This thing should lose Wish and see no other changes imo. I think its role isn't really problematic, it's good role compression that checks a unique spread of mons and helps teams not be pigeonholed into very specific defensive cores. Physdef with boots is a good check to Gerson and Undyne, and Roaring knight in the midgame and can help scout choice band Flowery, while also being the only true wall to Lancer. AV lets you not immediately lose a mon every turn to specs/life orb download queen, and is very solid into the other queen sets too while giving you a safety net against Shadow Mantle and Mettatonmegay. I think nerfing it into unviability (like removing knock or uturn) would be very bad, since offense teams would be basically required to run a Winglade or Jackenstein just to not autolose to the mons that Physdef ambyu checks for them.![]()
I thought I'd post this here because I'm curious on what the general consensus on Ambyu-Lance is.
also yeah, i think nerfing Undying Spirit to be more like the modern figy berry would be a good change. Revenge killing her from 75 with the few mons that aren't vulnerable to a +2 aqua jet is pretty restrictive
E2: Nerf Undyne tho, even with the minor breaking power nerf she is still just way too strong and bulky along with survivability from Undying Spirit. Very difficult to play around without specifically Sacred Sword* Floradinn.
| Sweet, Cap'n, K_K: +Electric Terrain Endogeny: +Will-O-Wisp Parsnik: +Sunny Day Sheary: +Grassy Glide Omega Justice: +10 BP Sans: +Chilly Reception Virovirokun: +Recover Bedazzling Blade: -Contact Tenna: +Electro Shot, +Signal Beam, Battle Sprite is now GROOVY! Zapper: +Mach Punch White Cloak: +20 Sp. Atk, -10 Def Floradinn: +Stun Spore Miss Mizzle: +Mirror Coat Yellow: +70 BP Special Steel Type Bullet Move. Name: Steely Shot Toriel: +Heal Bell Pyrope: +Coil, +15 HP Ambyu-Lance: -Wish Astigmatism: +Strong Jaw, -Minds Eye, +Swords Dance Vulkin: +Thunderbolt, +Thunder Flowey: +Sucker Punch Swatch: +Moonblast Aqua: +False Swipe Undying Spirit: Effect Update: Once per battle, if this Pokemon drops to 1/4 of its max HP or less, it will restore 1/3 of its max HP. Seth: +Hold Back Spamton: +Autotomize, BIG SHOT 150 BP -> 165 BP Jevil: -Moonblast Roaring Knight: Cosmetic Form: Gaboswampert's Halloween Advent Roaring Knight (Roaring Knight-Advent) Amalgamation: Effect Update: Upon entering the field, copy a random opponent's current ability and gain the Amalgamation Effect: Constantly attempt to copy the ability of the last Pokemon to faint in battle. Resets once this Pokemon leaves the field. Demoralize: Effect Update: Upon entering the field, this Pokemon lowers the Special Attack of all opponents by one stage. Pokemon with Rattled gain +1 Speed in addition to this effect, Pokemon with Inner Focus are immune. Oh, and Seth and Aqua seem to have a new move in their arsenal... |
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| Rank | Pokemon | Use | Usage % | Win % |
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| 1 | Winglade | 53 | 44.92% | 52.83% |
| 2 | Queen-Delta | 42 | 35.59% | 54.76% |
| 3 | Jevil | 37 | 31.36% | 56.76% |
| 4 | Flowery | 33 | 27.97% | 66.67% |
| 5 | Undyne | 24 | 20.34% | 70.83% |
| 6 | Floradinn | 23 | 19.49% | 47.83% |
| 7 | Toriel | 21 | 17.80% | 61.90% |
| 8 | Asgore | 20 | 16.95% | 55.00% |
| 9 | Royal Guard 1 | 19 | 16.10% | 63.16% |
| 10 | Susie | 18 | 15.25% | 66.67% |
| 11 | Gerson | 16 | 13.56% | 43.75% |
| 11 | Rabbick | 16 | 13.56% | 31.25% |
| 13 | Shadow Mantle | 15 | 12.71% | 66.67% |
| 13 | Glyde | 15 | 12.71% | 33.33% |
| 15 | Ambyu-Lance | 14 | 11.86% | 28.57% |
| 16 | Mettaton | 13 | 11.02% | 53.85% |
| 16 | Lanino | 13 | 11.02% | 53.85% |
| 16 | Titan Spawn | 13 | 11.02% | 23.08% |
| 19 | Mr. Sunshine | 12 | 10.17% | 58.33% |
| 20 | Spamton | 11 | 9.32% | 9.09% |
| 21 | Alphys | 10 | 8.47% | 60.00% |
| 22 | Roaring Knight | 9 | 7.63% | 77.78% |
| 22 | Berdly | 9 | 7.63% | 44.44% |
| 22 | Elnina | 9 | 7.63% | 44.44% |
| 22 | Pink | 9 | 7.63% | 33.33% |
| 22 | Ralsei | 9 | 7.63% | 33.33% |
| 27 | Rouxls Kaard | 8 | 6.78% | 75.00% |
| 27 | Balthizard | 8 | 6.78% | 62.50% |
| 27 | Kawkaw | 8 | 6.78% | 62.50% |
| 27 | Parsnik | 8 | 6.78% | 62.50% |
| 27 | Wicabel | 8 | 6.78% | 62.50% |
| 27 | Chaos King | 8 | 6.78% | 37.50% |
| 27 | Miss Mizzle | 8 | 6.78% | 25.00% |
| 34 | Muffet | 7 | 5.93% | 57.14% |
| 34 | Watercooler | 7 | 5.93% | 28.57% |
| 36 | Blue | 6 | 5.08% | 50.00% |
| 36 | Madjick | 6 | 5.08% | 50.00% |
| 36 | Aaron | 6 | 5.08% | 33.33% |
| 36 | Flowey | 6 | 5.08% | 33.33% |
| 36 | Head Hathy | 6 | 5.08% | 16.67% |
| 41 | Jackenstein | 5 | 4.24% | 60.00% |
| 41 | Werewerewire | 5 | 4.24% | 60.00% |
| 41 | Papyrus | 5 | 4.24% | 40.00% |
| 41 | Greater Dog | 5 | 4.24% | 40.00% |
| 41 | Abberant | 5 | 4.24% | 20.00% |
| 46 | Endogeny | 4 | 3.39% | 100.00% |
| 46 | Moldbygg | 4 | 3.39% | 75.00% |
| 46 | Temmie | 4 | 3.39% | 75.00% |
| 46 | Noelle | 4 | 3.39% | 50.00% |
| 46 | Ribbick | 4 | 3.39% | 50.00% |
| 46 | Seth | 4 | 3.39% | 50.00% |
| 46 | Poppup | 4 | 3.39% | 50.00% |
| 46 | Aqua | 4 | 3.39% | 0.00% |
| 54 | Mad Dummy | 3 | 2.54% | 66.67% |
| 54 | Royal Guard 2 | 3 | 2.54% | 66.67% |
| 54 | Thrash Machine-Flame | 3 | 2.54% | 66.67% |
| 54 | Mauswheel | 3 | 2.54% | 33.33% |
| 54 | Rudinn Ranger | 3 | 2.54% | 33.33% |
| 54 | Bibliox | 3 | 2.54% | 33.33% |
| 54 | Tasque Manager | 3 | 2.54% | 33.33% |
| 54 | Bloxer | 3 | 2.54% | 33.33% |
| 54 | Cat Mike | 3 | 2.54% | 33.33% |
| 54 | Astigmatism | 3 | 2.54% | 33.33% |
| 54 | Sound of Justice | 3 | 2.54% | 33.33% |
| 54 | Kris | 3 | 2.54% | 33.33% |
| 66 | Lancer | 2 | 1.69% | 100.00% |
| 66 | Thrash Machine-Duck | 2 | 1.69% | 50.00% |
| 66 | Swatch | 2 | 1.69% | 50.00% |
| 66 | Terakota | 2 | 1.69% | 50.00% |
| 66 | Shi | 2 | 1.69% | 0.00% |
| 66 | Reaper Bird | 2 | 1.69% | 0.00% |
| 72 | Doggo | 1 | 0.85% | 100.00% |
| 72 | Starwalker | 1 | 0.85% | 100.00% |
| 72 | Onionsan | 1 | 0.85% | 100.00% |
| 72 | Thrash Machine | 1 | 0.85% | 100.00% |
| 72 | Vulkin | 1 | 0.85% | 0.00% |
| 72 | Cap'n | 1 | 0.85% | 0.00% |
| 72 | Gyftrot | 1 | 0.85% | 0.00% |
| 72 | K. Round | 1 | 0.85% | 0.00% |
| 72 | Ice Wolf | 1 | 0.85% | 0.00% |
| 72 | Green | 1 | 0.85% | 0.00% |
| 72 | Pipis | 1 | 0.85% | 0.00% |
| 72 | Organikk | 1 | 0.85% | 0.00% |
| 72 | Woshua | 1 | 0.85% | 0.00% |
| 72 | Trashy | 1 | 0.85% | 0.00% |
| 72 | Leafling | 1 | 0.85% | 0.00% |
| 72 | Final Froggit | 1 | 0.85% | 0.00% |
| 72 | Whimsalot | 1 | 0.85% | 0.00% |
| 72 | Hathy | 1 | 0.85% | 0.00% |
| 72 | Jerry | 1 | 0.85% | 0.00% |
| 72 | Orange | 1 | 0.85% | 0.00% |