learned Knock Off and U-turn through TMs. However Rillaboom can learn Knock Off naturally through level-up. It may keep that but lose U-turn