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Resource SV ZU Viability Rankings

VR UPDATE!!!

:passimian: NEW to A+
:mismagius: NEW to A-
:vileplume: NEW to B

RISES
:skuntank: A+ to S
:whiscash: A- to A+
:pyroar: B+ to A
:froslass: B+ to A-
:camerupt: B to A-
:drifblim: B to B+
:lycanroc: B to B+
:sandaconda: B to B+
:articuno: B- to B
:exeggutor-alola: B- to B
:indeedee-f: B- to B
:malamar: B- to B
:perrserker: B- to B
:virizion: B- to B
:dodrio: C+ to B-
:dusknoir: C+ to B-
:samurott: C+ to B-
:toedscruel: C+ to B-
:zangoose: C+ to B-
:sceptile: C to B
:swanna: C to B-
:crabominable: C to C+
:crocalor: C to C+
:gurdurr: C to C+
:raichu-alola: C to C+
:tauros: C to C+
:tinkatuff: C to C+
:ursaring: C to C+
:veluza: C to C+
:appletun: UR to B
:pincurchin: UR to B
:greedent: UR to C+
:exeggutor: UR to C
:flareon: UR to C
:poliwrath: UR to C

DROPS
:mesprit: S to A+
:jolteon: A+ to A
:hitmontop: A+ to A-
:magneton: A to A-
:spiritomb: A to A-
:basculin-blue-striped: A- to B+
:brute_bonnet: A- to B+
:sneasel-hisui: A- to B+
:weezing: A- to B+
:abomasnow: B+ to B
:arboliva: B+ to B
:beartic: B+ to B
:muk: B+ to B
:Primeape: B+ to B-
:ditto: B to B-
:lilligant: B- to C+
:probopass: C+ to C

PokemonCurrent RankOutcomeBaitWizBloodAcediegoyuhhilettuceLustfulLiceMJOranBerryBlissey10Shadow079THE_CHUNGLER
MismagiusNEWA-A-BA-A-B+A-BA-A-
PassimianNEWA+A+A+A+AA+A+A+A+A
VileplumeNEWBBC+BBABA+BB
MespritSA+A+A+A+A+SA+SA+S
VenusaurSSSSSSSSSA+A+
HitmontopA+A-AA-A-A-A+A-A+A-A
JolteonA+AAAAA-A+AA+A-A-
SkuntankA+SSSSSSSSA+A+
ToxicroakA+A+A+A+A+A+A+A+A+AA
MagnetonAA-BA-B+AA-A-A-B+B+
SpiritombAA-A-A-AAAA-AA-B+
WhimsicottAAAAAAAAA-A-A-
BasculinA-B+B+B+B+B+B+BB+A-A-
Brute BonnetA-B+A-BA-B+B+A-B+A-B+
ClawitzerA-A-AA-A-AA-AA+A-A-
NaclstackA-A-A-A-AAA-A-A-B+B+
OrthwormA-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-B+B+
RegirockA-A-AB+A-AA-A-A-B+A-
SandslashA-A-B+B+B+A-A-A-A+B+A-
SneaselA-A-A-A-B+A-A-A-A-B+B+
Sneasel-HisuiA-B+B+B+B+A-A-B+A-B+B
VIkavoltA-A-A-A-A-B+A-A-A-B+B+
WeezingA-B+B+B+B+A-A-A-A-B+B
WhiscashA-A+A+AA+A+A-A+BAA
AbomasnowB+BB+BB+BB+BB+BB
ArbolivaB+BB+B-BB+B+BB+B-B-
BearticB+BB+B-B+BB+BB+B-B-
CryogonalB+B+A-B+A-AB+A-B+B+B+
FroslassB+A-A-AA-AB+A-B+B+B+
MukB+BBBBB+B+B+B+BB
PrimeapeB+B-C+C+B-B-B+C+B+B-B-
PyroarB+AA-AAA+AAA-AA-
SableyeB+B+B+B+B+B+B+B+A-B+B+
TyphlosionB+B+A-B+B+A-A-B+B+B+B+
CameruptBA-A-B+A-A-B+A-BA-B+
DipplinBBBBBB-B+BB+BB-
DittoBB-B-B-BBBBB-B-B-
DrifblimBB+A-BBB+B+BB+B+B+
EelektrossBBB+BBA-B+A-BBB
FarigirafBBB+BBBBBBBB
HoundoomBBB+BBBBB+BBB
LycanrocBB+B+B+B+B+B+B+B+B+B+
MabosstiffBBBBBBB+BB+B-B-
MagmortarBBBBBBBBBB+B+
MiniorBBBBB+BBBB+BB
SandacondaBB+BB+B+A-B+B+BB+B+
ArticunoB-BBBBBB-B-B-BB
Exeggutor-AlolaB-BBB+BBBBBB+B+
HattremB-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-
Indeedee-FB-BB-BBBB+(didn't vote)A-B-B-
LilligantB-C+C+C+B-CC+(didn't vote)C+B-C+
MalamarB-BBBBB-B-(didn't vote)B-BB
PerrserkerB-BB+B-B-B-B(didn't vote)BBB
Persian-AlolaB-B-B-B-B-B-B-(didn't vote)B-B+B+
RotomB-B-BBBB-C+(didn't vote)C+BB-
VirizionB-BB+BBB-B-(didn't vote)C+B+B
DodrioC+B-B-B-B-B-B-(didn't vote)B-B-C+
DusknoirC+B-BB-C+C+B-(didn't vote)BB-B-
HippopotasC+C+CCCCC+(didn't vote)BC+C+
HitmonchanC+C+C+C+C+C+B-(didn't vote)C+B-B-
MedichamC+C+CCCURC+(didn't vote)C+C+C+
ProbopassC+CCCCCC+(didn't vote)CC+C+
SamurottC+B-B-B-B-B-B-(didn't vote)B-B-B-
ToedscruelC+B-BB-B-B-B-(didn't vote)B-B-B
TrevenantC+C+C+C+C+C+B-(didn't vote)B-B-C+
ZangooseC+B-B-B-B-B-B-(didn't vote)BB-C+
ClefairyCCCCB-CC+(didn't vote)CC+C
CrabominableCC+BC+C+CC+(didn't vote)BB-C+
CrocalorCC+CCC+CC+(didn't vote)C+C+C+
Dugtrio-AlolaCCCC-CCC+(didn't vote)C+C+C+
GurdurrCC+C+C+C+CC+(didn't vote)C+C+B-
HonchkrowCCC+CCCC(didn't vote)CC+C+
LaprasCCCCCCC(didn't vote)C+CC
LurantisCCCCCC+C(didn't vote)C+CC+
MorpekoCCCCCCC(didn't vote)CCC-
PiloswineCCCCCCC(didn't vote)B-CC
Raichu-AlolaCC+CC+C+BC+(didn't vote)BCC
Rotom-FrostCCC+CCCC(didn't vote)CC+C
SceptileCBBBBB+B+(didn't vote)A-BB
SwalotCCCCCCC(didn't vote)CCUR
SwannaCB-B-B-BB-B-(didn't vote)C+B-B-
TaurosCC+C+C+C+C+C+(didn't vote)CC+C+
TinkatuffCC+C+CB+CB-(didn't vote)B-CC
UrsaringCC+C+CCCB-(didn't vote)B+CC+
VeluzaCC+B-C+B-B-C+(didn't vote)URC+B-
VictreebelCCCCCURC(didn't vote)URCC
Tauros-Paldea-CombatURURURURURURC(didn't vote)CURUR
ExeggutorURCCCCCC(didn't vote)CCC
PoliwrathURCCCCCC(didn't vote)CCC
FlareonURCCURCCC(didn't vote)C+CC
PincurchinURBBB-BBB(didn't vote)B+B-B-
AppletunURBB-B-BB+B(didn't vote)B+B-B-
GrumpigURURURURURURC(didn't vote)CURUR
GreedentURC+CB-C+CC(didn't vote)C+C+C
 
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diego said:
VR UPDATE!!!

:passimian: NEW to A+
:mismagius: NEW to A-
:vileplume: NEW to B

RISES
:skuntank: A+ to S
:whiscash: A- to A+
:pyroar: B+ to A
:froslass: B+ to A-
:camerupt: B to A-
:drifblim: B to B+
:lycanroc: B to B+
:sandaconda: B to B+
:articuno: B- to B
:exeggutor-alola: B- to B
:indeedee-f: B- to B
:malamar: B- to B
:perrserker: B- to B
:virizion: B- to B
:dodrio: C+ to B-
:dusknoir: C+ to B-
:samurott: C+ to B-
:toedscruel: C+ to B-
:zangoose: C+ to B-
:sceptile: C to B
:swanna: C to B-
:crabominable: C to C+
:crocalor: C to C+
:gurdurr: C to C+
:raichu-alola: C to C+
:tauros: C to C+
:tinkatuff: C to C+
:ursaring: C to C+
:veluza: C to C+
:appletun: UR to B
:pincurchin: UR to B
:greedent: UR to C+
:exeggutor: UR to C
:flareon: UR to C
:poliwrath: UR to C

DROPS
:mesprit: S to A+
:jolteon: A+ to A
:hitmontop: A+ to A-
:magneton: A to A-
:spiritomb: A to A-
:basculin-blue-striped: A- to B+
:brute_bonnet: A- to B+
:sneasel-hisui: A- to B+
:weezing: A- to B+
:abomasnow: B+ to B
:arboliva: B+ to B
:beartic: B+ to B
:muk: B+ to B
:Primeape: B+ to B-
:ditto: B to B-
:lilligant: B- to C+
:probopass: C+ to C

PokemonCurrent RankOutcomeBaitWizBloodAcediegoyuhhilettuceLustfulLiceMJOranBerryBlissey10Shadow079THE_CHUNGLER
MismagiusNEWA-A-BA-A-B+A-BA-A-
PassimianNEWA+A+A+A+AA+A+A+A+A
VileplumeNEWBBC+BBABA+BB
MespritSA+A+A+A+A+SA+SA+S
VenusaurSSSSSSSSSA+A+
HitmontopA+A-AA-A-A-A+A-A+A-A
JolteonA+AAAAA-A+AA+A-A-
SkuntankA+SSSSSSSSA+A+
ToxicroakA+A+A+A+A+A+A+A+A+AA
MagnetonAA-BA-B+AA-A-A-B+B+
SpiritombAA-A-A-AAAA-AA-B+
WhimsicottAAAAAAAAA-A-A-
BasculinA-B+B+B+B+B+B+BB+A-A-
Brute BonnetA-B+A-BA-B+B+A-B+A-B+
ClawitzerA-A-AA-A-AA-AA+A-A-
NaclstackA-A-A-A-AAA-A-A-B+B+
OrthwormA-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-B+B+
RegirockA-A-AB+A-AA-A-A-B+A-
SandslashA-A-B+B+B+A-A-A-A+B+A-
SneaselA-A-A-A-B+A-A-A-A-B+B+
Sneasel-HisuiA-B+B+B+B+A-A-B+A-B+B
VIkavoltA-A-A-A-A-B+A-A-A-B+B+
WeezingA-B+B+B+B+A-A-A-A-B+B
WhiscashA-A+A+AA+A+A-A+BAA
AbomasnowB+BB+BB+BB+BB+BB
ArbolivaB+BB+B-BB+B+BB+B-B-
BearticB+BB+B-B+BB+BB+B-B-
CryogonalB+B+A-B+A-AB+A-B+B+B+
FroslassB+A-A-AA-AB+A-B+B+B+
MukB+BBBBB+B+B+B+BB
PrimeapeB+B-C+C+B-B-B+C+B+B-B-
PyroarB+AA-AAA+AAA-AA-
SableyeB+B+B+B+B+B+B+B+A-B+B+
TyphlosionB+B+A-B+B+A-A-B+B+B+B+
CameruptBA-A-B+A-A-B+A-BA-B+
DipplinBBBBBB-B+BB+BB-
DittoBB-B-B-BBBBB-B-B-
DrifblimBB+A-BBB+B+BB+B+B+
EelektrossBBB+BBA-B+A-BBB
FarigirafBBB+BBBBBBBB
HoundoomBBB+BBBBB+BBB
LycanrocBB+B+B+B+B+B+B+B+B+B+
MabosstiffBBBBBBB+BB+B-B-
MagmortarBBBBBBBBBB+B+
MiniorBBBBB+BBBB+BB
SandacondaBB+BB+B+A-B+B+BB+B+
ArticunoB-BBBBBB-B-B-BB
Exeggutor-AlolaB-BBB+BBBBBB+B+
HattremB-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-
Indeedee-FB-BB-BBBB+(didn't vote)A-B-B-
LilligantB-C+C+C+B-CC+(didn't vote)C+B-C+
MalamarB-BBBBB-B-(didn't vote)B-BB
PerrserkerB-BB+B-B-B-B(didn't vote)BBB
Persian-AlolaB-B-B-B-B-B-B-(didn't vote)B-B+B+
RotomB-B-BBBB-C+(didn't vote)C+BB-
VirizionB-BB+BBB-B-(didn't vote)C+B+B
DodrioC+B-B-B-B-B-B-(didn't vote)B-B-C+
DusknoirC+B-BB-C+C+B-(didn't vote)BB-B-
HippopotasC+C+CCCCC+(didn't vote)BC+C+
HitmonchanC+C+C+C+C+C+B-(didn't vote)C+B-B-
MedichamC+C+CCCURC+(didn't vote)C+C+C+
ProbopassC+CCCCCC+(didn't vote)CC+C+
SamurottC+B-B-B-B-B-B-(didn't vote)B-B-B-
ToedscruelC+B-BB-B-B-B-(didn't vote)B-B-B
TrevenantC+C+C+C+C+C+B-(didn't vote)B-B-C+
ZangooseC+B-B-B-B-B-B-(didn't vote)BB-C+
ClefairyCCCCB-CC+(didn't vote)CC+C
CrabominableCC+BC+C+CC+(didn't vote)BB-C+
CrocalorCC+CCC+CC+(didn't vote)C+C+C+
Dugtrio-AlolaCCCC-CCC+(didn't vote)C+C+C+
GurdurrCC+C+C+C+CC+(didn't vote)C+C+B-
HonchkrowCCC+CCCC(didn't vote)CC+C+
LaprasCCCCCCC(didn't vote)C+CC
LurantisCCCCCC+C(didn't vote)C+CC+
MorpekoCCCCCCC(didn't vote)CCC-
PiloswineCCCCCCC(didn't vote)B-CC
Raichu-AlolaCC+CC+C+BC+(didn't vote)BCC
Rotom-FrostCCC+CCCC(didn't vote)CC+C
SceptileCBBBBB+B+(didn't vote)A-BB
SwalotCCCCCCC(didn't vote)CCUR
SwannaCB-B-B-BB-B-(didn't vote)C+B-B-
TaurosCC+C+C+C+C+C+(didn't vote)CC+C+
TinkatuffCC+C+CB+CB-(didn't vote)B-CC
UrsaringCC+C+CCCB-(didn't vote)B+CC+
VeluzaCC+B-C+B-B-C+(didn't vote)URC+B-
VictreebelCCCCCURC(didn't vote)URCC
Tauros-Paldea-CombatURURURURURURC(didn't vote)CURUR
ExeggutorURCCCCCC(didn't vote)CCC
PoliwrathURCCCCCC(didn't vote)CCC
FlareonURCCURCCC(didn't vote)C+CC
PincurchinURBBB-BBB(didn't vote)B+B-B-
AppletunURBB-B-BB+B(didn't vote)B+B-B-
GrumpigURURURURURURC(didn't vote)CURUR
GreedentURC+CB-C+CC(didn't vote)C+C+C
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This is clearly a targeted attack by the vr council for only updating it after pass dropped so my goat pauros would be UR
 
vr noms from a guy who picked this tier up at the start of zupl. explanations are as long as i think they deserve but im happy to argue my case more for any of them if prompted

drops:
:venusaur: venusaur: s to a+
not as consistent as the big 3 (skuntank, passimian, toxicroak) and it faces too much competition to justify a spot in S. it's delightful to have a strong breaker that can outspeed (and kinda switch into) clawitzer and synth off the damage but it gives me a+ vibes; there's plenty of teams where you want to minmax more into the defensive utility of appletun or the speed of whimsicott or better breaking power of alolan exeggutor or abomasnow.

:whiscash: whiscash: a+ to a
great compression but it has one set and you got a dozen other hazard setters out there. regirock sandaconda and sandslash in particular i think are all about on par.

:pyroar: pyroar: a to b+
imo this guy is outright worse than the other fires. no coverage unless you run sunny day jank, no setup, whats this guy doing when it runs into regirock. only big advantage it has is vs froslass but she can tech twave - also houndoom does that too.

:naclstack: naclstack: a- to b-
whats this guy doing up here

:magneton: magneton: a- to b+
no defensive utility and not strong enough as a breaker to slap onto teams. i was going to give examples of better breakers in a- but for some reason there aren't any except clawitzer so look for them in noms below.

:arboliva: arboliva: b to b-
slow idiot baby that should probably go lower if people don't find new ways to build terrain with it.

:dipplin: dipplin: b to c
:primeape: primeape: b- to c
meme set up guys that are honestly no better than regigigas. UR?

raises:
:regirock: regirock: a- to a
:sandslash: sandslash: a- to a
:froslass: froslass: a- to a
:sandaconda: sandaconda: b+ to a
:cryogonal: cryogonal: b+ to a-

all make up the sv zu hazard game and are excellent in different yet similar compositions. none of these guys have bad matchups except sometimes cryo to be honest - regirock seemingly trades 1 for 1 in every game, froslass always gets at least one spike up and cripples something with willo/twave/pain split chip you get the point. much like the mons in a+ and s these guys will never be bad because they can trade into everything they interact with and are fantastic enablers for the (offensively) stronger mons.

:exeggutor-alola: exeggutor-alola: b to a-
:houndoom: houndoom: b to a-
:abomasnow: abomasnow: b to b+
:magmortar: magmortar: b to b+

here are the breakers that are better than magneton that i couldn't mention earlier. exeggutor-alola ohkos basically the whole tier and is only held back by how many things run tera fairy, houndoom's set variety, dual stabs and immunity to opposing fires make it the best of them all, abomasnow is nicher but is mostly just an "i want to use alolan eggy but my team is clawitzer weak" mon and magmortar is typhlosion and pyroar for people who don't like gambling with matchup as much. it doesn't have the same crazy games where it wins on its own but unlike the other fires it has a much easier time focus blasting through regirock or scorching sandsing through camerupt to set up a partner.

:appletun: appletun: b to b+
very notable defensive piece for being the only fire resist to have recovery aside from nfes like naclstack and crocalor. not an a ranker but deserves its flowers (and more experimentation imo).

:sceptile: sceptile: b to b+
terrain is bad but not this bad and even outside dedicated terrain teams i think it's a pretty great offensive piece to pair with scarf indeedee. you guys gotta experiment with tera fighting and ground instead of always going to acrobatics spam btw.

:eelektross: eelektross: b to b+
maybe the best slow pivot glue that offense can ask for. knock off volt switch is guaranteed progress and giga drain makes it extremely fiddly to try and deny it.

:veluza: veluza: c+ to b
the fat recover sets are scarier than c+ indicates.

:honchkrow: honchkrow: c to b
terra beat my ass https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen9zu-965853

:carbink: carbink: ur to b
not just a tr setter but also a solid regirock sidegrade that sets spikes while maintaining the same defensive profile. mostly. the dragon immunity with protect is lowkey really nice for handling specs clawitzer because it lets you get away with seemingly awful water resists like toxicroak or whimsicott. posting the set i used in zupl below but you can tech other moves like stealth rock / rock tomb pretty easily.

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen9zu-963527
https://pokepast.es/7cfcf0db87d0a3c1

Carbink @ Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 252 HP / 36 Def / 216 SpD / 4 Spe
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Spikes
- Moonblast
- Body Press
- Protect
 
Greybaum said:
vr noms from a guy who picked this tier up at the start of zupl. explanations are as long as i think they deserve but im happy to argue my case more for any of them if prompted

drops:
:venusaur: venusaur: s to a+
not as consistent as the big 3 (skuntank, passimian, toxicroak) and it faces too much competition to justify a spot in S. it's delightful to have a strong breaker that can outspeed (and kinda switch into) clawitzer and synth off the damage but it gives me a+ vibes; there's plenty of teams where you want to minmax more into the defensive utility of appletun or the speed of whimsicott or better breaking power of alolan exeggutor or abomasnow.

:whiscash: whiscash: a+ to a
great compression but it has one set and you got a dozen other hazard setters out there. regirock sandaconda and sandslash in particular i think are all about on par.

:pyroar: pyroar: a to b+
imo this guy is outright worse than the other fires. no coverage unless you run sunny day jank, no setup, whats this guy doing when it runs into regirock. only big advantage it has is vs froslass but she can tech twave - also houndoom does that too.

:naclstack: naclstack: a- to b-
whats this guy doing up here

:magneton: magneton: a- to b+
no defensive utility and not strong enough as a breaker to slap onto teams. i was going to give examples of better breakers in a- but for some reason there aren't any except clawitzer so look for them in noms below.

:arboliva: arboliva: b to b-
slow idiot baby that should probably go lower if people don't find new ways to build terrain with it.

:dipplin: dipplin: b to c
:primeape: primeape: b- to c
meme set up guys that are honestly no better than regigigas. UR?

raises:
:regirock: regirock: a- to a
:sandslash: sandslash: a- to a
:froslass: froslass: a- to a
:sandaconda: sandaconda: b+ to a
:cryogonal: cryogonal: b+ to a-

all make up the sv zu hazard game and are excellent in different yet similar compositions. none of these guys have bad matchups except sometimes cryo to be honest - regirock seemingly trades 1 for 1 in every game, froslass always gets at least one spike up and cripples something with willo/twave/pain split chip you get the point. much like the mons in a+ and s these guys will never be bad because they can trade into everything they interact with and are fantastic enablers for the (offensively) stronger mons.

:exeggutor-alola: exeggutor-alola: b to a-
:houndoom: houndoom: b to a-
:abomasnow: abomasnow: b to b+
:magmortar: magmortar: b to b+

here are the breakers that are better than magneton that i couldn't mention earlier. exeggutor-alola ohkos basically the whole tier and is only held back by how many things run tera fairy, houndoom's set variety, dual stabs and immunity to opposing fires make it the best of them all, abomasnow is nicher but is mostly just an "i want to use alolan eggy but my team is clawitzer weak" mon and magmortar is typhlosion and pyroar for people who don't like gambling with matchup as much. it doesn't have the same crazy games where it wins on its own but unlike the other fires it has a much easier time focus blasting through regirock or scorching sandsing through camerupt to set up a partner.

:appletun: appletun: b to b+
very notable defensive piece for being the only fire resist to have recovery aside from nfes like naclstack and crocalor. not an a ranker but deserves its flowers (and more experimentation imo).

:sceptile: sceptile: b to b+
terrain is bad but not this bad and even outside dedicated terrain teams i think it's a pretty great offensive piece to pair with scarf indeedee. you guys gotta experiment with tera fighting and ground instead of always going to acrobatics spam btw.

:eelektross: eelektross: b to b+
maybe the best slow pivot glue that offense can ask for. knock off volt switch is guaranteed progress and giga drain makes it extremely fiddly to try and deny it.

:veluza: veluza: c+ to b
the fat recover sets are scarier than c+ indicates.

:honchkrow: honchkrow: c to b
terra beat my ass https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen9zu-965853

:carbink: carbink: ur to b
not just a tr setter but also a solid regirock sidegrade that sets spikes while maintaining the same defensive profile. mostly. the dragon immunity with protect is lowkey really nice for handling specs clawitzer because it lets you get away with seemingly awful water resists like toxicroak or whimsicott. posting the set i used in zupl below but you can tech other moves like stealth rock / rock tomb pretty easily.

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen9zu-963527
https://pokepast.es/7cfcf0db87d0a3c1

Carbink @ Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 252 HP / 36 Def / 216 SpD / 4 Spe
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Spikes
- Moonblast
- Body Press
- Protect
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explain the reasoning for naclstack dropping to b-, and pyroar does get work up for set up, otherwise(as in aside from Pyroar/naclstack) I agree with this(Pyroar I mostly agree). and if we see this experimentation, prob gon' be an a ranker.
 
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I wanted to do a nom post after ZUPL ended, mainly because this Pokemon and playstyle is criminally underrated and I cannot allow it to continue anymore.

Smeargle

:sv/smeargle: UR to B

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen9zu-966131 - Smeargle gets Rocks + Webs up, and Mortal Spins away Stealth Rocks
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen9zu-961477 - Smeargle gets Webs up and prevents Stealth Rock from being set up in the starting turns
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen9zu-971196 - Smeargle gets Webs + Stealth Rock and Explodes, getting chip and momentum

To avoid confusion, here is the Smeargle set I am going to be referring to throughout this post

Smeargle @ Focus Sash
Ability: Own Tempo
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Explosion
- Mortal Spin
- Sticky Web
- Stealth Rock

I think Smeargle is the best Sticky Web user for dedicated Sticky Web teams. People write off Sticky Webs as just mindless cheese but this strategy is legit and very dangerous. Mega Launcher's Smeargle Sticky Webs teams had a 100% winrate in ZUPL, winning all 3 times the playstyle was brought, including an important semifinals game to secure a tie minimum for Launchers. As a result, I hope after this ZUPL, people start respecting Sticky Webs more and that it is ranked correctly on the VR.

One of the main reason's I think Smeargle is the best Sticky Web setter is that it has the exclusive combination of Stealth Rock + Sticky Webs for ZU. When running Vikavolt, you cannot run Stealth Rocks effectively as a turn setting Stealth Rock is terrible for momentum on your actual offensive threats. Being able to condense the two hazards into one slot is very valuable.

Another good trait for Smeargle is that wide wide move pool gives it options that other setters would kill to have. Mortal Spin gives a way for Smeargle to remove hazards for team mates such as Honchkrow and Typhlosion. It additionally poisons the opposing Pokemon meaning someone like Whiscash cannot just spam hazards and run Smeargle out of PP. Being able to spin on Ghost-types is also amazing, as Steel-types who block Mortal Spin are much less common then Ghost-types. Overall, acting as a deterrant to hazards is a great trait for Sticky Webs to have, as a good majority of team mates dislike Stealth Rocks, and if you want an example of this, check replay 2.

The final point is a funny one, but nonetheless relevant. Vikavolt, Smeargle's other primary contender for Sticky Web setter, is also one of the best Pokemon to run on Sticky Webs as an offensive sweeper through Throat Spray + Agility. If you're running Vikavolt as your webs setter, you cannot run it as a setup sweeper and thus lose a great option to use on webs.

Anyway that's my Smeargle glaze post bye bye.
 
2 months since the HUGE list of noms. I wanna go over again: Rises, then, a few drops, particularly unranks.

:regirock: A- > A

The Cursetalk set is some seriousu shit on steroids, that is. Nice pyroar check with its rock typing and can also run tera fire to block burn, which makes said set more deadly.

:exeggutor-alola: B > B+

The drugs pokemon. Choice specs STAB moves OHKO the entire tier with coverage like flamethrower for Steel-types or giga drain for healing. Also has some other sets with bulky attacker or OTR for example but the choice specs set is too good to pass on. You can run knock but no one really uses that move on this dude, to make progress with hazard stack teams so its great synergy with them.

:houndoom: B > A-

This mon is fuckin' UNDERRATED that is!

He has a really nice stab combination and fire immunity, so its nice if you can make it switch in on stuff like choice item typhlosion. I might as well think its one of the most underrated mons in the metagame atp due to its advantages and things that has going for it (It really only needs like 2 moves LMAO. No sludge bomb needed since that move only hits dachsbun, and fire stab is shredding it already. Doesn't help that dachs is actual ass).

:veluza: C+ > B

don't sleep on lil bro. Fillet away is a dumbass move.

:klawf: UR > C (https://smogtours.psim.us/battle-smogtours-gen9zu-969070)

So... yeah. The main reason I am particularly nomming this pokemon is one thing: Regenerator. Yep, that ability is busted af, and anything with that ability + assault vest means some funny stuff happens.

Additionally, it also has access to knock off, which is nice for hazard stacking teams. AV Klawf is also an excellent answer to one of the top offensive threats in the tier, which is :pyroar:, resisting both the STABs while healing most of the chip taken?

252 SpA Pyroar Fire Blast vs. 240 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Klawf: 54-65 (15.8 - 19%) -- possible 6HKO
252 SpA Pyroar Hyper Voice vs. 240 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Klawf: 45-53 (13.1 - 15.5%) -- possible 7HKO

You can also run SD sets too, but idk why are you using them.

drops... finally

:pyroar: A > A-

so I finally have the problem with this mon is that its just NOT that great anymore. Stuff like whiscash, regirock, naclstack, appletun, etc. It doesn't help that rock is great defensively in the metagame too. The ladder two have reliable recovery too skull emoji. I still think its great in this meta but def not what it is

:naclstack: A- > B+/B

you guys actually want a passive eviolite-reliant mon to be in the same tier as regirock?

:probopass: C > UR

I never see this thing outside of sand... which is like, extremely rare. "In theory, it can work" type of mon, but no one brings it cause its kinda ass.

Ty for reading, hope you guys have a nice day :)
 
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Alr here are my general thoughts, im mostly riffing off of what other people have mentioned cuz who needs original thoughts.

Except for this:
:Eelektross: B -> A-
This is the best spdef pivot in the tier. It might not resist much, but it's got good bulk and pressures switch-ins with Knock/Discharge, has good coverage that foes need to be wary of, and it can easily pivot into a faster offensive threat. What Eelektross provides to a team is invaluable, and I think it's the best at switching into special attackers on offense/BO teams expecting their special wall to die at some point.


:Naclstack: No lower than B+ (I think it's still A- personally, but im arguing against ppl asking for B/B-)
Naclstack is a Regirock sidegrade with Recover and less physical bulk. Yes, the stats are worse. Yes, it's the complete opposite of a Skuntank switch-in while Regi is one of the better ones. But it's just as good as a special wall, and it has Recover and Salt Cure. Those are 2 very broken moves that make it more than worth the shortcomings. Yes, it's passive if you run the set where you rack up salt cure chip with protect. Nothing is stopping you from running Body Press > Protect, and Iron Defense > SR is there for you too. Also, name another Fire resist with longevity. And don't say Appletun because unfortunately you got Taunted by Pyroar on the recover turn and are 1 burn away from body press doing nothing. Yes, Nacl still gets taunted, but it resists both of Pyroar's STABs and is burn immune.

Surprisingly, Naclstack didn't match up into offensive fire types during ZUPL, so SK's overprep vs Drifblim is the only replay I have of a Nacl clicking Recover and doing stuff with its longevity: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen9zu-960654


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:regirock: regirock: a- to a
:sandslash: sandslash: a- to a
:froslass: froslass: a- to a
:sandaconda: sandaconda: b+ to a
:cryogonal: cryogonal: b+ to a-
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Greybaum said:
:appletun: appletun: b to b+
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Agree with all these. I might want Cryo in A. Maybe Conda in A- because longevity isn't enough to put it on par with Sandslash in my opinion.


:Smeargle: UR -> B- at most; :Carbink: UR -> C+ at most (i think both are 1 tier lower)
If ZU had a C- rank I think these 2 mons would have solidly sat in it, but we don't. I think it's reasonable for them to be on the VR, but this is as high as I would put both of them because I don't think they're explored enough in the meta to get ranked higher.

I can't support Smeargle in B because I don't think that webs have B-tier consistency (and I think Vika's viability is separate from webs to be clear). At the end of the day, we know what Smeargle is doing on preview. Yes, i did see it not being clicked into an anti lead in the replays, but its not as effective if it can't do that consistently. On top of that, there is a lot of bootspam in the meta. A good webs team will obviously be ready for boots mons, but I don't think a B-tier playstyle should have something this common to overcome in the first place. I've also never used Smeargle webs to be fair.

As for Carbink, I think it deserves at least C based on Trick Room alone, and I think it's movepool is heavily underexplored. You do have to run some insane EVs to actually take advantage of this (iirc), but you can tech ground moves or Psychic for Skuntank or Toxicroak, since you're not weak to their common attacks. However, I don't want it higher than C+ because its movepool is so underexplored. Its stats are also at war with it; Naclstack and Regirock have other buttons that do damage besides just Body Press, and Carbink has 50 in both offensive stats. Don't really see why you want it over Regi/Nacl/Whiscash in 95% of cases but I'm all for ranking a Regirock sidegrade :torkoal: (not really torkoal tho lol i know my place with that one)


Takes in Tuthur's personal VR I wanted to talk about:
:Lapras: C -> up
I'm defaulting like B-, I can't tell you what it does, but I know you don't have something ready to switch into it. A- is crazy, I see the vision but i do not share it

:Swanna: B- -> B
Tuthur put B+, I think that's too high. I'm too scared of the stats to actually use this mon tho. I shouldn't be.


Here's how I rank the fire types.
1. :Pyroar: A+
2. :Typhlosion: A-/B+
3. :Houndoom: B+
4. :Magmortar: B/B+

Pyroar is #1 because it can get into position and either wisp the incoming check, start to chip it, and Taunt it on the recover turn. It's the closest thing to Charizard that we have.

I put Typhlosion at #2 because, even though it needs more support and doesn't have a 2nd STAB to whittle down checks with, it has Tera Fire Eruption and Modest Focus Blast upside. Typhlosion should be the damage pick, and is the most likely to KO a fire resist with fire attacks.

I put Houndoom at #3 because I don't see why you would use it over the other 2. They don't need setup, but I feel like Houndoom does. On paper it should do the exact same things as Pyroar and Typh, but the 80BP Stab Dark Pulse feels so much worse than a 90bp Stab Hyper Voice to me. Its movepool is a little underexplored tho, I love throwing random sucker punch on mons and I've never seen this thing click Taunt.

And I put Magmortar last because its speed is slower than Toxicroak, which makes it lose some of the revenge killing power that the other fires possess. It's a good breaker and it has good tools to get through walls, like Focus Blast and (significantly) Knock for Eel. However, I've never looked at a team and felt like I needed to run Magmortar to improve my Eel MU.


I'm also in the mood to UR some stuff.
:Medicham: C+ -> UR
Medicham hasn't been viable since the Tera Blast ban, since it has 0 coverage for Mesprit + Ghost/Darks. I think this mon requires too much support compared to other fightings, and ZHB isn't even that good of an upside since the only poison with recovery is also Gunk Shot neutral.

:Tinkatuff: C+ -> UR
Skuntank Taunts you. Now what? I guess you force a knock, but this mon doesn't have the physdef stats it wants to have to wall our fightings. Sandslash is better.

:Lilligant: C+ -> UR :Probopass: C -> UR | :Hippopotas: C+ -> C
Eh. I think sand is fringe and I don't think Abusers 3 and 4 need to be on the VR. Lilligant getting Weather Ball coverage... is more than Medicham I suppose. I think that the sand spot on the VR should go to Hippopotas, and if you don't think so I'm fine URing all 3. Idk, sand uses offensive types that ZU doesn't prep for, but like, just run Lycanroc on its own? Run semi-sand? That or we need to work on our full trick room representation.

:Victreebel: C -> UR
Why is this thing still ranked? I don't know what its niche is, esp next to Venusaur, Skuntank, and even the unimpressive Vileplume. Honestly, putting Vileplume in C is based.

:Hitmonchan: :Gurdurr: C+ -> C
I squinted and I think they're similar. I guess they both deserve a spot on the VR since they do have unique niches, but they're only justifiable on teams where you can't run Hitmontop for some reason imo. They have *some* extra utility compared to top, but they aren't immediately as offensively threatening which is more valuable in the tier. They can be UR but I see why you would use them, and they're probably some of the better C-tier removal options.
 
All right, now that ZUPL is finally over and stats are out i want to take a look to our fresh SVZU trends.

RISES
:mesprit: Back to S where it belongs
It's true that it's gotten worse with Skun dropping, but in truth it's more like it went from S+ to S, even now it's the most used mon in ZU by far and was brought in 1 out of 2 teams this zupl, yet still closing the tour with a positive WR. Its flexibility is unmatched in the whole tier and some sets like the paraspam annoyers don't even dread Skuntank that much.

:whimsicott: A to A+
The 2 main poison types of the tier not resisting fairy is something Whimsicott greatly appreciates, also because their presence worsened the usage of pure poisons like Muk. Sunny Day progressively becoming the main Venu set also means one less check and steels have been on the sidelines lately, while fire types have shown to be very unreliable answers as seen with the poor Pyroars losing the 1v1 vs terad Whimsicotts. The most reliable checks left are neutral generic special walls like Cryogonal, making the setup for a Whimsi sweep quite an easy task.
ZUPL stats are also amazing with a 17% playrate and 62% wr to further prove the point.

:houndoom: B to B+
It was nommed already so i'm not going to say much here, tera + flash fire is always good and the latest tech of np flame charge has been working well, it's still a bit of a cheesy mon so i wouldn't go to A yet but it's been undeniably good and even if the sample size isn't that big it has one of the highest WRs of this ZUPL.

:smeargle: UR to C/C+
Another nom i agree with, maybe it's not B worthy but Smeargle can't be in UR.

:electivire: UR to C
I haven't seen anyone else running it so it may be just a me thing, but i think Electivire is kinda slept on. It's one of the few mons that can ohko Skuntank while being faster than it, it has a great coverage with access to supercell slam, eq, koff, trailblaze, elemental punches, low kick and much more, i've tried aoa and bulk up sets and they both worked just fine.

DROPS
:jolteon: A to A-
Jolteon was being discussed in surveys as a meta threat not too long ago, but recent trends are making his life kinda hard, ground types are on the rise and there's a bunch of popular grasses too, and tera blast isn't here anymore to help bringing them down, Passimian's return surely doesn't help and Skuntank can just nuke it with SP after a bit of chip (Or even with close to no chip: 252 Atk Black Glasses Tera Dark Skuntank Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Jolteon: 220-260 (81.1 - 95.9%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock).
All of this was shown clearly in its modest usage(15%) and bad win rate(35%) during ZUPL VII.

:mismagius: A- to B+/B
I don't have much to say here, i just think Mismagius isn't that good, it suffers vs common meta staples like Skunk and Pyroar and it doesn't really fare too well in anything it does. You can run a bulkier set with wow but at that point you're better off using Froslass, you can run scarf but trick is really your only selling point against other options that have more firing power, coverage and pivot moves, setup sets are probably the best but even those are just decent at best.
6 wins and 12 losses in ZUPL.

:vileplume: B to B-
Strength Sap and Stun Spore alone are hardly ever enough of a reason to justify bringing Vileplume over Venusaur, even more when you consider how much is weighting on the other side of the scale between set variety, coverage, koff, stats ecc. This thing was brought a whole 3 times during the entirety of ZUPL VIII (all 3 in the same week and then never again lol) ending with less usage than Bastiodon and Regigigas.

:victreebel: C to UR
Take all i've said for Vileplume compared to Venusaur and translate it into Victreebel compared to Vileplume, this is the worse version of the worse version of another Pokémon, the only merit it has is creating the legendary liquid ooze gif.
 
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Tizio said:
All right, now that ZUPL is finally over and stats are out i want to take a look to our fresh SVZU trends.

RISES
:mesprit: Back to S where it belongs
It's true that it's gotten worse with Skun dropping, but in truth it's more like it went from S+ to S, even now it's the most used mon in ZU by far and was brought in 1 out of 2 teams this zupl, yet still closing the tour with a positive WR. Its flexibility is unmatched in the whole tier and some sets like the paraspam annoyers don't even dread Skuntank that much.

:whimsicott: A to A+
The 2 main poison types of the tier not resisting fairy is something Whimsicott greatly appreciates, also because their presence worsened the usage of pure poisons like Muk. Sunny Day progressively becoming the main Venu set also means one less check and steels have been on the sidelines lately, while fire types have shown to be very unreliable answers as seen with the poor Pyroars losing the 1v1 vs terad Whimsicotts. The most reliable checks left are neutral generic special walls like Cryogonal, making the setup for a Whimsi sweep quite an easy task.
ZUPL stats are also amazing with a 17% playrate and 62% wr to further prove the point.

:houndoom: B to B+
It was nommed already so i'm not going to say much here, tera + flash fire is always good and the latest tech of np flame charge has been working well, it's still a bit of a cheesy mon so i wouldn't go to A yet but it's been undeniably good and even if the sample size isn't that big it has one of the highest WRs of this ZUPL.

:smeargle: UR to C/C+
Another nom i agree with, maybe it's not B worthy but Smeargle can't be in UR.

:electivire: UR to C
I haven't seen anyone else running it so it may be just a me thing, but i think Electivire is kinda slept on. It's one of the few mons that can ohko Skuntank while being faster than it, it has a great coverage with access to supercell slam, eq, koff, trailblaze, elemental punches, low kick and much more, i've tried aoa and bulk up sets and they both worked just fine.

DROPS
:jolteon: A to A-
Jolteon was being discussed in surveys as a meta threat not too long ago, but recent trends are making his life kinda hard, ground types are on the rise and there's a bunch of popular grasses too, and tera blast isn't here anymore to help bringing them down, Passimian's return surely doesn't help and Skuntank can just nuke it with SP after a bit of chip (Or even with close to no chip: 252 Atk Black Glasses Tera Dark Skuntank Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Jolteon: 220-260 (81.1 - 95.9%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock).
All of this was shown clearly in its modest usage(15%) and bad win rate(35%) during ZUPL VII.

:mismagius: A- to B+/B
I don't have much to say here, i just think Mismagius isn't that good, it suffers vs common meta staples like Skunk and Pyroar and it doesn't really fare too well in anything it does. You can run a bulkier set with wow but at that point you're better off using Froslass, you can run scarf but trick is really your only selling point against other options that have more firing power, coverage and pivot moves, setup sets are probably the best but even those are just decent at best.
6 wins and 12 losses in ZUPL.

:vileplume: B to B-
Strength Sap and Stun Spore alone are hardly ever enough of a reason to justify bringing Vileplume over Venusaur, even more when you consider how much is weighting on the other side of the scale between set variety, coverage, koff, stats ecc. This thing was brought a whole 3 times during the entirety of ZUPL VIII (all 3 in the same week and then never again lol) ending with less usage than Bastiodon and Regigigas.

:victreebel: C to UR
Take all i've said for Vileplume compared to Venusaur and translate it into Victreebel compared to Vileplume, this is the worse version of the worse version of another Pokémon, the only merit it has is creating the legendary liquid ooze gif.
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electivire replay please?
edit:never mind found one:https://psim.us/r/smogtours-gen9zu-970838
and another up to date one:https://psim.us/r/gen9zu-2692417222 weird, since it's not a choice set volt switch was great momentum.
if you wanna add any more by editing your post please do
now for true productivity:https://psim.us/r/gen9zu-2699587463
:komala: ur to c.
I don't gotta say much, I just think that;considering all it could do here;komala needs to be ranked. it's a consistent rapid spinner(quite consistent I might add), as it spun three times into mesprit's rocks, even killing mesprit with the third spin. knock off got rid of eelektross's av so that was a big help. play rough did 74% to virizion(and killed it) and due to the consistent spinning, it was fast enough to outspeed sneasel-hisui, even if it couldn't take sneasel-hisui out and ultimately died to throat chop.
:Clefairy: c to b-/b
you can see plznostep's nom for it earlier in the thread. and Charizard is back. that's why i'm making this nom.
:Appletun: c to b+. you can see earlier posts in the thread for more details. in particular page six. these can elaborate. I have no idea how It dropped
 
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VR UPDATE!!!

:ninetales-alola: NEW to A+
:porygon2: NEW to A+
:amoonguss: NEW to A
:charizard: NEW to A
:hitmonlee: NEW to A
:qwilfish: NEW to A
:snorlax: NEW to A
:floatzel: NEW to A-
:galvantula: NEW to A-
:lanturn: NEW to A-
:coalossal: NEW to B+

RISES
:beartic: B to B+
:eelektross: B to B+
:swanna: B- to B
:raichu-alola: C+ to B-
:veluza: C+ to B-
:lapras: C to B-
:honchkrow: C to C+
:lurantis: C to C+

DROPS
:skuntank: S to A+
:venusaur: S to A+
:whiscash: A+ to A-
:jolteon: A to A-
:whimsicott: A to A-
:pyroar: A to B+
:froslass: A- to B+
:mismagius: A- to B+
:magneton: A- to B+
:naclstack: A- to B+
:orthworm: A- to B+
:sneasel: A- to B+
:sneasel-hisui: B+ to B
:typhlosion: B+ to B
:weezing: B+ to B
:basculin-blue-striped: B+ to BASCULIN TIER
:arboliva: B to B-
:articuno: B to B-
:dipplin: B to B-
:farigiraf: B to B-
:vileplume: B to C+
:abomasnow: B to C
:appletun: B to C
:primeape: B- to C+
:rotom: B- to C+
:samurott: B- to C+
:hattrem: B- to C
:crabominable: C+ to C
:hippopotas: C+ to C
:hitmonchan: C+ to C
:gurdurr: C+ to C
:medicham: C+ to C
:trevenant: C+ to C
:ursaring: C+ to C
:exeggutor: C to UR
:flareon: C to UR
:victreebel: C to UR

PokemonCurrent RankOutcomeBaitWizBloodAcediegoyuhhilettuceLustfulLiceMJOranBerryBlissey10playabeavsplznostepShadow079THE_CHUNGLER
AmoongussNEWAA(abstain)AA-A+ASAA-A-A-
CharizardNEWAA-(abstain)A+AAAA-A+AAA
CoalossalNEWB+A(abstain)B+A-A-B+A-B+B+B+B+
FloatzelNEWA-A-(abstain)A-A-B+A-B+A-A-A-A-
GalvantulaNEWA-A(abstain)B+A-A-A-A-A-B+A-B+
HitmonleeNEWAA(abstain)A+AA+AA+AA+AA-
LanturnNEWA-A-(abstain)A-B+A-A-AA-AA-A-
Ninetales-AlolaNEWA+S(abstain)SA+SA+SSSAAAA
Porygon2NEWA+S(abstain)A+A+SA+SSA+A-A+
QwilfishNEWAA(abstain)A-A-A+A+A+A-A-AA
SnorlaxNEWAA(abstain)BAAAAAAAA
SkuntankSA+S(abstain)SSSA+A+A+SAA
VenusaurSA+A+(abstain)A+A+A+A+A+A+A+AA-
MespritA+A+A+(abstain)SA+A+A+A+A+A+A+A+
PassimianA+A+A+(abstain)A+A+A+A+A+ASA+A
ToxicroakA+A+A+(abstain)A+A+A+A+A+ASAA
WhiscashA+A-A-(abstain)AA-A-A-B+B+A-A-A-
JolteonAA-A-(abstain)A-A-AB+AA-BB+B+
PyroarAB+B(abstain)A-B+AB-A-BB-B+B+
WhimsicottAA-A-(abstain)AAA-A-A-A-B+B+B+
CameruptA-A-A-(abstain)AB+B+B+B+B+AA-A-
ClawitzerA-A-A(abstain)A-A-A-A-A-A-B+A-B+
FroslassA-B+B(abstain)BB+B+B+BB+A-B+B+
HitmontopA-A-A-(abstain)A-B+A-B+A-A-B+A-A-
MismagiusA-B+B(abstain)B+B+B+B+B+B+B+B+B+
MagnetonA-B+B(abstain)B+A-B+A-B+B+A-B+B
NaclstackA-B+B+(abstain)A-B+B+B+A-B+B+B+B+
OrthwormA-B+B+(abstain)B+B+B+B+B+B+B+BB
RegirockA-A-A-(abstain)A-B+AAAAAB+A-
SandslashA-A-A-(abstain)A-A-AAAA-B+B+A-
SneaselA-B+B+(abstain)B+A-B+B+B+B+B+BB
SpiritombA-A-A-(abstain)AA-A-A-A-AB+A-B+
VikavoltA-A-B+(abstain)A-B+B+B+B+A-A-A-A-
BasculinB+BASCULIN TIERC(abstain)URURBURBBURBB
Brute BonnetB+B+B+(abstain)B+B+B+B+B+B+BB+B
CryogonalB+B+B+(abstain)A-A-B+A-B+B+AB+B+
DrifblimB+B+B+(abstain)B+BBB+BB+B+B+B+
LycanrocB+B+B+(abstain)B+B+B+B+B+B+B+BB
SableyeB+B+B+(abstain)A-B+A-B+A-A-A-B+B+
SandacondaB+B+B+(abstain)A-A-B+B+BB+AB+B+
Sneasel-HisuiB+BC+(abstain)B+B+B+BA-B+CBB
TyphlosionB+BB(abstain)BBBBBBBBB
WeezingB+BB(abstain)BB+B+B+B+BBBB-
AbomasnowBCC(abstain)URURCURCB-CB-B-
AppletunBCC(abstain)URURCURC+CURCC
ArbolivaBB-B(abstain)B+B-B-B-B-B-BB-B-
ArticunoBB-B(abstain)BB-C+C+B-BBB-B-
BearticBB+B+(abstain)A-A-B+B+B+B+B+B+B
DipplinBB-B-(abstain)B-C+BC+BBB-B-B-
EelektrossBB+B(abstain)A-A-B+A-BA-AB+B+
Exeggutor-AlolaBBB-(abstain)BBBBB+BBBB
FarigirafBB-C+(abstain)BB-BB+B+B-B-B-B-
HoundoomBBB(abstain)BB+BBBB+B+BB
Indeedee-FBBB+(abstain)BBB+A-A+B-BB-B-
MabosstiffBBB(abstain)BBBBBBBB-B-
MagmortarBBB(abstain)BB+BBBB+A-BB
MalamarBBB(abstain)BBBB-BB+BBB
MiniorBBB(abstain)B+BBB+B+B+B+BB
MukBBB-(abstain)BBBBBBB-BB
PerrserkerBBB+(abstain)C+BBC+B+BB+B-B-
PincurchinBBB(abstain)BBBB+A+B-B-B+B+
SceptileBBB+(abstain)B+BBB+B+BBBB
VileplumeBC+C(abstain)CC+BURBCURB-B-
VirizionBBB-(abstain)BB-BB-B-B+B-BB
DittoB-B-B(abstain)BB-BB-B-B-B-B-C+
DodrioB-B-B-(abstain)BB-B-B-BBBB-C+
DusknoirB-B-B-(abstain)B-B-B-B-B-BBB-B-
HattremB-CC(abstain)C+CCC+B-CC+CC
Persian-AlolaB-B-B-(abstain)B-B-B-B-B-BB-BB
PrimeapeB-C+C(abstain)C+C+C+CB-C+CB-C+
RotomB-C+B-(abstain)C+CC+C+C+CURBC+
SamurottB-C+C(abstain)B-C+C+C+B-B-B-B-C+
ToedscruelB-B-B-(abstain)BC+C+BB-BBB-B-
ZangooseB-B-B-(abstain)B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-C+
SwannaB-BB(abstain)BBC+C+CB-BBB
CrabominableC+CC(abstain)CCC+CB-CCC+C+
CrocalorC+C+C+(abstain)C+CC+CC+CCC+C+
HippopotasC+CC(abstain)CCCC+C+CURCC
HitmonchanC+CUR(abstain)CCCCCURURC+C+
GreedentC+C+UR(abstain)C+CC+C+C+CC+C+C+
GurdurrC+CC(abstain)C+CB-CB-CC+CC
LilligantC+C+C(abstain)C+C+B-C+B-C+C+B+B+
MedichamC+CUR(abstain)URURCCCCURC+C+
Raichu-AlolaC+B-C+(abstain)B-BB-BB+C+CB+B+
TaurosC+C+C+(abstain)C+C+C+C+C+B-B-B-C+
TinkatuffC+C+C(abstain)BC+C+BB-C+C+B-C+
TrevenantC+CC(abstain)CURCCB-CURB-C+
UrsaringC+CUR(abstain)URCB-CBCURB-C+
VeluzaC+B-C+(abstain)B-B-B-BC+B-B-BB-
ClefairyCCC(abstain)C+CCURCURURB-C+
Dugtrio-AlolaCCC(abstain)CC+CC+C+CURCC
ExeggutorCURUR(abstain)URURURURURURURURUR
FlareonCURUR(abstain)URURURURCURURURUR
HonchkrowCC+C+(abstain)C+C+C+CC+C+BC+C
LaprasCB-C(abstain)B-B-BB-B-B-BC+C+
LurantisCC+C(abstain)CCC+C+C+CC+C+C+
MorpekoCCUR(abstain)URCCCCCURCC
PiloswineCCC(abstain)CCCCC+CCCC
PoliwrathCCUR(abstain)CURCCCCCCC
ProbopassCCC(abstain)CCCCCCURCC
Rotom-FrostCCC(abstain)CURCC+CC+CCC
SwalotCCC(abstain)CURCCCCURURUR
VictreebelCURUR(abstain)URURURURCURURCUR

5 ppl voted B, 1 person voted C, 4 ppl voted UR. there's no way of manipulating this data (average, median ecc) that would result in a fair and representative result, so after hearing multiple takes from a lot of different ppl (thanks to everyone on smogon cord who took part in the discussion) giving this mon its own tier kinda seemed the best solution to me. beware this is a temporary placement: i want to hear opinions from you all regarding this mon's placement, so that we can definitely settle in somewhere in the next update.
 
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